Polish thieves caught in Haarlem.

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May 23, 10, 17:49 #1

Two Polish men arrested.

Two Polish men of 27 years old and 33 years old have been arrested for stealing shoes and razorblades in Haarlem. They were stealing shoes in broad daylight, to which employers and bystanders informed the police, who arrived shortly after. The Police caught them after recieving a brief description of the culprits, at another store where they were trying to steal razorblades, among other articles.

Source: 112 Haarlem.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06 ♂	May 23, 10, 17:52 #2
Hang them, then deportation of the carcasses. With no right to return.

shushThreads: 5 Posts: 552 Joined: Dec 20, 09 ♀	May 23, 10, 17:53 #3
Maybe they were going to have an interview for a job and they needed a razor to shave and new shoes O_o

tuzinThreads: 1 Posts: 74 Joined: May 10, 10 ♂	Edited by: tuzin May 23, 10, 17:55 #4
stealing shoes and razorblades What a terrible crime. Thank you for letting us know.

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	May 23, 10, 18:01 #5
tuzin: What a terrible crime. Thank you for letting us know. Yes, indeed... and in broad daylight no less!

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	May 29, 10, 11:39 #6
tuzin: What a terrible crime. Thank you for letting us know. This has nothing to do with terrible, but everything with stupid. richasis: Yes, indeed... and in broad daylight no less! Yes, it's pretty stupid to ruin your future for a couple of shoes, isn't it? :)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Edited by: MareGaea May 29, 10, 11:42 #7
Could this be a aspiring entry fot the nomination "world's dumbest criminals"? :) But question remains: why are those criminal Poles pestering my little country? >^..^< M-G (indeed silly to ruin your future over a couple of shoes and razorbladed)

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	May 29, 10, 11:50 #8
MareGaea: Could this be a aspiring entry fot the nomination "world's dumbest criminals"? Yup. MareGaea: But question remains: why are those criminal Poles pestering my little country? They can't get a chick because they're too lazy to work? :)

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Edited by: MareGaea May 29, 10, 12:07 #9

A J:

They can't get a chick because they're too lazy to work?

Since there are a lot of Poles dwelling on social welfare in the Netherlands, could one therefore say that a lot of Poles in NL are criminal? And since it's a fact that a lot of Poles are on the dole in NL, could one say that in fact Poles in NL are the same of what some posters here accuse the coloured ppl of?

>^..^<

M-G (crime is crime, doesn't matter if it's murder or the stealing of some shoes)

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May 29, 10, 12:22 #10

MareGaea:

Since there are a lot of Poles dwelling on social welfare in the Netherlands, could one therefore say that a lot of Poles in NL are criminal? And since it's a fact that a lot of Poles are on the dole in NL, could one say that in fact Poles in NL are the same of what some posters here accuse the coloured ppl of?

Ofcourse not! Why would you say such things?? That's just a blatant racist remark, isn't it? (Oh wait! I'm white!)

xD

MareGaea:

(crime is crime, doesn't matter if it's murder or the stealing of some shoes)

Yes, but somehow I have more respect for smart criminals than dumb criminals. Oh, and ofcourse Robin Hood was a criminal aswell!

:)

A-J (Likes Robin Hood.)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	May 29, 10, 12:37 #11
A J: That's just a blatant racist remark, isn't it? Yeah, but funnily for some racist remarks can only be made towards Poles, huh? :) >^..^< M-G (tiens)

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	May 29, 10, 12:51 #12
espana: he was polish , he teached the english how to steal . dracula , pinocchio, mohammad and the nasty bambi were polish too. I knew it! (And what about little red riding hood?) MareGaea: Yeah, but funnily for some racist remarks can only be made towards Poles, huh? Makes perfect sense to me! xD

jarnowaThreads: 5 Posts: 801 Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂	May 29, 10, 12:55 #13
Isn't that remarkable? The same guy who starts crying everytime someone mentions non-whites doing bad things has no problem at all to talk about white criminals. He even has no problems starting a new topic about this. Double standards are so hypocrite.

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Edited by: A J May 29, 10, 13:09 #14

jarnowa:

Isn't that remarkable? The same guy who starts crying everytime someone mentions non-whites doing bad things has no problem at all to talk about white criminals. He even has no problems starting a new topic about this.

I'm not crying when someone mentions non-whites. I'm not even crying when you make your racist comments. I'm just not accepting your rubbish without the opportunity to say something about it! That's called freedom of speech. I'm just simply pointing out you and your buddies use every opportunity to stigmatize and generalize non-whites. You yourself even made the claim that non-whites are the biggest problem in Holland, which is obviously false.

jarnowa:

Double standards are so hypocrite.

You're the one with the double standards here, and you're the hypocrit aswell, because it obviously bothers you when I'm mentioning something about Polish criminals.

;)

POLENGGGsThreads: 5 Posts: 211 Joined: Apr 26, 10 ♂	May 29, 10, 13:18 #15
Maybe the Polish criminal classes chose their country on the level of sophistication of the people ; ie. probably harder to burglarise a house around Berlin, so why not go somewhere like Hengelo or some other dorpjes. =]

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May 29, 10, 13:18 #16

jarnowa:

Double standards are so hypocrite.

Yes and you are the prime example of that. Double standards: saying that all blacks are bad and all whites are good. We are merely pointing out that, while never denying that there are black criminals, there are for sure a lot of Polish criminals as well. Sth you fail to see, but somehow that doesn't surprise me.

>^..^<

M-G (funny how the ones who operate the largest numbers of double standards accuses other ppl who try to bring balance of the very same, must be a lack of braincells)

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Edited by: jarnowa May 29, 10, 13:20 #17

A J:

You yourself even made the claim that non-whites are the biggest problem in Holland, which is obviously false.

It's true and you know that. I gave you 2 different sources for that. One is the report from the department of justice saying that the % of Antillean and Moroccans in crime is the highest, followed by Surinamese, Turks and subsaharan Africans. After that it's the Eastern Europeans (which includes many gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria and as you know gypsies are nonwhites as well).

The other source is the link with the pictures of wanted criminals of which 2/3 is non-whites and includes almost no Poles. And your response was very weak, you lied that this list used to be more white but when it first came in the news (last year or so) there was also an overwhelming majority of non-whites.

You're the one with the double standards here, and you're the hypocrit aswell, because it obviously bothers you when I'm mentioning something about Polish criminals.

I am for freedom of speech so if someone wants to talk about crime committed by whites i'm fine. The problem is you, because you and your buddy MareGaea try to censor the forum if someone is naming and blaming negroe criminals but at the same time you have absolutely no problem to name and blame Polish criminals. That's why you are the hypocrite, not me.

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May 29, 10, 13:29 #18

MareGaea:

indeed silly to ruin your future over a couple of shoes and razorbladed)

what future ?

MareGaea:

But question remains: why are those criminal Poles pestering my little country?

why not? I could ask you why you pestering the forum with your little bourgeois views.
Your little country is a source of international drug deals where real criminals are making a lot of money. Don't know who is in the racked with them, could it be your ruling class?
:D

MareGaea:

Could this be a aspiring entry fot the nomination "world's dumbest criminals"?

:)

well, don't now about it! However I can tell that your knowledge about criminals is based on action moves not real life - lucky you!On the other hand you may imply that you know smart one's .....only M-G can let us on :D

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May 29, 10, 13:33 #19

jarnowa:

It's true and you know that. I gave you 2 different sources for that. One is the report from the department of justice saying that the % of Antillean and Moroccans in crime is the highest, followed by Surinamese, Turks and subsaharan Africans.

You gave me figures from 2005 and 2006. It's 2010. And again, you can talk about procentual figures, but I keep telling you that you're talking about small minorities where the Polish group is by far the largest group of immigrants. Currently, they commit the most crimes. (Not per capita, but as a group.) So? They're the biggest problem here. What's so hard for you to understand about that?

jarnowa:

After that it's the Eastern Europeans (which includes many gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria and as you know gypsies are nonwhites as well).

Polish commit three times more crimes than Dutch people. They're the largest group of immigrants here at the moment. They show up in the newspapers every day. I barely even see coloured people in my region, and the fifteen people who were murdered in my region were murdered by Polish people. (Polish on Polish crime aswell.) But here you are, blabbering on about your procentual figures..

So do you get it already or shall I explain it again? Example: For every hundred Polish guys we have here, we have maybe one Moroccan. If Polish people commit three times as much more crimes than Dutch people, and Moroccans four times as much, but if Moroccans are a small minority, and Polish people come in by the thousands every day, then guess which group commits the most crimes here at the moment?

:)

Bye Jarnowa. Sweet dreams.

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May 29, 10, 13:37 #20

A J:

So do you get it already or shall I explain it again? Example: For every hundred Polish guys we have here, we have maybe one Moroccan. If Polish people commit three times as much more crimes than Dutch people, and Moroccans four times as much, but if Moroccans are a small minority, and Polish people come in by the thousands every day, then guess which group commits the most crimes here at the moment?

You seem to ignore the bias of the media. I am sure Moroccans commit as much crimes as Poles do, but it doesn´t get published. Yesterday I read a study on how muslim immigrants cost lots of money to the Dutch taxpayer, yet you won´t see that on a "serious" newspaper.

It´s the same in Germany. There was a lot of buzz about a Russian guy that murdered a muslim woman in a court ,but no newspaper will publish news on the murders of teens at trainstations at night by the hands of muslim immigrants.

It´s called media bias, and it´s an evil thing.

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Edited by: MareGaea May 29, 10, 13:38 #21

Ironside:

I could ask you why you pestering the forum with your little bourgeois views.

I am sure you are aware that the views on coloured ppl by some here are far more narrowminded and bourgeois. Also, your responses to the Catholic abuse of young kids would place you in the same category. So I could ask you the same question: why are you pestering this forum with your small minded views?

Ironside:

why not?

So you're condoning it? Typical.

Ironside:

Your little country is a source of international drug deals where real criminals are making a lot of money.

I am sure you know that the biggest importer of drugs in Western Europe is Spain...And through that country the most drugs is shipped into Europe.

Ironside:

I can tell that your knowledge about criminals is based on action moves

Why? Because you have watched too many of them?

But anyway, your response is typical as of course no Pole does ever anything bad in your opinion.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)

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May 29, 10, 13:41 #22

Ironside:

Your little country is a source of international drug deals where real criminals are making a lot of money. Don't know who is in the racked with them, could it be your ruling class?

I'm sorry, but Canada took that position from us. I also don't have to tell you that 80% of all Dollar bills have traces of cocaine on them. But no, let's complain about one little country somewhere in Europe! Let's forget about Mexico!

jarnowa:

The problem is you, because you and your buddy MareGaea try to censor the forum if someone is naming and blaming negroe criminals but at the same time you have absolutely no problem to name and blame Polish criminals. That's why you are the hypocrite, not me.

The problem is that you don't EVER mention anything like Polish skinheads cutting off the fingers of a completely innocent Dutch person just because his friend was black. I never hear you about the Polish people who have burnt down a Dutch farm in Poland, because he wasn't too nice according to them. The problem is that you and your buddies try to blame EVERY black person, just because ONE guy did something.

Get it?

:)

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May 29, 10, 13:41 #23

MareGay:

Yes and you are the prime example of that. Double standards: saying that all blacks are bad and all whites are good. We are merely pointing out that, while never denying that there are black criminals, there are for sure a lot of Polish criminals as well. Sth you fail to see, but somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Never said that, you liar.

And i'm not denying the Polish crime, but apart from the fact that 3rd world crime in Holland is a much more serious problem, there's also a difference between Polish and non-white criminals.

From all i've seen and heard i have a strong impression that Polish criminals are in general less violent, less cowardly and they don't become so easily aggressive as moroccans, turks and blacks.

Miguel ColombiaThreads: 3 Posts: 711 Joined: Apr 20, 10 ♂	May 29, 10, 13:47 #24
jarnowa: From all i've seen and heard i have a strong impression that Polish criminals are in general less violent, less cowardly and they don't become so easily aggressive as moroccans, turks and blacks. True. But how about replying to my questions on the other thread, kid?

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Edited by: A J May 29, 10, 13:47 #25

Miguel Colombia:

You seem to ignore the bias of the media. I am sure Moroccans commit as much crimes as Poles do, but it doesn´t get published. Yesterday I read a study on how muslim immigrants cost lots of money to the Dutch taxpayer, yet you won´t see that on a "serious" newspaper.

I'm sorry, but we've heard it on the news already. 7.3 billion Euro a year. (And you already know I disagree with mass immigration.)

Miguel Colombia:

It´s the same in Germany. There was a lot of buzz about a Russian guy that murdered a muslim woman in a court ,but no newspaper will publish news on the murders of teens at trainstations at night by the hands of muslim immigrants.

Yes, and how many teens get murdered by German crazies? Exactly. But when an immigrant commits murder, it somehow becomes a threat to Germany. And that's what I mean. I'm fine with objective assessments, but you simply can't look at a group for what one individual does. I'm not calling every Polish guy as shoe-stealing idiot either am I?

Miguel Colombia:

It´s called media bias, and it´s an evil thing.

For your information: We rarely ever hear anything about Polish criminals on the news, because our right-wing parties love their slave labour. No, we have to hear about a few Moroccans all the time, while in reality we only have a few Moroccans here, and eventhough they procentually commit more crimes than Dutch people, they don't commit as many homicides. (And I'm sorry to break it to you, but murder is much worse than stealing.)

;)

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May 29, 10, 13:51 #26

jarnowa:

And i'm not denying the Polish crime, but apart from the fact that 3rd world crime in Holland is a much more serious problem, there's also a difference between Polish and non-white criminals.

Opi rides again.

jarnowa:

Polish criminals are in general less violent

Tell that to the relatives of that 73 year old lady who got killed by a Polish burglar.

>^..^<

M-G (I am sure they will understand your reasoning)

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May 29, 10, 13:52 #27

A J:

I'm sorry, but we've heard it on the news already. 7.3 billion Euro a year. (And you already know I disagree with mass immigration.)

Now that´s a big sum of money.

Yeah, you have heard about it. What will politicians do about it? Not a thing.

Oh, I didn´t know you disagreed with mass immigration. You sound like a lefty, actually.

A J:

No, we have to hear about a few Moroccans all the time, while in reality we only have a few Moroccans here, and eventhough they procentually commit more crimes than Dutch people, they don't commit as many homicides. (And I'm sorry to break it to you, but murder is much worse than stealing.)

1 Moroccan is already too many Moroccans.

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Edited by: A J May 29, 10, 13:52 #28

jarnowa:

And i'm not denying the Polish crime, but apart from the fact that 3rd world crime in Holland is a much more serious problem, there's also a difference between Polish and non-white criminals.

It isn't a much more serious problem, and I'm not going to explain this again. I've been clear enough.

jarnowa:

From all i've seen and heard i have a strong impression that Polish criminals are in general less violent, less cowardly and they don't become so easily aggressive as moroccans, turks and blacks.

In my region, 15 Polish guys got murdered by other Polish guys. In the span of ONE YEAR. In the same region, there has NEVER been a Moroccan who murdered ANYONE. You don't know jack about my country. That's okay. Just admit it and I'll give you a break.

:)

Miguel Colombia:

1 Moroccan is already too many Moroccans.

Well, from where I'm standing, we could say the exact same thing about the Polish after what they've doing here, but ofcourse that would be a hypocrit thing to say according to Jarnowa.

:)

Miguel Colombia:

You sound like a lefty, actually.

Most lefties here want to close the border and regulate immigration actually. It's actually the right-wing here who likes slave labour and the exploitation of foreign workers. So are you done talking about my country yet? Am I pretending to know everything about Poland? Do I live there? Do you live here?

:)

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May 29, 10, 13:57 #29

A J:

Well, from where I'm standing, we could say the exact same thing about the Polish after what they've doing here, but ofcourse that would be a hypocrit thing to do according to Jarnowa.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oqXpnURgYXo/S5wGAe14AkI/AAAAAAAAA0k/7bUQofMi B_0/s1600-h/Uploads_Tridion_tcm25-1095157-BB10marokkanen.gif

Moroccans are ,according to you, a small minority. That doesn´t stop them from commiting half as many crimes as ethnic Dutchies.

Anything to say about it?

By the way, me finds it interesting that ALL muslim criminal youths look more or less similar. They have cheap jeans, a white t-shirt and a leather jacket on.

And an ugly haircut.

Why do they have to look all the same?

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Edited by: jarnowa May 29, 10, 13:58 #30

Miguel Colombia:

You seem to ignore the bias of the media.

A J and MareGay ignore everything that doesn't fit their worldview.

You gave me figures from 2005 and 2006. It's 2010. And again, you can talk about procentual figures, but I keep telling you that you're talking about small minorities where the Polish group is by far the largest group of immigrants. Currently, they commit the most crimes. (Not per capita, but as a group.) So? They're the biggest problem here. What's so hard for you to understand about that?

Every serious study looks at percentages, not absolute numbers. If you suggest that Polish crime is bigger then you suggest that per 100 there's more criminals which is obvious a lie.

I remember a study that said that in Rotterdam half of Moroccans did have a criminal conviction or were in police files because they were seriously respected of crimes. And the study was only about serious crime so we're not talking about the theft of chewing gum or driving through red light.

It doesn't matter how big a group is, what counts is how many of them commit crimes per 100 persons.

The only reason you prefer to look at absolute numbers is because you have problems with the huge amount of non-white criminals and you don't feel ashamed to paint a nicer picture of 3rd world crime.

The problem is that you don't EVER mention anything like Polish skinheads cutting off the fingers of a completely innocent Dutch person just because his friend was black.

Source?

In my region, 15 Polish guys got murdered by other Polish guys. In the span of ONE YEAR.

Source?

In the same region, there has NEVER been a Moroccan who murdered ANYONE. You don't know jack about my country.

I told you that i lived in Netherlands and as a Flemish person of course i can also read your newspapers that are usually full of crime committed by nonwhites. Of course Polish crime also increased but only because so many Poles are now in Holland.

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