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MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 08, 10:26 #31
'Nynorsk' used to be called 'Landmaal until at least sixty years ago, when it was officially changed, much as 'Bokmaal' was changed from 'Riksmaal'. Jeg laeser og forstaar norsk, men jeg kan ickje snakke norsk.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 08, 10:34 #32
Norway has Sir Nils Olav, the military penguin emiritus, and that is something special.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 08, 11:04 #33
Funny vid, Oś ;)

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 08, 11:17 #34
I liked the one about the pet skunk. Woman on the street: Aw you don't get many of them in Aberdeen!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 21, 08, 16:53 #35
ah yes, that penguin :) Was at all Norwegian newspapers in a while funny thing

tomekcatkinsThreads: 13 Posts: 173 Joined: Oct 9, 07 ♂	Edited by: tomekcatkins Dec 21, 08, 17:16 #36
Jaszczolt: there's a special mess, only in Polish by Polish priests Invite the Polish and they already make a mess of it. ;)

LarskeThreads: - Posts: 3 Joined: Oct 17, 09 ♂	Oct 17, 09, 17:00 #37
lots of them (poles) come to the metal gigs near oslo, i was surprised how strong their feeling for bm was when i first met them

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Oct 18, 09, 15:26 #38
Larske: lots of them (poles) come to the metal gigs near oslo, i was surprised how strong their feeling for bm was when i first met them Well experts love their expertise ;) Not that all Poles love it :P

LarskeThreads: - Posts: 3 Joined: Oct 17, 09 ♂	Oct 18, 09, 17:42 #39
I meet only those who like it :)

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Dec 5, 09, 00:10 #40

Here, you might find this helpfull: pl-oslo.no

Thats the polish - norwegian organization. I havent been in too much contact with them, but they have meetings and stuff like that.

As for me, I am the second generation immigrant here in norway. My father came here in the early 80's, and he married a norwegian woman.

But a word of advice to any poles who are thinking about moving here; please dont solely seek out polish groups. I beg of you, we are already having enough trouble integrating people from Iran, Pakistan, Somalia and every other country from here to antarctica. The last thing we need is another minority group that doesnt learn to speak the language, and creates another generation of children who clog up the educational system because their parents doesnt speak the native language. Go out and make some norwegian friends! Dont do like so many other polish people I know have done, and just keep to your own kin. A friend of my father has lived in this country for nearly 10 years and knows only a few sentences in norwegian.

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Dec 5, 09, 02:11 #41

Caffeinewreck:

As for me, I am the second generation immigrant here in norway. My father came here in the early 80's, and he married a norwegian woman.

But a word of advice to any poles who are thinking about moving here; please dont solely seek out polish groups.

Seek out anybody you want people, it's a free world. But yes I would advice trying to learn Norwegian, but don't forget your heritage as some people do ^

TheOtherThreads: 5 Posts: 1,584 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Dec 5, 09, 03:07 #42
Mr Grunwald: but don't forget your heritage as some people do Hmmmm, the Poles shouldn't forget their heritage, but if the Turks in Europe do it the locals say that they are not willing to integrate?

CaffeinewreckThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Dec 4, 09 ♂	Dec 5, 09, 15:06 #43
Yeah, heritage is important. But I have to say that in this new world its getting sort of weird. If I have kids with an englishwoman then my kids would be English/Polish/Norwegian/German. Thats a lot of cultures to embrace xD

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Dec 7, 09, 04:29 #44

Caffeinewreck:

Yeah, heritage is important. But I have to say that in this new world its getting sort of weird. If I have kids with an englishwoman then my kids would be English/Polish/Norwegian/German. Thats a lot of cultures to embrace xD

Well I got Lithuanian, Polish, German, Norwegian (maybe even Ukrainian or jewish hell no)
Still I consider myself 50% Norwegian and 50% Polish. Heck im more German geneticly then Polish.

It's up to each individual to choose his nationality, it comes with hardship as sometimes it isn't obvious what you have choosed.

Let them get to know each of the cultures while you teach thoose who you want the kids to know most about?

TheOther:

Hmmmm, the Poles shouldn't forget their heritage, but if the Turks in Europe do it the locals say that they are not willing to integrate?

Well I (personally) don't mind Turks keeping their traditions (religions faith or family cutoms etc) just the same with any type of "different then me" it's his personal matter unless it affects me I don't give a damn what he/she does.

God judges everyone :)

Karolinaa

Mar 13, 10, 03:22 #45

Polson:

And yeah, so many dialects, but quite understandable among Norwegians from every places of the country, right? ^^

I'm half polish half norwegian, and have lived in Norway for my entire life. I've lived in a place where dialect is the common language spoken and written. It's kinda similar to nynorsk but all over it's very different. I find it easier to write bokmål than nynorsk although nynorsk is more similar to my dialect, if you know what I mean! But I have to say, not every norwegian understands the more unique dialects in norway. I mean, everybody understands the dialect from Trondheim, Finnmark, Bergen, Stavanger and so on, but I often find myself translating from my dialect to bokmål because of the fact that people that (most often) speak bokmål don't understand my dialect.

You have two alternatives I believe, the church or NUK(young norwegian catholics). I find it easier to meet other catholics and poles through NUK.

Mr Grunwald:

No, their often described as "Polske arbeidere" or "Polakker" wich means "Polish workers" or "Poles"

That comment about "polske arbeidere" or "polish workers" I find quite condemnatory(prejudice), this is what poles with a low-paid job are called in Norway, and it's like calling every norwegian rich because of the oil. My dad(from Poland) is a doctor and has lived in Norway for 25 years. I've told people that I'm from the north pole just for fun, I'm from north in Poland. It's ok as a joke, but I wouldn't use it in a serious setting.

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Mar 13, 10, 03:48 #46

Karolinaa:

That comment about "polske arbeidere" or "polish workers" I find quite condemnatory(prejudice),

Ofcourse it is but do you really think anyone can change it?
It's not my personal opinion I just said what most Norwegians I meet thinks of first when thinking of Poles, the only contact they get with Poles are Polish workers so it's not really that weird.
It is quite sad I agree but I understand it fully, I wish the Polish prime minister or president visited Norway some times :)
When I was in Poland I was called a fisherman once (lol) I hate fish so it was total fantasy for me lol

Karolinaa

Mar 13, 10, 16:37 #47

Mr Grunwald:

Karolinaa:
That comment about "polske arbeidere" or "polish workers" I find quite condemnatory(prejudice),
Ofcourse it is but do you really think anyone can change it?
It's not my personal opinion I just said what most Norwegians I meet thinks of first when thinking of Poles, the only contact they get with Poles are Polish workers so it's not really that weird.
It is quite sad I agree but I understand it fully, I wish the Polish prime minister or president visited Norway some times :)
When I was in Poland I was called a fisherman once (lol) I hate fish so it was total fantasy for me lol

Yes, I do believe that we can change it. I change peoples opinion when I tell people about my father. I also believe you can turn the word "polakker" into something funny/positive instead of using it negatively. For example, a pole does something only someone from Poland would have done, and I proudly say "polakker", it will turn peoples view of poles to something positive.

I can't turn every persons opinion on the case, but I believe that I turn my friends believes into a positive thing. No one has ever called my father a polish worker, and everybody knows who my father is in my town. People go to him rather to go to someone else, because he is so good at what he does.

banderiasThreads: 2 Posts: 29 Joined: Feb 10, 10 ♂	Mar 13, 10, 16:50 #48
just one.. north pole.. south pole is in antartica.. hahhahahaha joke- please dont get angry i love polish people..

Kasia01

Apr 16, 10, 21:32 #49

Glimt:

i live in Norway,i am a norwegian,but i was married to a polish woman!
i know the polish community pretty well,i know which bars and pubs you meet at.which churches where they have sunday service in Polish language.

if you wonder about anything just contact me

Are you still active on this forum?

In which city do you know more about the polish comunity - bars, clubs, and so on?

thanks in advance

Chicago PollockThreads: 10 Posts: 638 Joined: Apr 10, 10 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 08:00 #50
I'm an native English speaker and I've been told that the Scandinavian languages are the closest related to English and are therefore the easiest foreign language for an English speaker to learn. Which Scandinavian language would be the most practical to learn, Danish, Swedish or Norwegian???

Kenneth78Threads: 1 Posts: 182 Joined: Aug 2, 09 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 09:13 #51
As a Norwegian I would say Norwegian of course

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Apr 17, 10, 19:38 #52
Chicago Pollock: Which Scandinavian language would be the most practical to learn, Danish, Swedish or Norwegian??? Ive been watching Wallander ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Wallander ) and I was surprised how much Swedish is like English..So many words in common..

PolskiMocThreads: 7 Posts: 488 Joined: Mar 15, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Jun 6, 11, 20:03 #53
There is a Polish Norwegian Jazz Musician. Jan Garbarek He is good! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lYDWm25HA&feature=fvwrel Norwegians are one of the closest Western Europeans to Poles. Norwegians have the highest R1a haplogroup in Western Europe. I have heard Norwegians say they could not tell Poles from Norwegians based on looks alone.

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