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inl instituteThreads: 1
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We need to following information for our study on Poles in Germany :

What are social and cultural occupations of Poles in Germany ?
Where do they meet ?
Where they are concentrated ?
What specific social-cultural occupations they have ?

Looking forward to read from Poles in Germany ?

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Football!!!! heh:)
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Beer!!!
Lyzko  Nov 13, 10, 19:42    #4
The old adage remains sadly so in the public persona among Germans vs. Poles:

Bleibt dein Wagen noch gestohlen,
Such ihn wieder mal in Polen!
(Is your car one more lost soul?
Chances are it's with a Pole)

The social and cultural 'avocation'/vocation appears, as always "thief ", placing them just one rung above the Turks and the Russians on the German social pecking order:-(((
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Lyzko:
Bleibt dein Wagen noch gestohlen,
Such ihn wieder mal in Polen!


A graphic example:
Lyzko  Nov 13, 10, 21:06    #6
Pretty gross there, Marynku ol' girl-:)))

Incidentally, I'm not a German national but an American and so I don't really concur with the sort of anti-Polish prejudice displayed on this ad, whether it's from the States or from Europe.
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Lyzko:

Incidentally, I'm not a German national but an American and so I don't really concur with the sort of anti-Polish prejudice displayed on this ad, whether it's from the States or from Europe.


Well..it's a well earned prejudice!
The car theft statistics are led by Poland for years now...

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/brandenburg/autoklau-auf-bestellung/ 1939186.html
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Lyzko:
Incidentally, I'm not a German national but an American and so I don't really concur with the sort of anti-Polish prejudice displayed on this ad, whether it's from the States or from Europe.


It's good natured teasing. It goes back and forth....


inl institute:
What are social and cultural occupations of Poles in Germany ?

What kind of Poles are you talking about? First generation, second generation? Legal immigrants or illegals?
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Bratwurst Boy:

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/brandenburg/autoklau-auf-bestellung/ 1939186.html


Well, you know what they say - "there's a sucker born every minute."

*a German sucker with a BMW or Mercedes that is ;)*
Lyzko  Nov 13, 10, 22:32    #10
Translate that into US-wetback (Mexican) jokes and its the same scum, retold again and again, just reinforcing age-old prejudices!
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Lyzko:
Translate that into US-wetback (Mexican) jokes and its the same scum, retold again and again, just reinforcing age-old prejudices!


What can be "age old" in the US? The whole country is only some decades old! ;)

Stereotype jokes are made and suffered and laughed at the world over...no need to make a PC drama out of it!

Do you think the Poles have no "typical German" - jokes???
Lyzko  Nov 13, 10, 22:38    #12
Polish anti-German jokes are slightly different though. It's more historical than ideological, I think.
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Lyzko:
Polish anti-German jokes are slightly different though. It's more historical than ideological, I think.


How so?
What is ideological about car theft jokes?

Lyzko:
....times three-hundred and twenty, granted, not thousands like Germany-:)))
Apropos well-deserved prejudices, how does anti-German prejudice strike you? Also undeserved??


Stereotypes are mostly well earned! ;)
Every country has them...the reason for alot of jokes! The individual might not deserve it but who cares...

Man...you really are much to uptight!
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Ah yes, the third one down looks just like me! LOL

There, now I feel better. Meanwhile back to occupations of Poles in Germany.....
priest  Mar 30, 11, 17:17    #15
men work as thieves,
girls are easy and prepared to do anything for a bit of money.
Some of the more educated men, sell cigaretes
and some of the decent polish girls try to convert you into jehovas witnesses, and if your handsome will sleep with you too
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"Priest"- what a rubbish!!

shame to say, Polish people are not much socializing with their co-patriots in Germany (my experience). If you are in "cleaning" or "building" business you might meet some people though. However, if you married to a foreigner (German or other) and have an university degree and good job you can forget it- envy, jalousy and other unpleasant behaviour will destroy any potential friendship with Polish expats.
Am Polish citizen and lived already across the world but I've never met any nationals who will so little organize meetings, national fests, etc. like Polish people. And that is a big shame!
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From a German perspective I had to learn to other day that the Dutch have a similar joke about Germans stealing their bikes... So it goes from west to east--- Dutch bike to Germany, German car to Poland.... Anything going from Poland to Russia? :-)
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Jars777:
Anything going from Poland to Russia? :-)


It used to in the old days. In the time of People's Republic of Poland (PRL) and the Soviet Union,
we used to trade a lot with Russians - we gave them meat (for free) and in exchange they took
coal from us (free of charge). :)
Lyzko  Apr 13, 11, 14:41    #19
Just a question, Bratwurst Boy.

While we're on the topic of prejudices, i.e. "well-earned" stereotypes, how about "All Krauts are Nazis!!", huh? Is that also a well-deserved? I DON'T THINK SO!
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t "All Krauts are Nazis!!", huh? Is that also a well-deserved? I DON'T THINK SO!


Why not well-deserved?

Do you really believe the after war fairytale that there had been only a handful real Nazis and the rest had been resisters by heart (as you can hear so often from other countries) ? ;)
Lyzko  Apr 13, 11, 17:11    #21
No, I too am well aware of the 'kalte Amnestie' after the war for many former Nazis
Lyzko  Apr 13, 11, 20:11    #22
On the other hand, naturally, there were numerous Germans who honestly felt bleedin' guilty (as well they should've) about their country's part in WW II and tried to make amends, i.e. Wiedergutmaching, with both Israel as well as with returning German Jewish "citizens". The Zimt affair in the late 50's though cast a pall over the entire country, just as it was starting to emerge from the shadows of Hitler!
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Ja gut....and not all Poles steal cars...but still....that's for stereotypes, all abit truth innit...*shrugs*
Lyzko  Apr 14, 11, 17:18    #24
...only don't make a single, isolated truth into one big UNTRUE generalization!!!!.., einverstanden? ***sighs*
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inl institute:
What are social and cultural occupations of Poles in Germany ?


Most Poles in Germany are philosophers and poets.
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southern:
Most Poles in Germany are philosophers and poets.


:) hmm I used to pick strawberries in Germany but then I guess I was in that small minority ;)
Lyzko  Apr 14, 11, 20:30    #27
...then again some Poles have made it incredibly big in Germany, e.g. Marcel Reich-Ranicki. Take away his thick accent, his German is perfect, he's written many books and his writings on German literature in particular are off the charts. An example of an "immigrant" who succeeded more or less on his own merit, hated, yet ruefully admired, by gentile German society because he still has the whiff of the 'kleine schtetl Jew' against the perceived supriority of Aryan hegemony!
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Why "ruefully"???

As he once stated at some self-clapping ceremony that german TV is generally crap he got standing ovations!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/13/germany-television

He is called the "literature pope" in Germany...a Pole in the self-acclaimed country of the thinkers and poets!
What an achievement!!! :)
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Lyzko:
Marcel Reich-Ranicki.


A Jew actually.
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A Jew actually.

Your point is?

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