What about the Poles living in Germany?

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Jan 30, 10, 07:39 #31

most of those who went to live in the Ruhr area where Schlesien(Slask) people - a minority, neither German neither Polish -although they are more culturally close to the Polish and the language is much more like polish than like german.

Alot of these people and also Poles who immigrated to Germany did so during the past 500 years, so why mention only 2004 Europ4ean Union accession period. During the Socialist years they could have gone there and remained as permanent residents .

I think its more justified by Poles moving to Germany rather than Britain, not only because of WW2 but mainly because the second largest ethnic minority in Poland after Jews since Poland came to existance were in fact Germans, some cities and towns leading up to WW2 had on average 20% Germans , in some like Lodz where there were more textile industry there were more.

tuzinThreads: 1 Posts: 74 Joined: May 10, 10 ♂	Jun 23, 10, 17:04 #32
i think you all gets suprised when i say that the germans don't have anythink against the poles, yes, they have somethink against albanians, turks, arabians etc, but they like polish people much more than them I've made unfortunately different experiences...

Lyzko	Jul 24, 10, 17:20 #33
Poles have been living in Germany, especially in the Ruhr area, since the 19th century, when they came to work in the mines. Many family names, Grosenik, Koslek, Krawitz, Wapniewski etc... bear the mark of Polish forebearers in much of Germany proper. Once, people joked about re-naming "Bottrop" "Bottropki", because of the large percentage of Poles living there-:)))

scotmanThreads: - Posts: 3 Joined: Nov 10, 10 ♂	Nov 10, 10, 23:15 #34
How is it life in Germany?? Do you like it?

anvanhThreads: - Posts: 5 Joined: Apr 12, 11 ♀	Apr 13, 11, 12:12 #35
well, am Polish and live in Germany. What would you like to know??:-) Life is good but there are too many Germans here lol

Newhere	Apr 13, 11, 12:26 #36
I recently move from Warsaw to Berlin. And it's not that easy to live here without good german. It's quite difficult to get a job as well. If you have any tips about job etc. let me know! I would really aprciate it!

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Apr 13, 11, 12:36 #37

without good knowledge of German language it will be very difficult to find a good job. I would try with some international companies based in Berlin.
Germans are very strict about work experience, letters of recommendation, certificates, etc..They never look at a CV without those well organized and neatly listed. It doesn't matter if you are very good at what you are/were doing- it HAS TO look good on the paper.

Newhere	Apr 13, 11, 12:51 #38
i totaly agree with you. The only job I menage to get here is internship in online marketing company where I'm working in Polish/English. But I couldn't find any "good" job. Maybe someone heard about bartender/waitress job in Berlin? I use to work as a journalist in Warsaw but I could'nt find a job for english spaeking person here.

Jars777Threads: 15 Posts: 54 Joined: Feb 27, 11 ♀	Apr 13, 11, 12:54 #39
May I join as a German living in the UK and thinking about moving to Poland? If I can help with anything regarding life in Germany let me know. May I also ask how Poles think of Germans moving to Poland? Thanks

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Apr 13, 11, 13:32 #40
Jars777: May I also ask how Poles think of Germans moving to Poland? You are generally decent, law abiding citizens with good work ethics (as we can judge by our German minority in Opole area), so I can't see why anyone in Poland should mind you moving to our country (as long as you come without your panzers and Stukas, that is ;)).

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Apr 13, 11, 13:45 #41

@ Torq:

Thank you! That helps. Will remember to leave Panzer at home... :-)! That is actually leading me to my next question...

Through living in England I had to learn not to take jokes about WW2 personally. Brits make jokes about it quite a bit and it is a very strange experience. I don't think
people would joke like that ever in Germany. I suppose we grow up just feeling guilty for it all the time. How is it in Poland?

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 13, 11, 13:54 #42
Jars777: I suppose we grow up just feeling guilty for it all the time. How is it in Poland? I think that WWII jokes are world wide phenomenon in English speaking countries, but like in Germany I think that the topic is treated a bit more seriously in Poland.

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Apr 13, 11, 14:07 #43

Jars777:

How is it in Poland?

You hear them every now and again, but not very often. You are more likely to hear jokes
about mothers-in-law, policemen or sex, like in any other country. Contrary to what you might
think, there is no widespread anti-German attitude in Polish society, so as long as you don't
address people as "du Polnische schweine", you should be OK :)

Sorry for the jocular tone, but you really shouldn't worry about moving to Poland. Go for it!

alexw68	Edited by: alexw68 Apr 13, 11, 14:22 #44
Torq: so as long as you don't address people as "du Polnische schweine", you should be OK :) 'Schlesien immer deutsch' would play well in the current climate, too :)

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Apr 13, 11, 14:24 #45

I think that WWII jokes are world wide phenomenon in English speaking countries, but like in Germany I think that the topic is treated a bit more seriously in Poland.

Good. I think it's strange that WWII jokes are very common in English speaking countries.

Sorry for the jocular tone, but you really shouldn't worry about moving to Poland. Go for it!

Thank you... I am trying but job search is slow... and probably a bit early too. We can only move in August as school term in the UK finishes late July.

I wouldn't dare say anything like that... I have only had good experience with Polish people. My parents farm employed men from Poland for many years and they were lovely
and very hard-working. I wish I would have known then that I would think of moving to Poland in the future. I would have got them to teach me polish. :-)

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Apr 13, 11, 14:47 #46

you wanted a WWII joke?? ;)

WWII - Russian bunker - there is some heavy knocking on the steel door -

Kto wy? (Who are you??) Swoi! (Friends (as in friend or foe) A skolko was?? (And how many of you are there?) Ein-und-zwanzig :)

the dialogue of the joke is normally said in Russian and German - it is much more funny then for Poles

or another one hehe

WWII - Russians sitting in a buker on a frontline playing cards drinking 'spirt' (say a strong booze ;)) - at one moment a growing low buzz of motors is heard - Starszyna ( a sergeant) says: Sasza, słyszy, tanki jedut. (Sasha can you hear the tanks coming?) - Da, słyszu (Yes, I can hear them) - Sasza wozmi granat iz połki idi rozbij tanki (Sasha take the grenade from the shelf and go knock them out) - Sasha takes the grenade and leaves - After a while several cracks and blasts are heard - After next couple of whiles Sasha returns
Starszyna (The sergeant) asks - Sasha, tanki rozbity??? (Sasha, are the tanks knocked out?) - Da (Yes) - To położy granat na połku (Then put the grenade back on the shelf)

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 14, 11, 13:18 #47
gumishu: Starszyna (The sergeant) asks - Sasha, tanki rozbity??? (Sasha, are the tanks knocked out?) - Da (Yes) - To położy granat na połku (Then put the grenade back on the shelf) I don't get that bit, so how did he get rid of the tanks?

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Edited by: gumishu Apr 14, 11, 13:30 #48

hague1cmaeron:

gumishu:
Starszyna (The sergeant) asks - Sasha, tanki rozbity??? (Sasha, are the tanks knocked out?) - Da (Yes) - To położy granat na połku (Then put the grenade back on the shelf)

I don't get that bit, so how did he get rid of the tanks?

well, in Russian (and in Polish) rozbić/rozbit' means to smash/to break like to break a glass - actually in Polish we wouldn't say rozbić czołg like Russians would say but rather zniszczyć czołg (to destroy a tank) or more colloquially rozwalić czołg - just imagine a guy smashing tanks with a hand grenade ;) - then again I thought it can be funny for an English speaker imagining a guy 'knocking' out tanks with blows of a hand armed with a HG (actually knocking at them) ;) - the funny idea for Poles is that Russians could really try doing this and actually succeed in it hehehe :)

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Apr 16, 11, 04:09 #49
gumishu: magining a guy 'knocking' out tanks with blows of a hand armed with a HG (actually knocking at them) ;) - the funny idea for Poles is that Russians could really try doing this and actually succeed in it hehehe :) OK, I get it now(:

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