What About The Poles In The Netherlands?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,957 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Sep 18, 10, 18:12 #61
AussieSheila: It seems like slavery is alive and well in the old Europe. Yes mad'm,here in Europe we carry our slaves by the leash.

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Sep 18, 10, 19:39 #62

AussieSheila:

My friends are currently working in holland and are not very happy because they were promised Euro 5 an hour but they are paid only 3.21 Euro after tax + free accommodation (for 18 yrs old) and 4.01 Euros for others (without a room). They work 10-12 hours most of the time, 5 days a week (extremely hard work requiring heavy lifting of goods weighing 10-20 kg).

Do your friends have two arms and legs and do they talk?

AussieSheila:

Any person doing the same work here in Australia will be paid minimum $20+ /hr + 9% superannuation (around 15 Euros).

Cough cough bull shite, lets not forget the Ozzi beaches they have waves too.

What is Ozzi Sheilas problem with Europe? especially Poland.

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Edited by: MareGaea Sep 18, 10, 19:48 #63

AussieSheila:

My friends are currently working in holland and are not very happy because they were promised Euro 5 an hour but they are paid only 3.21 Euro after tax + free accommodation (for 18 yrs old) and 4.01 Euros for others (without a room). They work 10-12 hours most of the time, 5 days a week (extremely hard work requiring heavy lifting of goods weighing 10-20 kg).

You didn't happen to forget that pay in NL is always mentioned before tax? So if these guys get 5 Euro/hr, they indeed will get sth of 4 Euros or less, given the fact that NL knows a taxation of about 33 to 37 per cent. And since it's including accomodation, they should not be complaining at all. They probably don't speak Dutch and since it's probably some low level job, it's like that. Actually, it's correct as 37 per cent of 5 Euro is 1,85. So they shouldn't complain at all. They are getting their 5 Euros. And besides, I don't believe that in Australia low level work like that will pay 20 bucks after tax.

Edit: Again, wages are always mentioned before tax in NL as they are in most countries in the world. Given the nature of their stay they pay 35.8 per cent, which makes sense.

>^..^<

M-G (coffee break)

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Edited by: Plastic Pole52 Sep 19, 10, 03:48 #64

AussieSheila:

My friends are currently working in holland and are not very happy because they were promised Euro 5 an hour but they are paid only 3.21 Euro after tax + free accommodation (for 18 yrs old) and 4.01 Euros for others (without a room). They work 10-12 hours most of the time, 5 days a week (extremely hard work requiring heavy lifting of goods weighing 10-20 kg).

Any person doing the same work here in Australia will be paid minimum $20+ /hr + 9% superannuation (around 15 Euros).

It seems like slavery is alive and well in the old Europe.

Now it's all clear to me.Those working for slave wages are not Poles.You guys bash the wrong people.They are Australians pretending to be Poles.Now seriously ,I highly doubt what she says is true.It's hard for me to imagine anybody from Australia or even "poor" Poland would be working for Euro 3.21/h.I personally know 2 guys working in NL and one makes euro14/h (driver,delivers some cookies to the stores ,5 years on the job),the other one makes euro12/h (cutting grass on some high end golf course, he says Clarence Seedorf plays there,3 years on the job).Both wages are before taxes and accomodation.Neither is employed thru work agency (they already did their time for agencies and now are employed directly).Still, working thru agencies they claim they were making euros7-8/h (before tax and accomodation).Both speak ok English and some Dutch.

MareGaea:

And besides, I don't believe that in Australia low level work like that will pay 20 bucks after tax.

Neither do I.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,957 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Sep 19, 10, 07:07 #65
This Australia must be excellent country since Aussie Stella lives in.

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Sep 19, 10, 11:04 #66

minimum wage for such unskilled casual work in a transport, logistic and retail environment is $ 20.59 before taxes (such as stacking shelf, packing, loading, cleaning floors, check out chick, trolly collector etc) . The first $ 6000 is tax free and the rest are taxed at 15 cent per dollar up to $ 35,000. 18 yrs old get 70% of adult wage (21 yrs and over). My friend is NOT lying, this kind of abuse must stop!

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,859 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Sep 19, 10, 14:15 #67
southern: Everything easter of Oder and below the Danube fits my purposes. If you MUST choose one region , which would it be? ;-)

AussieSheilaThreads: 6 Posts: 113 Joined: Aug 14, 10 ♀	Oct 3, 10, 16:43 #68
I need urgent help regarding my friends. They were made redundant from their jobs and kicked out of their accommodation and are sleeping rough in the forest. They cant find jobs without having a proper address, can anyone give some suggestion. Also if you know a cheap backpacker hostel somewhere near the big cities please let me know.

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Oct 3, 10, 17:13 #69

AussieSheila:

My friends are currently working in holland and are not very happy because they were promised Euro 5 an hour but they are paid only 3.21 Euro after tax + free accommodation (for 18 yrs old) and 4.01 Euros for others (without a room).

AussieSheila:

It seems like slavery is alive and well in the old Europe.

Sounds like your friends didnt do a very good job after all, hey??

AussieSheila:

They were made redundant from their jobs and kicked out of their accommodation and are sleeping rough in the forest.

I dont think any Poles are going to help you after the crap youve spouted on here, and most of the Dutch members are not around at the moment.

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Oct 3, 10, 17:33 #70
MareGaea: some Dutch can't even speak or write Dutch properly I think thats when a country's language begins working against itself. I once met a Swede who claimed that many of their people didn't engage in literature of higher form because it wasn't pleasant to read or write.

Lyzko	Nov 13, 10, 18:22 #71
That seems the height of political correctness. Swedes communicate more easily, not to mention effectively, in Swedish than in any other language. Whoever told you that must have been joking. I know that language fluently and can assure you that the Swedes think their English skills are much better than they actually are-:))

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