To all Brits! The immigration issue.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Jul 17, 11, 23:43 #331
isthatu2: who the fook do they think they are? Indigenous Europeans? lol the point was they have someone (mummy, grandaddy) who are immigrant and shouldn't say that. Came in 60s or 70s huh? Funny how well they've assimilated I don't hear these youngsters speaking English..

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 00:01 #332
PennBoy: Funny how well they've assimilated I don't hear these youngsters speaking English.. If you were in a group of two dozen Poles would you be speaking English? My Scots Italian Cousins yabber away in Godfather speak all the time,doesnt mean they cant or dont speak English :)

EdWilczynskiThreads: 3 Posts: 163 Joined: Jun 6, 11 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 00:05 #333
isthatu2: doesnt mean they cant or dont speak English Well that depends on your definition of English .......Big up da massif innit blood!!!

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 00:07 #334
EdWilczynski: Well that depends on your definition of English .......Big up da massif innit blood!!! Lols, the pasty faced Yorkshire Yoof dat tawk laahhhk dis innit blud, I arks you, it be well sick.or summat like that tha knows lad..:)

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Edited by: EdWilczynski Jul 18, 11, 00:14 #335

isthatu2:

Lols, the pasty faced Yorkshire Yoof dat tawk laahhhk dis innit blud, I arks you, it be well sick.or summat like that tha knows lad..:)

Just woke the missus up laughing!!

But seriously......I tried to watch Kidulthood last night..... My better half (who speaks English almost natively) turned to me and said...."Do you understand them?"

I had to answer truthfully, "Not a bloody word!!"

So we put Usta Usta on instead.

Oh and if Kidulthood is anywhere near the truth.....We will not be returning to the UK in a hurry.

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Jul 18, 11, 00:25 #336

I've noticed, in the 90s anyway, that west indian and indians in Scotland would call themselves Scottish but in London describe themselves as Black British or British Indian, not the scots ones I mean England born ones. I can't see how any of them could call themselves English. Not sure if it was that Scotland done integration better or Scottish generally prefer to call themselves Scottish rather than British.
I can't be sure with some of the definitions given a few posts ago if Her Maj can call herself English, maybe British;) Why is her face still on all that foreign money, anyway.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 00:34 #337
isthatu2: If you were in a group of two dozen Poles would you be speaking English? That's me an immigrant. They however are 2nd or 3rd generation Brits.

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 00:50 #338
PennBoy: That's me an immigrant. They however are 2nd or 3rd generation Brits. If you mean those people in the you tube vid, they were not British I don't think. Their jibber-jabber didn't have an English sounding accent even by some of today's rather low standards.

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Jul 18, 11, 15:12 #339

Mister H:

Their jibber-jabber didn't have an English sounding accent even by some of today's rather low standards.

Yessss,what is an "english sounding accent" exactly? Scouse,Manc,Chorley,Peckham,St ives, Newcastle, Sunderland, Doncaster, Barnsley, Bedford,Northampton,Lincoln..you see where Im going with this?

PennBoy:

That's me an immigrant. They however are 2nd or 3rd generation Brits.

Who,unlike,oh,I dont know,3rd generation Polish/Armenians (see what I did there?) can actually still speak the language of their forefathers relativly fluently..............My mate Yaz was well put out though when he went to stay with family back in Pakistan for a month,the entire time every one there kept laughing at his English accent and his funny,old fashioned way of speaking Urdhu :):)

EdWilczynski:

Oh and if Kidulthood is anywhere near the truth.....

Not in the civilised world it isnt,dont know about that there london though......

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Jul 18, 11, 16:14 #340

isthatu2:

My mate Yaz was well put out though when he went to stay with family back in Pakistan for a month,the entire time every one there kept laughing at his English accent and his funny,old fashioned way of speaking Urdhu :):)

This is why I have Polish friends here and I read in Polish so whenever I go back to Poland for a vacation I wont be looked at like I'm not Polish. My friends brother came to visit from Poland a few weeks ago (an educated man) and I was curious to see if my Polish has changed I asked him if there's a American accent when I speak it , he said 'no I would have never thought you've been here that long'. So it's nice to speak two languages and being able to switch the accent.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:29 #341
PennBoy: I think it's because African-Americans and others don't feel equal even to me, even to an immigrant because i'm white. I've had a few look at me with envy Talk about being obesessed with something one didn't have a choice about when being born ... and that too to such a high degree. Obsession ... and what a lame one.

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:31 #342
isthatu2: Yessss,what is an "english sounding accent" exactly? Scouse,Manc,Chorley,Peckham,St ives, Newcastle, Sunderland, Doncaster, Barnsley, Bedford,Northampton,Lincoln..you see where Im going with this? No I don't.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:31 #343
Huh? no one's obsessed Lodzianku this thread is old I don't recall talking about this everyday so keep your opinion to yourself.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:34 #344
PennBoy: Huh? no one's obsessed Lodzianku this thread is old So you deny your affiliation with this perspective of urs? Alright then, congratulations ... there'z nothing better than that :)

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:36 #345
And what exactly is my perspective, please explain it to me how you it's seen thorough your eyes?

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:40 #346
Re-read what you wrote and your perspective can be smelt from it. However, if you don't have the common sense or seeing it through those words you wrote, no further explanation will have any effect. Its futile to explain those who live to deny truth, and its not needed to explain those who can see it.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 16:42 #347
You mean that I slightly favor white people over others? Do I have friends who are non whites, yes I do I don't mind then as long and it's some not majority. Any more questions????

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 17:31 #348
PennBoy: Do I have friends who are non whites, yes I do I don't mind then as long and it's some not majority. Any more questions???? Yes, I have one. Why don't you want white people to be in the minority ? I'm not flaming you for saying it, I like your honesty, just curious as to why that is.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 17:33 #349
Don't you feel more comfortable around people you can relate to?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 18, 11, 17:38 #350
PennBoy: Don't you feel more comfortable around people you can relate to? I have no problem at all relating to people who have a different skin colour to me. But then I'm not a racist.

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Jul 18, 11, 17:48 #351

Harry:

I have no problem at all relating to people who have a different skin colour to me.

But then I'm not a racist.

I'm not racist I don't relate to white trash either, except (at least in this country) usually a non white is 'ghetto trash' I don't talk, dress, behave, walk like him I don't listen to the same music, or find anything he does interesting. The Arab, Jewish, Moroccan, Turkish, Haitian, Latino friends I do have act, dress, talk 'white' . It's not racist it's society, why don't people who look or dress or talk a certain way get office jobs?

modafinilThreads: - Posts: 831 Joined: Jun 28, 11 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 17:55 #352
Harry: I have no problem at all relating to people who have a different skin colour to me. But then I'm not a racist. It's more serious than that. To just be able to relate to others on the surface (literally) will mean very shallow relationships and a self-imposed denial of experience. I dread to imagine how dreary life would be. It's classic karma, if I can steal an idea of the Hindus.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jul 18, 11, 17:59 #353
modafinil: It's more serious than that. To just be able to relate to others on the surface (literally) will mean very shallow relationships and a self-imposed denial of experience. Exactly.

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Jul 18, 11, 18:07 #354

PennBoy:

usually a non white is 'ghetto trash' I don't talk, dress, behave, walk like him I don't listen to the same music, or find anything he does interesting.

Usually non-whites are ghetto trash? Such delightful racism there, pity that the comment proves once and for all that your claim to have graduated from Penn State is a lie: Penn State ranks fifth in the nation in the number of Black faculty at flagship state universities and very nearly one in five of all Penn State students are non-white. What are the chances of you making such stupidly bigoted statements if you had gone to Penn State?

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