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 Sep 20, 11, 01:40    #61
David 18 what's this 'we'? You are an American and about as Polish as Yorkshire pudding!


Hi delph, lots of new "guest names" today I see...

Angel-eyes  Sep 20, 11, 02:41    #62
Delph, i'm afraid not!
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Edited by: KingAthelstan  Sep 20, 11, 03:06    #63
Multiculturalism is a step in the right direction

No I am fundamentally against the doctrine of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism in England, there was an English culture and identity long before the mass immigration of the 50s and 60s, long before New Labour shoved the Doctrine Multiculturalism down our throats.

Guy fawkes night, Morris dancing, Cheese Rolling, Running of Burning tar in Northumberland, Drinking Cider, Northumberland pipes, The Wurzels, John Lilburne, Thomas Hardy, Hallowe'en, John Locke, Isaac newton, this is England

The native cockney culture in London has become completely and utterly destroyed and it brings a tear to my eye, I am not against all immigration it's just when the parent culture becomes marginalised and disspates and people are branded racist for waving the St Georges cross people create foreign ghettos that are left to fester like in Tower Hamlets or Bradford.
There is nothing unique about multiculturalism, if you want that go to New York. England unique culture which Poland still has been shat on, maligned and is vanishing.

The Irish came here in the 19th -20 th centuries in very large numbers and they assimilated into English Culture, The French Protestants (Huegenots) came in in the 17th-18th and did the same as did the Eastern European Jews who assimilated into cockney culture in London in in the 1890s.

read what Cleese said http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3791303/John-Cleese-London-i s-no-longer-English-city.html

John Cleese: "I love having different cultures around but when the parent culture kind of dissipates, you're left thinking, 'What's going on?' "

If I went to Uzbekistan I wouldn't expent to find the local chippy a pint of Newcastle brown ale and the Uzbek government to bend over backwards to teach me Uzbek.

aside of the fact that the level of immigration has been out of control, the very fundamental fabric of England has become so uncool and vilified to such an extant that what ken Livingstone was asked what's so great about Britain: 'oh its the Multi culturalism'.

Multicultralism is just a load of other foriegn cultures. NO, England has been here for 1000 years, but it has been reduced to being New Labour forcing us to be proud of having lots of diffrent foriegn cuktures as the only unique aspect about england.


Oh England, what hath yea become?
mooselimb  Sep 20, 11, 03:18    #64
Oh England, what hath yea become?

aMODERN DEMOCRACY LIKE united states of america
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 Sep 20, 11, 03:52    #65
So, your argument against multi culturalism and its embracing of many different religions into England includes naming;
John Locke

does it KA?
Epic Fail.....
Unlike Hobbes, who saw uniformity of religion as the key to a well-functioning civil society, Locke argues that more religious groups actually prevent civil unrest. Locke argues that civil unrest results from confrontations caused by any magistrate's attempt to prevent different religions from being practiced, rather than tolerating their proliferation.

Or sully the name of Freeborn John...John Lilburne stood for exactly the opposite of whatever you think you stand for KA. Make no mistake on that score as he belived in the rights of all men to live as they wished.
oh,and,nuther Epic fail re halloween...Thats a Scottish invention.

The Irish came here in the 19th -20 th centuries in very large numbers and they assimilated into English Culture

Lols....how many Irish clubs in England???

same as did the Eastern European Jews who assimilated into cockney culture in London in in the 1890s

LMFAO, you have got to be having a bubble matey.....see that thing you are sat on? You aint meant to talk out of it.....



And,just in closing, London has never been an "English City", it has always been a place dominated by immigrants,any 6th form history student could tell you that.
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 Sep 20, 11, 03:56    #66
You are confusing multiculturalism with democracy. France for example has just as many ( if not more immigrants from the 3rd world, yet they to not preach the doctrine of multiculturalism and yet still manage to retain and be proud of a distinctly French culture.

perhaps you would like to take 5 million 3rd world immigrants and see how they sh*t on Polish culture, then we will see who's the smug ass?

You have an Eastern European country that has still retained and is rightfully proud of it's native culture. Multi-Culture is just an multitude of foreign cultures super-imposed on the native one. There is nothing unique about it. you can find it In Amsterdam in Toronto, in New York, this is England, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
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 Sep 20, 11, 04:09    #67
perhaps you would like to take 5 million 3rd world immigrants and see how they sh*t on Polish culture, then we will see who's the smug ass?

I can sit here and be a "smug ARSE" as long as I like old chap,being as Im happily sat in Danelaw,just south east of Jorvikshire.
You see old bean, plenty of us Britons are secure enough in who we are and our culture and history to know fine well that it takes a lot more than the passing fancies of some government or others diktats to wipe anything out......
Im sorry if you feel you and those you know have so little good old fashioned English bloody mindedness that some policy dreamt up in Whitehall will shake your stance on being English....Im sorry, but I rather suspect if you do a DNA test you will probably find, from that scared of shadows streak a mile wide,that you are Hugenout or Norman yourself...
A nations culture is not defined or controlled by its governments or outside forces but shaped by the people, as an Englishman,with your defeatist attitude you hardly stand on the shoulders of giants.........
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 Sep 20, 11, 04:19    #68
Lols....how many Irish clubs in England???


People of Irish origin:John lennon, Steven Gerrard, Wayne rooney, PAul Mccarthy, George OSborne. half of liverpool is Irish, they didnt deand gaelic signs on every street when they came in the 19th centuary

LMFAO, you have got to be having a bubble matey.....see that thing you are sat on? You aint meant to talk out of it.....


Some integrated Jews:Alan Sugar Amy Winehouse, sacha baron cohen, Nigella Lawson, Vanessa Feltz, David Miliband, Roni Anconna, Jason Isaacs Daniel Radcliffe.

And,just in closing, London has never been an "English City", it has always been a place dominated by immigrants,any 6th form history student could tell you that.


No, there was a cockney culture that had existed in some form for hundreds of years, and yes immigrants like the east end Jews ( there are many cockney words of yiddish origin) the Irish, the Huguenots all mostly integrated.
that culture has now become destroyed in the last 50 years.

England:


Not England






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 Sep 20, 11, 04:26    #69
So, you think violant protests on the streets of london are something brought here by recent immigrants then KA?
Seriously fella, read a history book or 3..........
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 Sep 20, 11, 07:37    #70
Bring all those Polish women to the States. Nobody notices.
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 Sep 20, 11, 08:02    #71
The point is who is the father of these children by polish women.If he is another Slav then the news are good.


My thoughts exactly.

half of them probably have paki or black partners :\

although i sincerely hope not..




Well, on a side note,

any polka here willing to provide me with 10+ polish babies? ;))
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 Sep 20, 11, 10:53    #72
David 18 what's this 'we'? You are an American and about as Polish as Yorkshire pudding!

Could this be Harry or Delph trolling?

<Facepalm>
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 Sep 20, 11, 13:31    #73
By the bloody way, This '3rd world' London you are speaking of, it does subsidise the rest of the UK and the EU. Much like the '3rd world' commonwealth nations did for four centuries. Not disparaging the workers from elsewhere on the Island.
As for being English/Polish/Black - it's what you are, not what you do.
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 Sep 20, 11, 13:37    #74
Could this be Harry or Delph trolling?


Whoever it is they have you sussed!
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 Sep 20, 11, 13:39    #75
Whoever it is they have you sussed!

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 Sep 20, 11, 13:50    #76
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Come on your an American. There's millions of Mexicans who would give their high teeth for your passport. :-)
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 Sep 20, 11, 14:18    #77
50 babies

stop reading daily mail
What so sensational about it ?Women are having children all over the world.There a quite few Polish women in UK. One plus one equals two, you should know your maths!
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 Sep 20, 11, 14:52    #78
Come on your an American. There's millions of Mexicans who would give their high teeth for your passport. :-)

If i were an American i would not have sucha bad grammar ^^
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 Sep 20, 11, 14:55    #79
If i were an American


Apologies i thought you were an American. Not sure where i got that from, it has been a while since i was on comrade :-)
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:02    #80
Apologies i thought you were an American. Not sure where i got that from, it has been a while since i was on comrade :-)

Shchi da kásha píshcha násha!
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:16    #81
half of them probably have paki or black partners :\

thats better than a butt ugly nasty little dwarf like yourself !

anyway stop that sick dreams of yours about paki men
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:27    #82
half of them probably have paki or black partners :\


Almost certainly utterly inaccurate anyway.
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:40    #83
This '3rd world' London you are speaking of, it does subsidise the rest of the UK

Lols....hardly.....the square mile maybe,but as for the rest of it....does it heckers like....
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:50    #84
Lols....hardly.....the square mile maybe,but as for the rest of it....does it heckers like....


Someone has to empty the bins, dear boy.
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 Sep 20, 11, 15:55    #85
Someone has to empty the bins, dear boy.

Yes,but thats why we had Colonies in Keeeenya old chap.
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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy  Sep 20, 11, 17:50    #86
No I am fundamentally against the doctrine of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism in England, there was an English culture and identity long before the mass immigration of the 50s and 60s, long before New Labour shoved the Doctrine Multiculturalism down our throats.

50's & 60's, what about the year 800, lets not even think about BC. The worlds been here a long time mate and for you to think the English have some right over immigration issues in one small part of it frankly defies all logic IMO. Especially considering our heritage. I like to look at the UK as a world leader in multiculturalism and indeed London as a successfully integrated, working, world class - capital city, perhaps the best in the world! London does work very well.

I used to be patriotic in a similar fashion but not anymore, I am English BTW. You are a victim of your environment, a victim of the media, of your parents of your mates down the pub etc etc.... Your attitude leads nowhere im afraid. What we are witnessing now is the natural development of our species, can you look ahead three hundred years and still see England as England? Do you not think the world would have combined its expertise, resources and people and be shooting off into space by then?

Evolution my friend, evolution of the human species. Multiculturalism is a vital part of that process. If we are to call ourselves a civilized species we need embrace multiculturalism not fear it, after all theres nothing to be afraid of.
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 Sep 20, 11, 18:16    #87
I agree with you Wroclaw boy, but, the word can be meant in more than one way.

Taking it at face value, I agree.

It being the term to refer to positive discrimination, laws and customs being circumvented or rewritten purely to satisfy the PC brigade, the encouragement of ghettoism via this, then I think it's a mess and a terrible mistake to be honest.


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