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Mister HThreads: 11
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Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 22, 09, 21:33    #31
markcooper:
The protests outside the BBC studios. Just watched this on BBC News. Can't help but notice but the 500 - 1000 demonstrators..............theyre all...white ! Is this not odd ? Given the BNP's agenda? Sorry to be so un PC - direct but would you not think they would be.........black ? asian ? etc. Why is this ? Also given that Shepards bush is a " multicultural area"

I've noticed that too. It seems to be often the way that people get stroppy on behalf of others without actually finding out if they are indeed offended.

News 24 now reporting that filiming has finished, but Griffin has not yet left TV Centre (probably wondering how best to get him out in one piece).

Now we just wait for QT to be broadcast later.
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Mister H:
News 24 now reporting that filiming has finished, but Griffin has not yet left TV Centre (probably wondering how best to get him out in one piece).

I can not imagine he will be going for a pint in a " local shepards bus boozer / local"
Mister HThreads: 11
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Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂ 		 Oct 22, 09, 22:02    #33
markcooper:
I can not imagine he will be going for a pint in a " local shepards bus boozer / local"

He's surrounded by the various pet thugs that seem to follow him around, so I would imagine he would be safe anywhere !

News 24 are going to be showing excerps shortly......
ShelleySThreads: 18
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Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀ 		 Oct 22, 09, 22:15    #34
Its a joke, he's received more publicity through these idiots protesting than if he had just gone on and been ripped apart by Jack Straw! Im going to be watching at 10:30 tonight, just to seem him squirm, he's not inteligent and no valid arguments...pure entertainment if you ask me!

markcooper:
theyre all...white ! Is this not odd ?

Only one person that was interviewed was white, so you are wrong, what the news.

It also made me laugh that it was mostly brown faces that they interviewed....just adds fuel to the fire for anyone that might lean towards his party...It tickled me the way they kept calling him hitler...he doesnt want to kill anyone, just to repatriate them...As for them going on about them not letting black people in to the party, would that be a little bit hypocritical if he did?

As for him being allowed air time..what about extremist muslims that have been interviewed and said that all those who were not muslims that died in the London bombings deserved it because they were not muslims...where were the protests then?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Get my drift?
TymoteuszThreads: 7
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Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂ 		 Oct 22, 09, 23:31    #35
You should read this and then consider where the UK is in history right now.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30714
Mister HThreads: 11
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ShelleyS:
Its a joke, he's received more publicity through these idiots protesting than if he had just gone on and been ripped apart by Jack Straw! Im going to be watching at 10:30 tonight, just to seem him squirm, he's not inteligent and no valid arguments...pure entertainment if you ask me!

I agree that the protesters should have kept away or at least not caused a problem so everyone could get in and get out. It's been on the news all afternoon. The BNP PR people must be loving it !


It's starting !!!!
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 23, 09, 00:31    #37
That was funny! He made some good points but he blows with the wind. That's the evil side of politics, that you don't follow any convictions that you have but go with what will build on your voter base. They did well in Europe, gaining 2 seats, but I think that he won't have won too many people over with that performance. The coloured woman next to him was an ill-educated baba too.
RevokeLisbon Edited by: RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 00:38    #38
An awful lot of ethnics on the show, not very balanced. NG cannot debate for sh!t, if he stuck to immigration, with facts and figures, he would have nailed this group of shylocks. Has Nigel Farage ever been on? He would have torn them a new hole.

Apparently, because Straw is a 3rd generation immigrant, there will be no controls on immigration. Not now. Not ever. Why didnt NG nail him on that, the fool.
ShelleySThreads: 18
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Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀ 		 Oct 23, 09, 00:38    #39
I quite liked the point that he made to Straw about his father serving in prison for not wanting to fight whilst his father was in the RAF...hilarious...

Seanus:
but I think that he won't have won too many people over with that performance.

Most people that vote for him, dont have any idea about Politics....It actually bored me to be honest...the audience was completely one sided apart from older guy that made a point about Churchill.

Seanus:
The coloured woman next to him was an ill-educated baba too.

Not sure why they had her on to be honest, she was an American and nothing to do with Politics...
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ShelleyS:
she was an American and nothing to do with Politics

I think that's why they had her on. I'd have liked to hear a bit more from her.
RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 00:43    #41
ShelleyS:
Not sure why they had her on to be honest, she was an American and nothing to do with Politics...

She is an afro-supremacist. Read some of her work.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 23, 09, 00:47    #42
Well, that American showed a total disregard of history. One of those bookworms that gets confused too easily and blunders.

Yeah, we rarely get representative samples these days. It would have been good to hear a broader sweep of sentiment, as would be fitting of democracy.

The Greeks would be rolling in their graves :(
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jonni:
I think that's why they had her on. I'd have liked to hear a bit more from her.

She had nothing much to say of interest, I expected him to get ripped apart, he wasnt really, he was just quite pityfull, actually I did find it funny when she said that BNP party members should be worried because the party have to change who they let join lol..

RevokeLisbon:
She is an afro-supremacist. Read some of her work.

Absolutely no interest in some "afro-supermacist" oh my bad, aparently they dont like being called "afro" as pointed by some black women in the audience.
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RevokeLisbon:
ad some of her work.

Her work is good. She's a highly respected playwright.
RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 00:50    #45
jonni:
Her work is good. She's a highly respected playwright.

Yeah, I loved the bit were she claims africans were the original inhabitants of europe. Look up her work, especially the "black madonna."
Mister HThreads: 11
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Seanus:
That was funny! He made some good points but he blows with the wind. That's the evil side of politics, that you don't follow any convictions that you have but go with what will build on your voter base. They did well in Europe, gaining 2 seats, but I think that he won't have won too many people over with that performance. The coloured woman next to him was an ill-educated baba too.

I don't think he would have won many over either. He looked very shifty and uncomfortable and couldn't seem to stop his hands from shaking - he was either nervous or badly needed a drink !

He just kept saying he hadn't been quoted correctly, even when people referred to video footage !

Bonnie Greer was an odd choice for sure, I think that they could have founded someone much more suitable and someone with more of a political connection.

RevokeLisbon:
An awful lot of ethnics on the show, not very balanced.

Are you a character in a 70s sitcom ??!!

And who was it that was really pushing the immigration point and saying that not dealing with immigration properly was the reason why the BNP were doing well ? The black guy in the pinstriped suit !!

RevokeLisbon:
Has Nigel Farage ever been on? He would have torn them a new hole.

Yes, he has been on several times, but they don't just discuss immigration.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 23, 09, 00:53    #47
Yeah, just as well Częstochowa viewers weren't tuned in (home of the Black Madonna). There are many white supremacists there who wouldn't have tolerated her tone. Ah well, let people think.
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jonni:
Her work is good. She's a highly respected playwright.

My question is why did she come here to work with women of ethnic minorities? Were there not enough in America?
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RevokeLisbon:
I loved the bit were she claims africans were the original inhabitants of europe

My ancestors came out of Africa, probably the Rift Valley, along with all other Homo Sapiens. Are you perhaps a different species?
RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 00:56    #50
Mister H:
Are you a character in a 70s sitcom ??!!

And who was it that was really pushing the immigration point and saying that not dealing with immigration properly was the reason why the BNP were doing well ? The black guy in the pinstriped suit !!

What shall I call them? They are ethnic minorities, no? Recent additions to the UK? The black dude was spot on btw.

Mister H:
Yes, he has been on several times, but they don't just discuss immigration.

Is it on YouTube?

Farage is a great debater, he makes the EUnuchs and mass immigration fanatics squirm. Unlike NG, who tonight, was shaking like a leaf.
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ShelleyS:
My question is why did she come here to work with women of ethnic minorities? Were there not enough in America?

At the end she mentioned being the first black person her mother-in-law, "a true Brit", had ever met, so I'm taking that to mean that Bonnie Greer is married to a white British guy.

Bonnie Greer has lived in the Britain for years.
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ShelleyS:
I quite liked the point that he made to Straw about his father serving in prison for not wanting to fight whilst his father was in the RAF...hilarious...

I had a chuckle at that too.

The other panellists were very weak. They were so keen on demonstrating how "right on" they were that they didn't really mentally stretch Nick Griffin.

Having said that, he came across as a bit of a fool who couldn't believe his luck.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Oct 23, 09, 01:01    #53
Bonnie Greer, hmm, a bit like Germaine Greer to me. That name is cursed ;0 ;) ;)
RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 01:03    #54
jonni:
My ancestors came out of Africa, probably the Rift Valley, along with all other Homo Sapiens. Are you perhaps a different species?

Mine didnt. Give us your email address and I will send you a copy of my DNA results. Normans, yes. Celtic, yes. Gaels, yes. Basque, yes. No african though.
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RevokeLisbon:
What shall I call them? They are ethnic minorities, no? Recent additions to the UK? The black dude was spot on btw.

You could have said that there seemed to be a lot of black and asian people in the audience maybe ?

I thought that the audience was pretty mixed actually.

RevokeLisbon:
Is it on YouTube?

Farage is a great debater, he makes the EUnuchs and mass immigration fanatics squirm. Unlike NG, who tonight, was shaking like a leaf.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nigel+farage+question+time &search_type=&aq=4&oq=nigel+farage+

Seems to be, yes.
RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 01:07    #56
Mister H:
Seems to be, yes.

Thanks, he seems to focus on recent arrivals. Smart boyo.

Mister H:
You could have said that there seemed to be a lot of black and asian people in the audience maybe ?

I thought that the audience was pretty mixed actually.

Did it reflect the ethnic make up of the UK. Are 50% of UK citizens non-white? Are the majority of white UK citizens homosexual?
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RevokeLisbon:
Mine didnt. Give us your email address and I will send you a copy of my DNA results. Normans, yes. Celtic, yes. Gaels, yes. Basque, yes. No african though.

From where did they go to the Pays Basque, Normandy etc?

Your ancestors were from Africa. Either that or you're from outer space.
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RevokeLisbon:
Did it reflect the ethnic make up of the UK. Are 50% of UK citizens non-white? Are the majority of white UK citizens homosexual?

Putting the audience together was never going to be an easy job, however, considering Griffin's views and policies, it seems only fair for those asking the questions to be in a position to give him a good run for his money.
RevokeLisbon Edited by: RevokeLisbon  Oct 23, 09, 01:13    #59
jonni:
From where did they go to the Pays Basque, Normandy etc?

Your ancestors were from Africa. Either that or you're from outer space.

My DNA says different.

Either way, what does it matter?

Have an gander at his; http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/47139.html

BEIJING: The finding of a 40,000-year-old human skeleton in China virtually questions the popular theory of "out-of-Africa" dispersal of modern humans.

Researchers at Washington University in St Louis and the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology in Beijing, who have been studying the skeleton, feel the "out-of-Africa" theory may not be as simple as was previously thought.

The "out of Africa" theory has been jumped on by liberals. Recent discoveries suggest differently.
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RevokeLisbon:
The "out of Africa" theory has been jumped on by liberals

Rather jumped on by most scientists


RevokeLisbon:
40,000-year-old human skeleton in China

So you're in fact Chinese by origin?

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