Britain was wrong to allow unrestricted Eastern European migration

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 18:05 #1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/06/ed-balls-europe-im migration-labour Last year Ed Balls said that We were wrong to allow so many eastern Europeans into Britain, I agree with him.

Zman	Sep 25, 11, 19:42 #2
You are free to agree, we are free to ignore you, get a life

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Sep 25, 11, 19:45 #3
Last year Ed Balls said that We were wrong to allow so many eastern Europeans into Britain, I agree with him. Tosser, (Ed Balls i mean): why didn't he say that in 2003, its ohh so easy to say it after, in hindsight and all that. Its all about the timing....... I agree with him too, but its a bit friggen late now hey?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Sep 25, 11, 19:47 #4
well, Eastern Europeans were naive to consider Britain to be part of Europe

SebastianThreads: 8 Posts: 129 Joined: Feb 16, 10 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 19:50 #5
well, Eastern Europeans were naive to consider Britain to be part of Europe Britain is Europe. jeez

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 19:59 #6
why didn't he say that it in 2003, its ohh so easy to say it after I agree, he is a hypocrite. The reason they did it was to please big business and the and major employers and f*ck over the British working classes.

Zman	Sep 25, 11, 21:34 #7
Oh, come on! Our polish expat cleaners, bankers and shop assistants are working for your retirement not ourt!!! You should be happy about it. On a sidenote... I still do not understand why our govt. at leat won't allow poles from BY and UA to settle here freely . They would make their good contribution here as well.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 21:50 #8
I'd look to bankers and recession causers more than Poles who propped up the ailing ancillary job sector before the bottom caved in. Where was the collective British insistence on a referendum on the issue?

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,021 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Sep 25, 11, 23:07 #9
Where was the collective British insistence on a referendum on the issue? how are British people supposed to 'insist' on anything, let alone referenda which never happen anyway.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 23:10 #10
Then what is the point in having a democracy if you aren't going to use democratic tools? Are you a slave? Your country has already been allowed to enter into an unpopular war so what's next?

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,021 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Sep 25, 11, 23:47 #11
Then what is the point in having a democracy if you aren't going to use democratic tools? Are you a slave? Your country has already been allowed to enter into an unpopular war so what's next? well don't ask me Seanus, it's your country too..:) Are we slaves? hmm....well not per se, no. What's next? The entire population indoors having abstract conversations online I expect.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 11, 23:56 #12
I let Nigel Farage do the talking. Weird how the world works. I could say everything that he says yet he's up there with a huge paypacket. Odd.

BBmanThreads: - Posts: 459 Joined: Jan 4, 11 ♂	Sep 26, 11, 05:52 #13
Massive eastern european migration into britain was a mistake. The british government should have let in more indians, pakistanis and arabs. These groups would have contributed more to all aspects of british society and economy.

Unionjack

Sep 26, 11, 08:12 #14

I agree, he is a hypocrite. The reason they did it was to please big business and the and major employers and f*ck over the British working classes.

True. The Class system in England is alive and healthy. They did it to lower working wages and increase profits for the "higher ups". England made a good move by keeping the pound note but screwed up by joining the Eurozone. Britain has always looked West and really hasn't been a part of Europe. England should leave the Eurozone and bring back the common market with/Australia, Canada, South Africa and India.

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Edited by: Sidliste_Chodov Sep 26, 11, 17:14 #15

The Class system in England is alive and healthy. They did it to lower working wages and increase profits for the "higher ups".

True.

As if we didn't know anyway, even the traitors themselves have admitted it now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041593/Ed-Miliband-admits-Lab ours-immigration-policy-DID-drive-wages-living-standards.html

But then you spoil it all by saying:

England made a good move by keeping the pound note

I can't even remember when we last had pound notes :)

and

but screwed up by joining the Eurozone.

We're not in the Eurozone.

England should leave the Eurozone and bring back the common market with/Australia, Canada, South Africa and India.

I think you mean "leave the EU". I hate the EU as much as anyone who hates the EU, but you have clearly forgotten about all the Third World places which the UK would have to support if it returned to its former "Commonwealth" status. You really think that would be any better? lol
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KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Sep 26, 11, 18:25 #16
I say we disband the Commwealth, leave the EU and enter into a trade federation with Holland and Scandinavia or rejoin the EFTA.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Sep 26, 11, 18:57 #17
leave the EU and enter into a trade federation with Holland and Scandinavia They can't just enter into trade federations, it would require approval by the EU. Which isn't going to come. or rejoin the EFTA What, you want to trade with only Liechtenstein, Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland on a free trade basis? Wow. That seems worthwhile.

Sidliste_ChodovThreads: 2 Posts: 683 Joined: Jul 27, 11 ♂	Sep 26, 11, 20:47 #18
What, you want to trade with only Liechtenstein, Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland on a free trade basis? Wow. That seems worthwhile. haha, Iceland :) That reminds me of that line in the Blues Brothers: "Sheeet! They still owe you money, fool!" :) KingAthelstan is clearly not the king of international trade. EFTA?? The "free" bit doesn't mean that we give our money away for free ;)

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Edited by: pawian Sep 26, 11, 22:10 #19

=KingAthelstan]Britain was wrong to allow unrestricted Eastern European migration

Nope. Intelligent Poles who took managerial positions in British companies cleaned the mess that had prevailed there before their arrival. My neighbour who is staying in UK with his family, said he had run into a veritable quagmire of incompetence and inefficiency in his office. But he coped with it due to his skills and intelligence.

Poles saved Britain again.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,767 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Sep 26, 11, 22:12 #20
pawian Poland is the land of red tape. If Poles are so superior, why is there nation a bit of a dump?

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Edited by: pawian Sep 26, 11, 22:30 #21

=RevokeNice]If Poles are so superior, why is there nation a bit of a dump?

This is a mystery to me.

Two possible explanations:

1. War devastated this country like no other. Poles are still recovering.

2. Winters in Poland are much harsher than in Britain. Here everything comes to a stop for 3 months, while in the UK it is 3 days, no more. It is natural that Brits use this time to their advantage.

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Sep 26, 11, 23:14 #22

1. War devastated this country like no other. Poles are still recovering.

Yes, I remember 1945 like it was only yesterday.

This;

It is natural that Brits use this time to their advantage.

Doesnt comply to well with this;

said he had run into a veritable quagmire of incompetence and inefficiency in his office.

As, if they were superior

due to their skills and intelligence

then surely they should be able to function and work through their annual(expected, its not like its a fukking surprise every December) snowfall. No?

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Edited by: pawian Sep 26, 11, 23:22 #23

=RevokeNice]No?

No. :):):):):)

Relax. :):):)

Yes, I remember 1945 like it was only yesterday.

Yes, time flies quickly when we have fun. :):):):)

This Doesnt comply to well with this;

Indeed.

By pointing to logical incongruencies in my posts, you displayed high intelligence. You passed the test. Thank you. Meeting intelligent people on the Net is like powerful aphrodisiac to me.

=RevokeNice] fukking

Can you abstain from swearing? Children might be reading us.

Thank you again.

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Sep 27, 11, 00:04 #24

Poles saved Britain again.

Not putting immigration quotas for Eastern Europe was one of the biggest mistakes any post war British Government ha made. It has really f*cked over the British working classes. Working class Brits can not compete with a Pole who will do a job for half the price. they have stopped wages from rising as much as they would have over the last 7 years. It ha put an immense financial strain on working class Brits involved in manual labour industries such plumbing, bar work, mechanics, brick layers roofers, builders. Allot of new jobs are taken by people registered are reserved for employment agencies based in Eastern Europe.

The Poles now here do not integrate with wider British society, there are Police sign in Reading saying ' Please do not Drink' in Polish.

How would you feel if there was an influx of nearly 1 million low payed working class Moldovans came to Poland within a space of 2 years?

I'm using Moldova as en example of wage disparity between Poland and the UK Poland - Moldova.

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Sep 27, 11, 00:48 #25

How would you feel if there was an influx of nearly 1 million low payed working class Moldovans came to Poland within a space of 2 years?

I'm using Moldova as en example of wage disparity between Poland and the UK Poland - Moldova.

Would not happen because Moldova is not part of the EU, and it wont be in the EU until the next 20 years. And 1 million would mean something like close to 1/4 of all their countrymen-would never happen(:

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,767 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Sep 27, 11, 00:50 #26
Would not happen because Moldova is not part of the EU, and it wont be in the EU until the next 20 years. And 1 million would mean something like close to 1/4 of all their countrymen-would never happen(: Its a hypothetical question. But you know that, as you also know that IF it did happen, there would be blood on the streets.

sixtyseven

Sep 27, 11, 01:05 #27

Last year Ed Balls said that We were wrong to allow so many eastern Europeans into Britain, I agree with him.

Whom who is British and in GB doesn't agree. Even one Polish work collegue is ashamed of the rabble that try their luck here.

This link, an example of typical behaviour, though I tend to see younger one's downing cans in the morning -
feltham.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/2010/03/gangs-terrorise-feltham-reside .html

POLICE are to target gangs of nuisance rough sleepers on the streets of Feltham.
The groups, which range in size from two to five, have been urinating near homes, littering and engaging in noisy drinking sessions - sometimes first thing in the morning. Sgt Sinclair said the homeless gangs are primarily made up of Polish people and there are
language problems when police try to deal with the issue.
Sgt Sinclair said: "There is bad language and they are disturbing the peace for local residents."
The officer was reluctant to give the ages of the people involved, but added: "They are people of an age that should know better - they are not youths."

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,401 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	Sep 27, 11, 06:41 #28
=sixtyseven]This link, an example of typical behaviour, Poles only follow the example of Brits who go on a binge every night. Forgot the Cardiff photos? ):):):):

buffalobob

Sep 27, 11, 07:33 #29

2. Winters in Poland are much harsher than in Britain. Here everything comes to a stop for 3 months, while in the UK it is 3 days, no more. It is natural that Brits use this time to their advantage.

ridiculous. There are no harder winters than in North America and the United States does quite well. Poland's problem is that it was dominated by foreign powers for what 200? 300? 400? years and they never developed a responsible citizenry (it was always the other guys fault).

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: hague1cmaeron Sep 27, 11, 08:01 #30
Its a hypothetical question I don't deal with hypotheticals, I deal with facts(: years and they never developed a responsible citizenry I find Polish citizens to be quite responsible.

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