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The death of the BBC???

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Lir

Mar 27, 09, 14:38 #91

ShelleyS:

How about the 100s that have just lost their jobs

And ?

I feel sorry for anyone who loses their jobs whatever environment they work in.

ShelleyS:

I was merely pointing that no one knows the future of the BBC

Yes, I read that and also I read on BBC News about Fern Brittain and then on another news channel the speculation that she would go and work for the BBC. I can't see what your issue is here quite frankly.

ShelleyS:

one thing I have learnt over the last few years it that nothing is a given in this country and we have lost "iconic" brands one by one and the BBC is no different.

It's the same the world over. Change happens. Sometimes slowly , sometimes more quickly. It's life. So Woolworths has gone , does that mean we shall all suffer greatly because it has done so ?

I have mixed views about the BBC. They have <and may still do so> pay their staff extremely well no matter what job they do there. Jobs were not so easily obtained unless you happened to be an Oxbridge graduate or had been to Public School or had certain contacts. And some very bright and able people could never got jobs there cos they were not in that favoured category.

The BBC can be biased towards a certain Political Party . They should not be allowed to do that. They should be a lot more accountable <and I think it is heading in that direction now> etc etc etc But on the other hand they make some damn fine programmes and touch areas that commercial channels cannot manage to do so because they do not have to make a profit in order to survive. I like the BBC because they don't have adverts but then when a film is on for a long time I would like a comfort break lol.

Maybe the answer is to partly fund the BBC with public funds for certain services and make other parts be sponsored by advertisers so that the licence isn't as expensive as it is. As you say , lots of people pay out for SKy these days and the license is an additional cost which quite a few people don't wish to pay but they have to as it is compulsory if one has a tv set in their home. I do enjoy BBC Radio though and would hate for them to become Commercial Stations.

There's much to debate about the BBC I think !!

:)

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Mar 28, 09, 09:37 #92

Lir:

Jobs were not so easily obtained unless you happened to be an Oxbridge graduate or had been to Public School or had certain contacts. And some very bright and able people could never got jobs there cos they were not in that favoured category.

I'd say that has changed a lot. While we're talking about Fern, it is worth considering that Phillip Schofield worked his way up from a clerk in the BBC by simply pestering at every moment for a chance to do something else. He ended up being the youngest employee in BBC at 17. After a few years in New Zealand he returned and became the first visible presenter on Children's BBC (they never used to have 'presenters').

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	May 18, 09, 08:22 #93
If you want live UK TV you can find it here.... totally illegal as there is no IP geo-blocking on the streams and as such I don't know how long it's going to be around but if you want to give it a go here is the link---> LINK It has all the normal BBC ITV and such like so have fun :)

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07 ♀	May 18, 09, 10:24 #94
ShelleyS: we have lost "iconic" brands one by one and the BBC is no different. What about BBC America? Is that going too? makes big eyes

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀	May 18, 09, 10:56 #95
shopgirl: What about BBC America? I have no idea and couldn't care less, personally I'm sick paying out my license fee for a load of rubbish and repeats!

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	May 18, 09, 11:30 #96
shopgirl: What about BBC America? Is that going too? If it does go, don't worry, you'll still have Al Jazeera. From a news standpoint, they're virtually the same.

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May 18, 09, 11:38 #97

shopgirl:

What about BBC America?
Is that going too?
*makes big eyes*

Regarding the private operation established clandestinely using licence payer's (public) money:

Turnover around £1Bn a year (equal to 25% of the BBC's annual budget), declared gross profit £118M. This equates to roughly 11% return and is sufficient in today's terms to fund 20 Jonathon Rosses

To quote Alan Sugar from "The Apprentice" ...
Quote:
Anyone who runs any kind of business should expect to return at least 20% on gross or stop taking the drugs that make them delusional
The CEO of BBC Worldwide is a follicle deprived bean counter called John Smith (you couldn't make that up), who is also a member of the main BBC board and probably the highest earner in the BBC.

He has no less than seven Managing Directors reporting to him, six more than ITV, they employ 2,500 people in 22 offices situated around the world. Amongst his many notable achievements are the asset stripping of BBC, selling off the family sliver of BBC Technology to German Siemens and BBC Outside Broadcasting to disgraced Australian Wembley Stadium contractors, Macquarie, to help fund his global aspirations

Whilst many people mistakenly think that the BBC don't advertise in the UK, few realise that channels such as Dave and the other UKTV operations are in fact jointly owned by BBC Worldwide. The presence of Jeremy Clarkson on Dave 24/7 probably gave that away to most people :-)

Ironically, it is this attempt to expand by stealth into the UK market that has attracted a great deal of criticism, and the asset stripping Smith is himself facing very real threats to wrest the BBC Worldwide operation from the hands of the BBC and float it off as a separate company.

Perhaps the only thing preventing that at the moment is the appalling annual gross profit, the historic profligacy of the operation and the certainty that licence payer's money won't be available to them to realise their aspirations to dominate the internet as well as broadcasting. That, and the fact that the "kangaroo" project has been cancelled by the government will be the final nail in the coffin for this antiquated organisation.

WroclawThreads: 74 Posts: 7,264 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	May 18, 09, 20:16 #98
ukpolska: It has all the normal BBC ITV and such like so have fun :) Thank you. It looks good.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,181 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	May 18, 09, 20:48 #99
ukpolska: this will make it possible to obtain British TV throughout Europe here goes Eurabia

TrevekThreads: 30 Posts: 2,088 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	May 19, 09, 14:19 #100
ShelleyS: I'm sick paying out my license fee for a load of rubbish and repeats! I remember the old joke about the guy who ended up in court for having no TV licence. He protested that he did... The judge looked and said, "But this licence is from last year." The guy replies, "Well, I thought it would do as most of the programmes I'm watching are from last year too!"

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Jul 8, 09, 08:42 #101
Found this on the net: Just a bit of fun and rather interesting. Make a TV app in m$ Word :) 5 Channels: 1 ITV1 2 ITV2 3 ITV3 4 ITV4 5 ESPN Mobile TV If you want to give it ago you must have Microsoft Word 97 or higher for it to work the Word TV.doc file is only 50kb. Just okay content on top bar if it is not playing. DOWNLOAD: Word TV.doc

Jihozapad

Jul 8, 09, 10:35 #102

Trevek:

What I can't stand on Polish TV is the political programmes. They ar worse than in UK. A bunch of buraks in suits screaming at each other without giving anyone the time to reply. And these guys are supposed to be running the country.

So true! UK politicians may be a waste of space (just like any, really) but at least they generally conduct themselves well on TV... instead of calling each other pier*ole etc on TV as Polish politicians do, lol.

Lir:

ShelleyS:
who knows what the future is!

Fern Brittain does ?

They should pay her less as she fills less of the screen these days :)

anton888Threads: 1 Posts: 103 Joined: Jun 5, 09 ♂	Jul 8, 09, 12:08 #103
[quote=Trevek: What I can't stand on Polish TV is the political programmes[/quote] If you take them serious then I agreed with you. I do think that they are quite interesting, those politicians are much more funnier than comedians! They also give hope to the public, if you are not good enough to do anything, you still have a chance to make a living in politics.

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Edited by: ukpolska Jul 26, 09, 08:04 #104

Another online UK TV site for you http://www.viewtv.co.uk/
And another one:
It works on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. You must have VLC installed to the default location for your platform in order for it to work.

Note: You must run the Linux version inside a terminal.
Download:
hotlinkfiles.com/files/2694837_kgax0/britishtv-windows.zip
hotlinkfiles.com/files/2694836_hrlvs/britishtv-mac.zip
hotlinkfiles.com/files/2694835_skuxf/britishtv-linux32bit.zip
hotlinkfiles.com/files/2694834_wtecp/britishtv-linux64bit.zip

Just in time for the F1 GP today :)
Have fun!

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,455 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:01 #105
As an Irish nationalist I oppose the BBC and its propaganda.

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:15 #106
ukpolska: ukpolska bbc player doesnt work in Poland?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,455 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:16 #107
Del boy: bbc player doesnt work in Poland? You should be thankful.

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:23 #108
right, give me an Irish aggregator then

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,455 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:24 #109
Del boy: right, give me an Irish aggregator then www.rte.ie

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:25 #110
I got a better one http://www.irishblogs.ie/

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,455 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:36 #111
http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/?zx=2dd0c0bb5fcb607c Try this blog.

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Edited by: Del boy Jul 26, 09, 19:39 #112
your link gave me that Content Warning Some readers of this blog have contacted Google because they believe this blog's content is objectionable. In general, Google does not review nor do we endorse the content of this or any blog. For more information about our content policies, please visit the Blogger Terms of Service why?

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:39 #113
Del boy It does if you know how to do it lol

Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 09, 19:41 #114
ukpolska: It does if you know how to do it lol any magic hokus pokus? to sort this out ukpolska?

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: ukpolska Jul 27, 09, 06:23 #115
Del boy No not really just get yourself a VPN for $9 a month and it turns your computer's I.P. address into a UK one. This is the one you want http://cienen.com/sharedip.html Then after that you can watch all the catchup services in the UK; I have my computer linked to my TV.

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Nov 6, 09, 19:40 #116
Free UK VPN's www.vpntool.com/services.php you can use the for the BBC Iplayer, 4OD, ITV Player and Zattoo there is another one here weluvsport.com/ifreevpn.exe

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09 ♂	Nov 6, 09, 22:17 #117
ukpolska: Free UK VPN's www.vpntool.com/services.php Are these guys legit? I've just read terms of use: - Privacy is our number one concern, we will never ask any information that is not absolutley necesary. Hmm, don't wanna be nitpicky, but this doesn't sounds reliable..

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Nov 6, 09, 22:27 #118

frd:

Are these guys legit?
I've just read terms of use:
- Privacy is our number one concern, we will never ask any information that is not absolutley necesary.
Hmm, don't wanna be nitpicky, but this doesn't sounds reliable..

lol who really cares and no of course it is not legit as you are trying to view a service from abroad that it was not intended for; however, I have been testing the VPN and it is quite good and doesn't drop any ms and no timeouts.

Even if you don't want to watch UK TV it is damn good for online banking for example due to the data stream being encrypted.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09 ♂	Nov 7, 09, 00:07 #119
ukpolska: lol who really cares I don't care about the TV.. I was just asking if you'd tested this little thing ;P and wondering about safety of other uses. Thanks for providing the info..

TyskieThreads: 1 Posts: 30 Joined: Mar 2, 09 ♂	Jan 5, 10, 17:23 #120
WarsawNoob: Just wait until you have American style TV, with tons and tons of commercials and almost every program aimed at the lowest common denominator. You'll reconsider the value of your tv license. I agree absolutely. Where did this directive come from? Why should it have been agreed upon? The BBC is great and has a high standard. Let's home this doesn't destroy a great institution.