EEA family permit - time and process

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Jan 6, 10, 16:40 #1

Hello,
I am from pakistan I was in UK on a student visa but I was removed from uk because I work more than 20hours...but I got married with a polish girl she was my girl friend when I was in UK after I removed from UK she came to pakistan last month and we got married and I apply the EEA family permit in Pakistan before 1 week we have all the prove that we a genuine husband and wife and we have all the evidence and every single prove that we contact on daily basis can any buddy know about it can I get a EEA family permit or not and how it will take time to process?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 16:50 #2
zaheerali84: I was removed from uk And then you married a Polish girl....are these two events connected...?

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Jan 6, 10, 16:51 #3
zaheerali84: EEA family permit For where? I am assuming for the UK, taking into consideration you violated your visa restrictions (were an economic migrant rather than a genuine student), and were removed from the UK, your chances are slim to none.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 17:05 #4
dumb polish byatch. let her stay in P-stan

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Jan 6, 10, 17:08 #5
McCoy: dumb polish byatch. let her stay in P-stan She's already back in the UK, why do you think he wants an EEA family permit?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 17:16 #6
Hello zaheerali84Threads, Here is the UK Visa Bureau (click here) Good luck.

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Jan 6, 10, 17:36 #7

zaheerali84:

can I get a EEA family permit

Given that you've recently been removed from the UK, it is extremely unlikely that you will be given any kind of visa at all to enter the UK for a considerable time.

It will take between two and three months for your visa to be processed at a British consulate in Pakistan and the answer will almost certainly be "no". And they will keep on saying no.

Frankly, with a history like yours, you'll be lucky to get permission to reside in Poland, let alone the UK.

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Jan 6, 10, 17:51 #8

SeanBM:

Good luck.

He'll needed it, he's blacklisted by the UK immigration system from getting any kind of visa (hello! he was removed from the country!) the fact his wife isnt British, let alone a British citizen wont really help him a great deal in getting an EEA family permit for the UK either - best off going to Poland or her to Pakistan - after all, Im sure he doesnt care where they are as long as they are together...

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 17:55 #9
Amathyst: her to Pakistan preferable option Amathyst: Im sure he doesnt care where they are as long as they are together... damn right

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,994 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 17:57 #10
Amathyst: I'm sure he doesnt care where they are as long as they are together... I really shouldn't have laughed out loud when I read that. But I did. Anybody else feeling sorry for this girl?

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Jan 6, 10, 17:59 #11

zaheerali84:

I was in UK on a student visa but I was removed from uk because I work more than 20hours...

Maybe if you hadn't broken the terms of your visa you wouldn't be in this situation (assuming you are being honest and not just trying to stir up trouble).

You were removed from the country. Take the hint !

Amathyst:

Im sure he doesnt care where they are as long as they are together...

Yes, it's a real heart-warming tale isn't it !

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 18:02 #12
Harry: Anybody else feeling sorry for this girl? Yep...i hope i am wrong , but i feel she is probably going to regret this marriage , and will be unable to get a divorce as her husband has disapeared to another country to try his luck....If he really does love her i wish him luck...he is going to need it...

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 18:06 #13
wildrover: as her husband has disapeared to another country to try his luck if shes lucky hell leave her before making her pregnant

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Jan 6, 10, 20:29 #14

McCoy:

if shes lucky hell leave her before making her pregnant

That might be a bit difficult unless she has the cash to keep going back to Pakistan...Dont think he's going to pay her flight costs...certainly not when he finds out that he has nothing to gain and her being pregnant wont make a damn difference to his case...

Harry:

I really shouldn't have laughed out loud when I read that. But I did.

YOu think I had a straight face when I wrote it?

Harry:

Anybody else feeling sorry for this girl?

Of course...Maybe she thought it was romantic and love will triumph over all instead of the reality.

Marry in haste repent a leisure!

Also the OP, her going off to Pakistan to marry you after you were removed has probably hindered your case more than helped...They wont view it favourably, thats for sure, Brits have to note their intention to marry when going abroad to a non EU country to marry a non EU member...

http://www.polishforums.com/polonia-uk-ireland-31/getting-married-poli sh-citizen-uk-10464/10/

Post 399 is a cracker :D

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Edited by: king polkakamon Jan 6, 10, 20:33 #15
zaheerali84: she came to pakistan last month and we got married and I apply the EEA family permit Did you pay a lot? I cannot understand why polish girls do this.Why do they exploit EU regulations to make money.When the English throw you out,you will cry?

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 12:15 #16
Amathyst: Post 399 is a cracker :D Yes, yet another contribution of the "first post" variety.

MoonlightingThreads: 60 Posts: 307 Joined: Apr 28, 07 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 12:33 #17
Amathyst: Maybe she thought it was romantic and love will triumph over all instead of the reality. Stop it! It makes me laugh, then I'm distracted from work and have stomach ache. ;-) king polkakamon: I cannot understand why polish girls do this. Ignorance. No massive Thirld world/Muslim immigration in Eastern Europe unlike in the West.

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 13:53 #18
Moonlighting: Ignorance. No massive Thirld world/Muslim immigration in Eastern Europe unlike in the West. It is not ignorance.It is deeper.These girls know exactly what is going on.I have read polish forums and they desribe the situation accurate.So they just try to exploit the system.They sell EU membership to third wordlers consciously.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Jan 7, 10, 14:05 #19
king polkakamon: These girls know exactly what is going on. Not only Polish girls: http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2009/decembe r/bogus-bride-jailed-fake-marriage

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Edited by: king polkakamon Jan 7, 10, 14:10 #20
Polish girls are probably the cheapest for immigrants.The latter simply cannot afford the rest. There is also great offer. Really if sth like that happened in Greece and polkas gave citizenship to albos this way,there would be big problem.I mean big problem for polkas. To me this behaviour is like sh1tting the UK.

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Edited by: delphiandomine Jan 7, 10, 15:17 #21

Amathyst:

the fact his wife isnt British, let alone a British citizen wont really help him a great deal in getting an EEA family permit for the UK either

It would help him - he's entitled to it.

But as he's got 'history' in the UK, it's unlikely he'll get it now - they really are clamping down on 'fake' students. I think educational establishments now have to keep records of attendance for non-EU citizens?

Anyway, if he really loved her, he'd happily live with her in Poland!

(...)

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Jan 7, 10, 15:23 #22

delphiandomine:

It would help him - he's entitled to it.

If she is not settled in the UK, he is not entitled to anything.

delphiandomine:

- they really are clamping down on 'fake' students.

They clamped down some time ago, why do you think students are heading to Poland...Wont be long before "Business Schools" are littering the streets ;0)

delphiandomine:

I think educational establishments now have to keep records of attendance for non-EU citizens?

Colleges have to be registed and monitored and low attendance by students reported - colleges have to "sponsor" students and are liable for fines if the do not comply, hence the reason the OP was found out.

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 15:37 #23
You cannot play with the English.Another lesson Poles will learn soon.

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Jan 7, 10, 16:10 #24

Amathyst:

If she is not settled in the UK, he is not entitled to anything.

She doesn't have to be. The permit is issued to someone who intends to travel to the UK with their spouse - exercising their treaty rights. It can also be issued to someone who intends to join their spouse in the UK. Essentially, any EU/EEA/CH citizen is entitled to have their family join them in the UK.

Of course, they're perfectly entitled to refuse the granting of the EEA Family Permit if they believe it's a marriage of convenience.

Amathyst:

They clamped down some time ago, why do you think students are heading to Poland...Wont be long before "Business Schools" are littering the streets ;0)

Poland is quite tough on non-EU nationals though - and let's not forget, dark skin in Poland = target for passport controls. Unlike the UK, passport controls can be done *anywhere* in the country - I've seen dark skinned people pulled out on the train several times and checked.

Amathyst:

Colleges have to be registed and monitored and low attendance by students reported - colleges have to "sponsor" students and are liable for fines if the do not comply, hence the reason the OP was found out.

Makes perfect sense - wasn't there quite a large industry round false students?

(the poor girl involved with this!)

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Jan 7, 10, 16:22 #25

Amathyst:

Brits have to note their intention to marry

Can anyone tell me more about this....If i were to marry a Russian lady , what would our status be.... The marriage will take place in Moscow , and we will reside in Poland...

I am a British citizen , and have been registered as a resident in Poland for five years.....What would be her position as my wife ...as regards her needing a visa to live in Poland , work in Poland , or visit the UK with me to see my family....

Do i need to notify somebody of my intention to marry a Russian even if we do not intend to live in the UK , and who do we notify...?

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Jan 7, 10, 17:29 #26
wildrover: What would be her position as my wife She would need a visa to come to the UK regardless of the fact she is your wife, she is a none EU member. I think some Brit on here married a Ukrainian lady whilst he was living in Poland - cant remember his name though - might be worth doing a search. So when is the big day? You have met havent you?

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Jan 7, 10, 17:38 #27

wildrover:

I am a British citizen , and have been registered as a resident in Poland for five years.....What would be her position as my wife ...as regards her needing a visa to live in Poland , work in Poland , or visit the UK with me to see my family....

Poland should be quite straightforward - you have a right for her to live with you in Poland. Likewise, she's entitled to exercise her rights through you. It'll be a pain in the ass with all the paperwork, but should be quite easy and painless.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/visitingtheuk/gettingmarried/certific ateofapproval/

Doesn't seem that you have to bother in this case.

wildrover:

Do i need to notify somebody of my intention to marry a Russian even if we do not intend to live in the UK , and who do we notify...?

Check out what the Russians want - they might want the same nonsense "certificate of no impediment" which is possible. But no, you don't have to bother telling anyone in the UK.

Amathyst:

She would need a visa to come to the UK regardless of the fact she is your wife, she is a none EU member.

She needs the EEA Family Permit, which isn't the same thing. It's possible that it will be scrapped sooner rather than later - the UK has wrongly interpreted the EU directive. But anyway, it's a painless administrative detail to get if the marriage is all above board.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 18:48 #28
Amathyst: So when is the big day? Oh , its not going to happen just yet....i am just checking out the just in case situation in case it gets serious...we are having a weeks holiday together in Ukraine in the spring , so that will give us a chance to decide if its what we think it is....

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Jan 7, 10, 20:36 #29

zaheerali84:

I am from pakistan I was in UK on a student visa but I was removed from uk because I work more than 20hours

Good. As you got caught cheating the system I hope you never get a visa. Why do you want to come back to the Uk?Why not stay in your own country with your family or Poland were your wifes family live ? Or you do have other motives for wanting to return?
Answers on a post card.........

Sorry for ranting but people like that **** me off..Dobranoc

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,572 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Jan 7, 10, 21:25 #30
g60edition: Or you do have other motives for wanting to return? Given that he was already working over 20 hours a week in the UK, it's pretty obvious that he's just after residency in the EU and the UK in particular.

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