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Irish Times: Irish workers warm to Warsaw


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David_18Threads: 111
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Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂ 		 Dec 24, 10, 15:36    #1
Six years ago, Poles in Ireland vented their anger at the dearth of jobs in their own country. Now with no banking crisis, no bubble, and a growing economy, Poland is attracting ever-greater numbers of Irish migrants.

Some in the GAA club have come to Warsaw to work, though many have come to study veterinary medicine. All agree that Poland is as good a place as any to be at this moment in Irish history. “A lot of my friends have lost their jobs and left Ireland for Norway, France or Germany. So it’s actually easier to see them based here,” says Aoife Cahill, a 25-year-old from Burnfort, in Cork. “I knew Polish people in Ireland, and they encouraged me to come here. It’s worked out really well. There’s a lot more Irish here than you’d think.”

Morgan says Polish emigration raised awareness at home of this central European country, but many Irish are still surprised by the scale of the place. At about 312,000sq km it is bigger than the UK and has a population of about 40 million. Such size brings opportunities, he says, particularly for small and medium-sized companies.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/1224/1224286221976.ht ml

What goes around comes around right?

I can't wait untill the Scots and Brits do the same ;)
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Dec 24, 10, 16:03    #2
David_18:
I can't wait untill the Scots and Brits do the same ;)

Lazy journalism for lazy journalists.
The Brits who moved to Poland.
jonniThreads: 26
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Harry:
Lazy journalism for lazy journalists.
The Brits who moved to Poland.


One small article, so many untruths. I actually know a couple pof the people named in the article, and it just isn't true.
SeanBMThreads: 41
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David_18:
What goes around comes around right?

Great!
TorqThreads: 65
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David_18:
At about 312,000sq km it is bigger than the UK


Even Guinea and Ecuador are bigger than the UK. Poland is bigger than Italy.

As for Irish coming to work in Poland - bring them in! We can even take all 4 million
easily (they are the lost tribe of Poles anyway, so they'd fit in perfectly :))
jwojcieThreads: 3
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Joined: Jan 3, 09 ♂ 		Edited by: jwojcie  Dec 25, 10, 01:11    #6
^^
I'm not quite sure it is a good idea. It seems that Poles just learned how to stop drinking in the right moment... All that Irishmans would take us back to the "vodka in glasess" culture again ;)
HarryThreads: 62
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jonni:
One small article, so many untruths. I actually know a couple pof the people named in the article, and it just isn't true.

Same here. And the people I know all deny saying what they're quoted as saying. I was actually in BB the one night that hack came in and told her to **** off because I knew damn well she had no interest in the truth.
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There might be a small influx of Irish opportunistic, entrepreneur's and venture capitalists, taking advantage of the ultra cheap work force(2 euro minimum wage) but, as for people moving to Poland on a large scale looking for employment, is sensationalist journalism.
A single person can get in Ireland up to 14000 euro a year on the dole, while the the average industrial wage in Poland is 7500 Euro.
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David_18:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/1224/1224286221 976.ht ml

What goes around comes around right?

I can't wait untill the Scots and Brits do the same ;)

Will never happen, i know you should never say never but im saying never, never the less.

Harry:
Lazy journalism for lazy journalists.
The Brits who moved to Poland.

I remember that article, i think the journalists source was primarily 100% Polish Forum and then whom ever she bumped into along the way. I declined.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Dec 26, 10, 16:32    #10
Will the Irish be greeted with colcannon? ;) ;) It's easy to make for Poles :) Or will they just be met with 'thanks for the jobs, you're on your own now'?
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Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀ 		 Dec 26, 10, 18:14    #11
this -17 weather has caused havoc, i have slightly modified the lyrics, to help the song truly relate to Ireland at the moment.

Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are bursting
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
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Poles and Irish in Warsaw. Nice

now, i really wouldn`t be surprised to get information about Ratko Racow`s shelter in that abandoned Serbian embassy
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Merged thread:
The irish are coming

According to the WSJ, the Irish are leaving Ireland in their droves and Poland is one of the top destinations.

DUBLIN—Ireland is facing a wave of emigration on a scale unseen since the 1980s, as young people desperate for work turn their backs on an economy ravaged by debt crises, high unemployment and tough austerity measures.
A new report by the Economic and Social Research Institute, a leading Dublin-based think tank, said 100,000 people are expected to leave Ireland between April 2010 and April 2012. That averages out to roughly 1,000 a week, or more than 2% of the population.

In the 1950s, thousands of laborers and semi-skilled workers left Ireland for the U.K., then in the grip of a road-building boom. In the 1980s, with unemployment running at 15%, public finances in disarray and the economy stagnating, some 200,000 emigrated. "Unlike in the 1950s, many of these were well-educated and highly-skilled," says Dr. Barrett. That wave peaked in 1989, when 44,000 left Ireland, according to ESRI.
Emigration began to tick up again in the postboom period, with 35,000 leaving from April 2009 to April 2010. ESRI said 60% of these were non-nationals—migrants returning home—and 40% indigenous Irish.
The main destination for those leaving Ireland in 2010 was the U.K., which absorbed some 14,000 Irish immigrants. The next most-popular destinations were the newer EU member states, including Poland and the Czech Republic. EU members France and Germany came in third. Some 23,000 went to other countries, including Australia and New Zealand, and a modest 2,800 moved to the U.S., according to figures from Ireland's Central Statistics Office.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703921504576094201825868 600.html
DavidODwyerThreads: 5
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Have to say maybe its just where I live but alot of people are choosing to go to Australia, I know about 12 people who left and are gone to Australia. None who have left Ireland for another country.
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DavidODwyer:
choosing to go to Australia, I know about 12 people who left and are gone to Australia


warszawski:
Some 23,000 went to other countries, including Australia and New Zealand


warszawski:
35,000 leaving from April 2009 to April 2010. ESRI said 60% of these were non-nationals—migrants returning home—and 40% indigenous Irish.


I have been noticing larger numbers of non - poles over the last 6 months or so.
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just in time for paddy's day, niiiiiiiice.
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smurf:
just in time for paddy's day, niiiiiiiice.


Its hard these days to get a good pint of Genius in Dublin... Just follow the toucan !
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warszawski:
Its hard these days to get a good pint of Genius in Dublin


hahhaa, go to the 51 pub, all the auld lads drink it there, it's amazing.
I now 2 places in Kato that have good guinness, they keep the keg under the counter so the line is short and it keeps the pint tasting frech
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Interesting film there PennyBoy, its a tragedy when families are split up over financial situations. The people interviewed only wanted to find jobs overseas to pay off their loans. The banks are responsible for the debt crisis, I am sure the same thing is going to happen here in PL, at least twice a week we receive unsolicited calls or mailings tellings us we have been approved for loans, that we have not applied for.


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