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Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland.

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Aug 14, 10, 18:12 #91

ColonelBlimp:

Agreed, I've gone from far-left to middling right - and it's hardly surprising that so many immigrants come to the UK to do the jobs that the British won't do. From what I can see, the natives would rather sit at home watching crappy daytime TV (or crappy anytime TV for that matter), eating junk, swigging cheap alcohol, claiming benefits and at the same time complain that the Poles have taken all the jobs.
It depresses me to visit the place now, but hopefully I shall never have to set foot there again.

Blimpy, you got it so wrong. People in the UK cannot often afford to work for minimum wage as they have council tax, mortgages/rent, shopping bills etc to deal with. Poles and other foriegners on the other hand tend to live in larger groups of people and do not want to settle in the country and therefore can afford to work for minimum wage. A brit on benefits has council tax sorted and rent paid for.

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Edited by: Seanus Aug 14, 10, 18:22 #92

Welshguy, good last post.

To address the penultimate one, I agree on the road part. British roads are 'streets' ahead of roads here. Only very rarely did I need to swerve when out on my bicycle. Here, it's constant vigilance.

As for the tv part, it wasn't my intention to do a comparative study ;) ;) Poland has lousy tv too, even worse in fact when it comes to soaps. However, this is what I expect as this part of culture is often boring here, no offence to resident Poles, but it is. It reaches new levels of monotony. However, British tv is full of reruns and repeats that dull the mind.

PS Point taken about the dancing. There is an obsession about physique here.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 18:29 #93
What nonsense! This is a perpetuated myth! Question to the Brits here. How secure do you feel in your own country in terms of job and personal aspects?

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Aug 14, 10, 18:44 #94

So foreigners living in Poland are sick of their homeland because of the foreigners.
Am i getting this right?
What about multicultural cities all over the world, that we all love to go to because of their ancient complexity.London, New York etc
If you left England in the sixties(PF guys) and came back would you leave again because of the Pakistanis and Caribbean's?
Poland is all white, because its poor and not, because of some Polish internal strength.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 18:48 #95
I wouldn't count myself as being in that bracket, milky. I can have a good time in my home city regardless of the numbers of any foreigners. We have to accept the bad with the good in life. I do feel that there are too many foreigners but we can't and shouldn't engineer a society to precision. You open the floodgates and you accept the consequences/side effects.

milkyThreads: 10 Posts: 1,019 Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀	Aug 14, 10, 18:53 #96
Seanus: You open the floodgates and you accept the consequences/side effects. Agree but the floodgates were opened a loooooooong time back. After the flood. From reading this thread is does sound very reactionary and a bit too far to the right.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 19:00 #97
True, true! However, it takes some time for things to manifest themselves and for the full effect of one mass movement to take hold. The initial reaction is amazement but then the different realities kick in.

welshguyinpolaThreads: 31 Posts: 450 Joined: Jan 9, 08 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 19:10 #98
milky: Poland is all white, because its poor and not, because of some Polish internal strength Thank god someone said it finally. If Poland becomes significant in the world there is nothing the government will do to stop the fllods of ppl

AvalonThreads: 3 Posts: 708 Joined: Sep 11, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 19:18 #99
welshguyinpola Thank god someone said it finally. If Poland becomes significant in the world there is nothing the government will do to stop the fllods of ppl Then I hope that Poland never progresses, if the price to be paid is the same as whats happening in the UK.

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Aug 14, 10, 19:24 #100

Most Poles do not want multiculturalism. They are prepared to allow freedom of religion, just so long as things don't begin to spiral out of control. They have no need to worry because Islam only constitutes 0.07% of religion here.

Poland is ill-equipped for mass immigration and shouldn't be burdened with it unduly. Yes, I feel they can't complain if other EU nationals enter Poland as Poles have done to the UK. Fair's fair! However, they have the right to control it as they just can't pick up the tab.

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Aug 14, 10, 20:40 #101

welshguyinpola:

I am assuming your career as a MHN is rather a calling, sth you are passionate about? How could you have ever entered this in Poland?

I wouldn't have. I am very aware of the set-up in Poland and I wouldn't work under those conditions, plus the pay is sh1t.
It's a calling yes, but that doesn't mean it is the only job im passionate about. I'm also employed for an international company based in Krakow at the moment and I will most likely return to full time with them. As well as a few other "projects" I have in mind ;)

welshguyinpola:

Beacause I was brought up speaking English and I have the UK to thank for this

Good English teachers who are Poles can make just as much as their "Native" counterparts ;)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 20:45 #102
Seanus: They have no need to worry because Islam only constitutes 0.07% of religion here. Yes...but it was that way in the UK....some time ago...!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 20:49 #103
Oh, there are signs that Islam will be the dominant religion in Europe in 2050 but resistance, in this case, is not futile. Poland will fight its expansion and has done so in Warsaw.

dtaylor5632Threads: 48 Posts: 4,348 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 20:51 #104
Seanus: Question to the Brits here. How secure do you feel in your own country in terms of job and personal aspects? very...

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Aug 14, 10, 20:53 #105

I didn't get the impression this thread was about Islam in the U.K.

The recession seems to be a major issue too ...

Wroclaw Boy:

What can i say the UK is not what it used to be, it is the same only a lot, lot worse. Theres no work, nobody has any money, everybody ive spoken to has said the same. Its all doom and gloom,...

Just cant believe how bad this country (UK) is, foreigners everywhere and im not talking Poles and the scum society. Atleast Polish poor people have manners.

After four and a half years in Poland i feel more at home there than here.

Just for the record i heard UK roads were bad but i never believed it till know, they are bad, not in a pot hole sense but just through wear and tear, the shopping centres are old and tired, so many issues.

This country has well and truly gone to the dogs. Dont even get me started on ugly overweight people, thats a whole new thread.

Wroclaw Boy:

The UK chopped my child benefit, ive paid taxes here my entire life even since ive lived in Poland, i always had a UK LTD company, im totally p1ssed right now. They can fcuk right off. Being British doesnt mean anything unless youre a foreigner, they (foreigners) work a few years and get child benefit for 16 years. I was honest and they now want the money back like £600, should have lied, but i shouldnt have to.

Its all wrong.

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Aug 14, 10, 21:00 #106

I honestly believe that its going to end in bloodshed in the UK and other countries...

The Muslims are having bigger familes , at a faster rate than the people they live amongst , and sooner or later there will be enough of them legally living in the EU to demand changes in the laws etc...

At this point there will be protests from the non Muslims , and it will end in violence...

I fear that the Muslims are not going to be truly satisfied until they beheading people on the streets of Europe for non compliance with their rules...

Already we have a situation where you cannot fly a UK flag or wear an army uniform for fear of upsetting somebody....

The UK is going down the toilet , and i fear that one day somebody is gonna flush it...!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 21:07 #107
Bring some Serbs and Russians and you will see some improvement.

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 21:09 #108
allacces1: 30 million hungry poles coming here surely did not help, did it? well... Democracy is a sham, nobody really knows who is in charge, maybe banks or maybe somebody else, but one fact is certain they don't give a damn about nationality or general population and that goes for most country's! Poland;s roads are rubbish - and I blame government- ******* pricks! I-S (well?)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 21:09 #109
Oh right...a civil war...that would be a good idea...or not..!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 21:12 #110
wildrover: Oh right...a civil war You need the immigrants and the muslims multiply like rabbits due to social norms.

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Aug 14, 10, 21:21 #111

but sure the uk always sucked ass, first it was the irish ruining it
http://howd.ie/fA1ab74

then it was black people

sure it's common knowledge that ye lot had signs in your windows saying,
No Irish
No Blacks
No Dogs

up until the 1970s

Then you moaned about the Indians and the Pakistanis and the others that came as a result of ye "spreading civilisation" and colonising half the feckin planet.

Now, its the turn of the Muslim to take the brunt of english xenophobia.

instead of moaning about it ye should be getting your idiotic conservative(nazi) govt to begin programmes to try and promote intergration, but you wont, you haven't learned from your mistakes in the past (those bastard in the IRA), you've got the same situation all over again, if you keep making mistakes you should at least try to learn from them.

Ireland hasn't got the same problems with muslims as the uk has and why is that? coz we're so used to being on the wrong end of racism that we're far more open to other religions and cultures, something the uk has never ever been.

rant over....

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 21:38 #112
I don,t care what race , colour or religion anyone who comes to the UK is , as long as they obey the laws of my country , don,t suck money out of the place without putting something in , and don,t try to change my country into one that suits them...

rychlikThreads: 51 Posts: 442 Joined: Aug 6, 08 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 22:41 #113
Mark my words. The time for western Europe to fall is almost here. If there will be civil wars, they will happen in western Europe first. Slavs will live on- lead by Poland. Poland will be one of the last major Christian nations left in continental Europe. Poland knows this. America knows this. Western Europeans are soft and weak. Poles have some p'iss n' vinegar left in them ;)

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Edited by: aphrodisiac Aug 14, 10, 22:53 #114

smurf:

coz we're so used to being on the wrong end of racism that we're far more open to other religions and cultures, something the uk has never ever been.

well said.

wildrover:

I don,t care what race , colour or religion anyone who comes to the UK is , as long as they obey the laws of my country , don,t suck money out of the place without putting something in , and don,t try to change my country into one that suits them...

oh, come on, you are not even there, the only people who are ruining your country are the people who are stealing your apples at the moment.

Is WB still in the UK?- he might change his mind.

Recession not the immigrants are the cause of frustration.

Mark my words. The time for western Europe to fall is almost here. If there will be civil wars, they will happen in western Europe first. Slavs will live on- lead by Poland. Poland will be one of the last major Christian nations left in continental Europe. Poland knows this. America knows this. Western Europeans are soft and weak. Poles have some p'iss n' vinegar left in them ;)

where do you get this stuff in your head like this? Polish Prophet from Toronto ;)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 23:24 #115
aphrodisiac: oh, come on, you are not even there, does not change my views...i will always be English....

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 23:31 #116
Again i read some more rubbish posted by Crow, once again i'm laughing while sitting at my computer, if any of his rubbish even stands a chance of coming true i will eat every item of clothing i own!!!!

aphrodisiacThreads: 19 Posts: 3,907 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Edited by: aphrodisiac Aug 14, 10, 23:32 #117
wildrover: does not change my views...i will always be English.... what does that have to do with anything you said? Again, nothing personal, I am not sure what it means to be English. The same as being Muslim or Indian by any chance?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 23:38 #118
aphrodisiac: what does that have to do with anything you said? Well..its just that being English means i care about England...even if i am not living there....

aphrodisiacThreads: 19 Posts: 3,907 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Aug 14, 10, 23:39 #119
wildrover: Well..its just that being English means i care about England...even if i am not living there.... oh, that. I understood something different, of curse you care about your country.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 10, 23:40 #120
I also care about Poland...because its where i live....

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