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keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 23, 10, 23:38 #1
I don't disagree with Polish being here in the majority, but we all do know, that some Polish are exactly "does what it says on the tin". I know some Polish and they are wasters, but I also know some that are hard working, and are trying to integrate....

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06 ♂	Apr 23, 10, 23:55 #2
I'd be happy to discuss, but can't be bothered as in 3 posts mutual slagging off will develop. Some dailyfail bullshit will be copypasted; some outdated/irrelevant data will be presented; women on both sides will be called sluts; etc. So no, thanks. Starcraft is WAY better ;)

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 00:49 #3
lol,couldn't agree more....about time someone actually told it how it is instead of trying to "skirt and moan about each other".

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:08 #4
Still, we're here to help... :)

Drac90Threads: 2 Posts: 120 Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:08 #5
Third reply, still peacefully :D please keep trouble makers in UK :( we dont want them in Poland as much as You :(

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:09 #6
There is great potential for parternship, if only the arrogance and stereotypes are dropped. Breaking the linguistic barrier helps too as it allows you to tap into their way of thinking. The problem is that idiots will always ruin things and turn it into a competition but common ground is there to be found.

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Apr 24, 10, 01:18 #7

keen111:

but we all do know, that some Polish are exactly "does what it says on the tin". I know some Polish and they are wasters, but I also know some that are hard working, and are trying to integrate....

Sure,but we all do know, that some British are exactly "does what it says on the tin". I know some British and they are wasters, but I also know some that are hard working, and are trying to integrate....
Wanna talk some more?
Hey what's up Seanus ma friend?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:23 #8
Well, many Brits are lazy and unmotivated but it's all about opportunity. The problem is that many Brits see Poles are inferior and many Poles reckon they are the best at so many things. There is naturally going to be tension. Still, some can rise above that and make things work. It just needs some ego dropping.

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Edited by: TIT Apr 24, 10, 01:25 #9
grubas: I also know some that are hard working, and are trying to integrate.... we all know the brits in poland teach us english mostly and some do business poles in uk are different story, if they earn money, save and invest thats good for everybody, if they spend hard earned cash on buzz or banging hookers or expensive cars :) - thats no good

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 01:32 #10
Drac90: please keep trouble makers in UK :( we dont want them in Poland as much as You :( Is that still peaceful, or edging on some debate?? :-D

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:32 #11
That's true enough! Look, if the will and desire are there, Poles and Brits (esp Scots) get on really well. Humanity transcends nationality and striking a chord just needs the right conditions and drive.

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Apr 24, 10, 01:34 #12

TIT:

we all know the brits in poland teach us english mostly and some do business
poles in uk are different story, if they earn money, save and invest thats good for everybody, if they spend hard earned cash on buzz or banging hookers or expensive cars :) - thats no good

Oh,so the the Brits are good and the Poles are bad huh?And you people want to talk?I don't talk to someone looking down at me.All I can tell him is "Fudge you".

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 01:36 #13
grubas: Wanna talk some more? I'll talk some more, I am British I am JIEB qualified, which means I am an Insolvency Practitioner. I have what it takes....Do you??

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:43 #14
no grubas: Oh,so the the Brits are good and the Poles are bad huh? no the not clever one will loose, doestn mater your nationality btw i am a pole( a fcuking true pole - kaczynski's beliver )

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 01:52 #15
There are many smart people and many stupid people in any country.

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 01:56 #16
That is correct so why (in my experience and of Poles that I know) do we attract as the UK, the plebs amongst them? (bar the few that actually do make the effort...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 02:04 #17
They are utopian idealists, aka drifters ;)

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,390 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 02:09 #18
keen111: I am British I am JIEB qualified, which means I am an Insolvency Practitioner. Oh so you are British,now I am so impressed that I am speechless.

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 02:11 #19
grubas: Oh so you are British,now I am so impressed that I am speechless. I Couldn't give 2 sh*ts what you are matey boy, I have earned what I have, I am qualified in what I am,,,,and you are the one wanting "to talk some more", and saying we are uneducated, so therefore, why bring an argument on yourself, if you can't back it up correctly apart from your sarcastic comment above??

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Apr 24, 10, 02:14 #20

Seanus:

The problem is that many Brits see Poles are inferior

In replying to a previous poster.

Which is almost beyond irony or parady considering:

The million or so Poles who have come here in the past five years definitely came to work. They are three times more likely to be law-abiding than the average British resident, and the 134 Polish Catholic churches are packed. The most dreaded words for a Polish priest are not "mortal sin", but "fire regulations".
True, many Poles now go to school here, are treated by the NHS and some receive child benefit, but only three per cent are eligible for other subsidies. There is an extra burden on local health and education authorities and police associations: many of these social costs however are covered by their £1.9 billion a year contribution to the Exchequer in income tax and national insurance, and that figure does not include their contribution to council tax.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3556852/Why-Britain-needs-Polish-mi grants.html

Hopefully this will satisfy you, so in summary they are more law abiding than the natives, harder working than the natives, do not claim as much benefit as the natives and according to this more intelligent than the natives, those with the thick accents anyhow. SO ALL YOU TEACHERS OUT THERE TAKE NOTE!

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and this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6062088/A-level-results-Polish-st udent-beats-language-barrier-to-win-uni-place-to-study-English.html

And lets not forget whose economy is on the up, and whose economy is going down the tube. I use to think that all this stuff by Gibbon about the Delcine and Fall was hard to believe, but looking at Britain, there is no better example!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 02:18 #21
Yes but that wasn't my point. My point was perception and Brits will almost always see themselves as superior.

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 02:20 #22
hague1cmaeron: Hopefully this will satisfy you, so in summary they are more law abiding than the natives, harder working than the natives, do not claim as much benefit as the natives and according to this more intelligent than the natives, those with the thick accents anyhow. SO ALL YOU TEACHERS OUT THERE TAKE NOTE! What about all the scumbags here then??

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 02:20 #23
Seanus: Yes but that wasn't my point. My point was perception and Brits will almost always see themselves as superior. what the populus think doesn't matter

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Apr 24, 10, 02:24 #24

Seanus:

always see themselves as superior.

They use to be, until they developed a fetish for a party that couldn't elevate the ordinary, so it decided to pull down the 'extraordinary'. Good old social engineering, what Stalin did not manage to do to the Poles, Labour has managed in Britain!

keen111:

What about all the scumbags here then??

They must be exporting them, if you actually have seen them around.

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Apr 24, 10, 02:25 #25

sluchaj ty szmato angielska wez sie odwal i nie obchodzi mnie kto do mnie jeszcze napisze dla mnie jestes zerem, i ja mam swoja szczesliwa rodzine mi nie przeszkadza to ze mieszkam z mama a moj radek jest biedny, mi to pasuje wole byc z nim niz z toba , nie zaluje ze tak sie stalo bo ty jestes szmata , taki dusigrosz to tylko nieszczescie .ja kocham swoje zycie a ciebie nienawidze !!!!! pasujecie do siebie z ta kath brzydki ty brzydka ona!!!!!!!!!!!a ode mnie sie odwal spojrz w lustro zobacz wkoncu jakim trolem jestes
Off topic but what are you keen111? a transvestite?No offence I am just asking question coz you say you are female and this person write to you like you are male.

keen111Threads: 4 Posts: 120 Joined: Sep 29, 09 ♀	Apr 24, 10, 02:26 #26
I knew this post would spark digression, gotta love it...Same old debates!!

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Apr 24, 10, 02:32 #27
hague1cmaeron: They use to be, until they developed a fetish for a party that couldn't elevate the ordinary, so it decided to pull down the 'extraordinary'. Good old social engineering, what Stalin did not manage to do to the Poles, Labour has managed in Britain! same thought as Ortega y Gasset's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolt_of_the_Masses

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Apr 24, 10, 02:41 #28

Seanus:

Yes but that wasn't my point. My point was perception and Brits will almost always see themselves as superior.

I am sure there is plenty of room for cooperation. Here is a good example.

Cambridge appoints top doctor as new vice-chancellor
Leszek Borysiewicz, who was instrumental in developing the cervical cancer vaccine, will take over in the autumn

Leszek Borysiewicz, Cambridge university's new vice-chancellor

Sir Leszek Borysiewicz, one of the country's most respected medical researchers, was today nominated as the 345th vice-chancellor of the University of Cambridge.

He will succeed Alison Richard, the current vice-chancellor, when her seven-year term comes to an end next autumn.

Borysiewicz, a Welsh-Polish doctor by training, was instrumental in the development of the HPV vaccine, which is now offered to all girls to reduce the risk of cervical cancer. He is head of the Medical Research Council, the main funding body for medical academia in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/nov/26/cambridge-appoints-new -vice-chancellor

TIT:

same thought as Ortega y Gasset's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolt_of_the_Masses

Interesting, i think i will take a closer look.

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Apr 24, 10, 09:25 #29

There are many clubs that bring together people from our respective communities. It is worth remembering that ties go back a long way and have continued for good reason. Anyway, another salient point is that we both excel in science. Information sharing and working for the collective benefit of mankind is a noble pursuit when discussing this area. Let life not be a competition but a collaborative project.

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Apr 24, 10, 10:10 #30

keen111:

I am British I am JIEB qualified

keen111:

I Couldn't give 2 sh*ts what you are matey boy, I have earned what I have, I am qualified in what I am,,,,and you are the one wanting "to talk some more", and saying we are uneducated, so therefore, why bring an argument on yourself, if you can't back it up correctly apart from your sarcastic comment above??

Actually he only repeated what u said in the first post but changed Poles to Brits. There was nothing about whole nation being uneducated, just stating the fact that in every nation (so British too as well as Polish) there are some nice people and those as u call them "scumbags".

grubas:

I know some British and they are wasters, but I also know some that are hard working, and are trying to integrate....

keen111:

What about all the scumbags here then??

Well, nothing, i guess. What should be about them. Perhaps they should be deported as it is being done in Australia when someone commit a crime.

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