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rt3dThreads: 18
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Who are you going to Vote for on the 6th..
and can this be done at the Warszawa UK Embassy...



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Mister HThreads: 11
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rt3d:
Who are you going to Vote for on the 6th..


I'm still not sure. I live in Hove & Portslade (a Labour marginal) and all I do know is that I won't be voting Labour as they have disappointed me way too much down the years.

To get rid of the sitting Labour MP (Celia Barlow), I would have to vote Tory (something I have NEVER done).

rt3d:
and can this be done at the Warszawa UK Embassy...


Not sure, but I would hope that it would be easy for you to vote. Did you not think to arrange a proxy or postal vote ?
RevokeNiceThreads: 21
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rt3d:
Who are you going to Vote for on the 6th..
and can this be done at the Warszawa UK Embassy...


British emigres can vote from abroad?

You learn something new every day.
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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RevokeNice:
You learn something new every day.

i think they can if they are still resident in the UK, IE live there for a certain amount of time.
voice of reasonThreads: -
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BNP. Mass unwanted Immigration is destroying this country. Control immigration, withdraw from the EU and start putting our own people first rather than unwanted (by the vast majority of the British people) Muslims, Eastern Europeans, Asylum seekers and the countless illegal immigrants who are putting immense strain on public services, we don't want them here and the sooner we stop this invasion the better.
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Is voice of BNP supporters - 0,7% - a voice of reason?
rt3dThreads: 18
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But this cannot be fully accomplished with out educating undeveloped country
and investing in them for better opportunity.. let alone government politics and corruptions
and this my friend will cost a bomber..

also do not forget, we as a developed country depend on them
unless E.G we bring back Manufacturing back into the UK...and not Outsource them for cheap labor to india.. or fair trade ..but even then we need materials..LOL

By the way the BNP hasn't suggest how they will accomplish and Control immigration..
this is very difficult...
szkotja2007Threads: 38
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Scottish National Party.
They have made great achievements since they came to power in the Scottish Government.

Its shameful that in this election the London based BBC will not allow them the same amount of television exposure as the English based unionist parties.
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I wasn't aware the BRITISH election was any business of unwanted (by the vast majority of British people) Polish migrants, a Million voted BNP in last years European elections, maybe the fact we are swamped with unwanted immigrants and are forced to pay the EU £45 Million per day to be foreigners in our own country influenced their decision.
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voice of reason:
I wasn't aware the BRITISH election was any business of unwanted (by the vast majority of British people) Polish migrants


I am not a polish migrant and never will. But don't you feel that the PF is not a best place for BNP agitation?

Just a voice of reason.
hague1cmaeronThreads: 21
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rt3d:
Who are you going to Vote for on the 6th..
and can this be done at the Warszawa UK Embassy...


If I could most definitely Conservative! That is the only full proof way of getting rid of this dreadfully incompetent Labour government, voting Lib Dem could prolong Labour's time in power.

Mister H:
To get rid of the sitting Labour MP (Celia Barlow), I would have to vote Tory (something I have NEVER done).

Take the plunge, seriously things cannot possibly get any worse, there is a hell of a lot of hard work ahead with the huge budget deficit and if you elect Labour, they will just increase taxes and prolong the recession.
IronsideThreads: 59
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do you think that nowadays democracy works?
and what will change if conservative will be voted to power?
hague1cmaeronThreads: 21
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Ironside:
do you think that nowadays democracy works?
and what will change if conservative will be voted to power?


No I do not, not in Britain anyway. Probably the majority of people are guided by prejudice when they vote or purely image, hence the increase in Lib Dem support.

Initially not a lot, considering the huge mess they will have to clean up. However they will bring a lot more competence into government, and they will be a lot more honest than Labour.
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szkotja2007:
Scottish National Party.
They have made great achievements since they came to power in the Scottish Government.

Its shameful that in this election the London based BBC will not allow them the same amount of television exposure as the English based unionist parties.


You have got to be joking, do you know any difference between SNP and Labour? Both are centre left parties and have the same approach to government, it's just that the BNP spends more money than Labour, not the smartest thing to do when you're up to your eyeballs in debt.
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szkotja2007:
Scottish National Party.


Them left wing zealots will make you a minority in your own country.

You will never gain independence, by the way.
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RevokeNice:
a minority in your own country.


See the positive side. According to your own filosophy, minorities have all the rights, so that would mean you would have all the priviledges.

:)

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
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I cant stand any of them personally. If we had something new and refreshing with different attitudes i'd be interested.
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If our treacherous government didn't swamp this country with immigrants be they Polish, Somali, legal due to the corrupt EU or illegal due to our obsession with multi culturalism but who quite simply refuse to integrate and are openly anti British (and the Poles are amongst the most hostile and most anti British of immigrant groups in this country) we wouldn't give the BNP shithouse room, let alone 2 MEP's, if our government put us first and Poles that live in UK weren't so disrespectful and full of animosity to this country the world in general would tick over just that little bit better. Immigrants should adapt and Poles refuse to show any respect to this country.
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MareGaea:
See the positive side. According to your own filosophy, minorities have all the rights, so that would mean you would have all the priviledges.


Ah, but the question is, will todays minorities, tomorrows majority, afford us the same rights the present majority affords them now.

Heres Jon Stwearts take in "bigotgate". Very funny.

http://tv.gawker.com/5528164/jon-stewart-mocks-the-laughable-tameness- of-british-political-scandals
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RevokeNice:
Ah, but the question is, will todays minorities, tomorrows majority, afford us the same rights the present majority affords them now.


It's not the majority that grants rights. It's the government. Since, according to you, the current government allows the minority to become the majority, one can assume that it will be still the same government in place. Plus the facts that "rights" implies law. And laws don't change that easily.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
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hague1cmaeron:
hague1cmaeron

I dont know what your post refers to - you seem confused with the BNP and the SNP.

RevokeNice:
You will never gain independence, by the way.

Why not ?
voice of reasonThreads: -
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Ask any British person if they really want uncontrolled immigration.
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szkotja2007:
Why not ?


Because the majority of us right thinking Scots will vote against it.
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Cardno85:
Scots will vote against it

Why ?

How can we hope to have a well informed Scottish electorate when the parties broadcast at a so called "leaders debate" all have a Unionist agenda ?
RevokeNiceThreads: 21
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szkotja2007:
Why not ?


The day Iceland went bankrupt, was the day Scotish independence died. Iceland was one of the small nations the SNP pointed to as inspiration for an independent Scotland(and boy did they bang on about Iceland!).

A lot of those on the fence made up their minds that day.
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RevokeNice:
Iceland was one of the small nations the SNP pointed to as inspiration for an independent Scotland(and boy did they bang on about Iceland!).

Think ur mixing up Iceland with Norway.

I don't recall any speech by Alex about being like Iceland.
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dtaylor5632:
Think ur mixing up Iceland with Norway.

I don't recall any speech by Alex about being like Iceland.


Nope, I meant Iceland.

The Scottish First Minister and SNP leader Alex Salmond had held up Iceland as a small country enjoying the kind of boom economy that Scotland could aspire to copy. Before the country's banking system collapsed, Mr Salmond suggested that Scotland could join Iceland, Ireland and Scandinavia in an "arc of prosperity". That provoked a scathing retort from the Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy who claimed that it would have been an "arc of insolvency".

And the Scottish Labour MP Anne McGuire claimed: "The risks of independence have never been more starkly highlighted. While families, savers and businesses in Scotland will be relieved that the UK Government has stepped in support RBS and HBOS, they only need to look at Iceland to see what would happen to an independent Scotland. Alex Salmond's fantasy economics held out Iceland as a model for Scotland. We can now see how dangerous that idea was. Scottish families, banks and businesses are far more secure as part of the fourth-largest economy in the world than if Scotland were to separate itself from the UK."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/warm-words-for-iceland ic-boom-return-to-haunt-salmond-961399.html
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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It over 2 years old. Hardly follows the policies of today.

Stop being jealous that Scotland could be a country who gets independence from the UK without having to use force ;)
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dtaylor5632:
It over 2 years old. Hardly follows the policies of today.


You completely missed my point, well done.

dtaylor5632:
Stop being jealous that Scotland could be a country who gets independence from the UK without having to use force ;)


Jesus, what are you on about now?

Id like to see the union disbanded, but I just dont see it happening. Thats my opinion.
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szkotja2007:
BNP

I posted a B instead of an S, big deal, i am sure you knew exactly what i was on about.

Cardno85:
Because the majority of us right thinking Scots will vote against it.

szkotja2007:
BNP


If that is the case why do you right thinking Scots keep on voting Labour all the time? the most pro immigration party in parliament apart from the Lib Dems, the SNP is also quite in favor of immigration.

I you want a party that is serious about immigration without resorting to the loons like BNP and UKIP, who will never get in power, YOU HAVE TO VOTE CONSERVATIVE THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!

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