A Mexican-Polish citizen is moving to UK by summer 2011

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Mar 12, 11, 13:45 #31

Wroclaw Boy:

Its our UK benefit system, its not for lazy as$ Poles that know every trick in the book to come over and abuse

To be fair, it's not just Poles, it's the whole bloody world, they're coming from all corners of the globe to abuse the system. A lot of Poles work and pay taxes here, I'm sure they are equally pissed off with their countrymen abusing the system, especially as we are suffering huge cuts to pay for this abuse. we are getting worse from other countries.

Ironside:

It actually make you a dog, I refuse to be a dog and growl at the dogs from a neighbourhood because they pick few of my master leftover !
He doesn't care.

First they are not leftovers, secondly they were paid for from the taxes of the British workers. The country now has a huge deficit because of all these generous welfare payments, the country is broke and people are losing jobs because of it. There will be fewer tax payers to fund the benefit cheats.
The whole point of the welfare state was, you paid in while you were fit and able and in work, to pay for a safety net for any time in the future you were unable to support yourself. Now it's being abused by people who have never paid in and they're too thick to realise that the cash cow is about to die because of it.

If you took out an insurance against unemployment, would you allow someone who has never bothered to pay into an insurance scheme to claim off of your insurance?

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Edited by: Ironside Mar 12, 11, 13:52 #32

Wroclaw Boy:

theres nothing double standard about it,

Oh really? Abuse is abuse, murder is murder regardless of nationality, do you have a problem with that?

Wroclaw Boy:

Plenty.

bring it on!

Wroclaw Boy:

Polish mates? yeh thats right.

Do you have Polish mates abusing the UK benefits system? Are you their helper by any-chance ?

Wroclaw Boy:

It all comes down to money, perhaps you have money, in which case you wouldnt need to cheat a system for the green stuff.

What do you mean by need to cheat? I do not feel that need at all.

Wroclaw Boy:

Many of your fellow patriots do not.

Many but not all, I would say that is minority bye and bye !

need to go

Wroclaw Boy:

youre a bit of an idiot

Cause I'm not a cheat like you ?

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Mar 12, 11, 14:12 #33

Daisy:

The whole point of the welfare state was, you paid in while you were fit and able and in work, to pay for a safety net for any time in the future you were unable to support yourself.

The whole point of the welfare state is to tax people additionally under the guise of support those in need. In fact those monies are used by politicians to support themselves and their cronies by benefits and all those governmental programs are the way to buy voters or shut up discontented.
They may use those monies for others ends as well. To justify empty coffers, they let the system to be abused be that by lazy or crooked citizen or crooks, lazy asses from EU nationals, or by refugees abusing system and so on......
In fact above examples are just excuses for the empty coffers, in fact government spends most of it as it spends all monies from taxes - for their ends and some murky issues - definitely not for a good of the people!
The way it should be: People should get paid more monies and they shouldn't be entitled to benefits. They could take care for themselves (privet insurance or other means) or depend on charity of the strangers.

really need to go now

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Mar 12, 11, 14:37 #34

Ironside:

I also, think that all this haggling and fighting over benefits is like fighting over a scraps and leftover from a master table!
It actually make you a dog, I refuse to be a dog and growl at the dogs from a neighbourhood because they pick few of my master leftover !
He doesn't care

I agree with you, however, uncontrolled mass-immigration leaves us with the dogs.

The majority of decent immigrants with skills and a desire to fend for themselves have probably already been and gone having earned enough money to build or buy a house "back home".

Those that have stayed and are not reliant on state handouts here are keeping themselves under the radar.

The majority of those that stay contribute little to the economy and cost millions.

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Mar 12, 11, 18:46 #35

Mister H:

The majority of those that stay contribute little to the economy and cost millions.

that's such a rubbish sweeping statement, and goes against any kind of personal knowledge I have of immigrants, old and new.

Yes there are losers and "dogs" who take advantage of our system. The biggest and laziest losers I have ever met, however, have sadly been fellow English. Three generations on benefits, and the expectation of council housing as a "right", and no intention of ever contributing anything except to the workload of social services.

People I have met from other countries, including Poland, have genearlly been hard working and determined. The only ones I really object to are Big Issue selling Romanians, and Albanian pimps. Sadly British people cannot make these observations without being labelled as "racist" by screaming Bliarites.

I merely report what I see...:)

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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Mar 12, 11, 18:50 #36

rozumiemnic:

I merely report what I see...:)

But youre also biased as youre married or in a relationship with a Pole.

rozumiemnic:

that's such a rubbish sweeping statement

everything is a sweeping generalization with such scenarios, are all Jews tight fisted bastads - no, but many are, much more so than other nations.

Above you singled out Albanian pimps and magazine selling Gypos, see youre just as bad as us.

rozumiemnicThreads: 4 Posts: 1,021 Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀	Mar 12, 11, 18:55 #37
Wroclaw Boy: Above you singled out Albanian pimps and magazine selling Gypos, see youre just as bad as us. hahaha you caught me!! But did I say "Gypos"? Noooo I don't think I did!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Mar 12, 11, 19:08 #38
rozumiemnic: hahaha you caught me!! takes one to know one, gotta love those sweeping generalisations

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Edited by: Mister H Mar 14, 11, 18:55 #39

rozumiemnic:

that's such a rubbish sweeping statement, and goes against any kind of personal knowledge I have of immigrants, old and new.

It's what I deduce from my dealings with the immigrant community. There are, quite simply, far too many foreigners in the UK now and a significant amount are the dregs of society.

rozumiemnic:

Yes there are losers and "dogs" who take advantage of our system. The biggest and laziest losers I have ever met, however, have sadly been fellow English. Three generations on benefits, and the expectation of council housing as a "right", and no intention of ever contributing anything except to the workload of social services.

I agree that there is a home-grown problem of British people on benefits that have so many children as a result of various different "relationships" that they are more like litters than families. The difference is that they are our citizens (unfortunately) so we either take their benefits away from them or let the madness continue.

I'd start by putting something in the water supply to all the council estates to make them all sterile.

rozumiemnic:

People I have met from other countries, including Poland, have genearlly been hard working and determined. The only ones I really object to are Big Issue selling Romanians, and Albanian pimps. Sadly British people cannot make these observations without being labelled as "racist" by screaming Bliarites.

The Guardian and The Mirror have a lot to answer for.

rozumiemnic:

I merely report what I see...:)

So do I ........

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