Plantation of Ireland.

RevokeNice:

80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. Ever hear the term Plastic Paddies? How many Irish citizens are living abroad?

RevokeNice:

SeanBM
80 million can return to Ireland whenever they wish? Is David McWilliams a fool? He argues the same point. These people have Irish blood, Irish ancestry, and many of them have an interest in Irish customs and traditions, our culture and language. They view themselves as Irish.

RevokeNice:

There are millions of Poles abroad, much more so than Irish.

RevokeNice:

A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony.

RevokeNice:

Thats what we have here, a Polish plantation in Ireland.

In politics and in history, a colony is a territory under the immediate political control of a state.

Ireland32:

Hi Paddies.....hows she cutting today? How you getting on with the planty thingy majig?

I am organising spot checks at the airports and ports of our great nation. We are stopping anyonr with a shovel, pick or spade that look as if they have the intention of planting any sort of objects on our soil.

So far we have nothing to report but its early days yet.

I see we have the same comedian on again tonight.

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RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 02:28 #281
Kapusta As I said it is a hobby not a business investment. You would want to be mad to invest in Spain. I created jobs for locals in Spain and pay them well above other bars in the area. I am not in it for profit. Myself and my cousin went in on it with two Spanish friends who run the bar for 365 days a year. I plough profits back into the bar as it is my pride and joy. Eventually I will buy a couple of bars in Dublin. This is a learning curve for me, my apprenticeship, if you will. I do not know how you can compare this to Polish shops in Ireland, its absurd.

BritishEmpireThreads: - Posts: 175 Joined: Apr 26, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 02:57 #282
Iam all for enterprise if its needed, but if you could only operate that bar because you undercut the locals then i would think your a complete a**.

ZIMMYThreads: 4 Posts: 871 Joined: Feb 21, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 03:17 #283
Just another technical comment; Poles are central European, not east European although that is often mistakenly stated. What's the name of your bar in Spain? I heard it's called "Little Polonia".

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 03:22 #284
ZIMMY Ireland for the Irish. ;) BritishEmpire I pay them two euro more than other bars in the area. They are allowed a few beves after work if they so wish, sweat beers. Meals are also provided for those working over four hours. They can order from the menu once they do not take the ****. Hardly exploitation is it.

SeanusThreads: 17 Posts: 17913 Joined: Dec 25, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Seanus Jun 22, 09, 12:32 #285
RevokeNice This whole debate is showing the difference between practicalities and a religious approach. Check out what is said at about 3 mins into this discussion, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPgwkjVixvI Practicalities, however, may call for some action to be taken. It's important to take a balanced approach and look at the bigger picture. The reality is, you have little leeway to change things, short of pulling out of the EU. Please watch the presentation above (the Youtube one). Immigration and the economy are central topics. Listen to it in its entirety, he'll open your eyes to many things. Sorry, immigrants are needed and it is the fault of government that they didn't impose quotas or upper limits.

daffyThreads: 40 Posts: 2162 Joined: Feb 5, 07 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 13:24 #286
RevokeNice: Ireland for the Irish. ;) What a plonker ;) Ireland for all! Regarding the plantation of Ireland - It happened. Much wrong was committed on both sides As with alot of old history, the stronger side at the time won Many abuses followed. peoples divided. only in the past 15 years have we really seen moving on from this?

SeanusThreads: 17 Posts: 17913 Joined: Dec 25, 07 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 13:37 #287
The government and people have to allow for natural occurences to take place. Anyone who knew the dynamic at the time in Poland, prior to accession to the EU, could have predicted the exodus to the UK and Ireland. There's no use in crying over spilt milk.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 16:29 #288
daffy Ireland for all? Cop the fook on. We cannot absorb the world. We need the unemployed eastern euros to go home. One TD suggested paying them to return to their own nations. But we would they? Polands foooked too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNC-Jj3WOjA

scarbyirp	Jun 22, 09, 17:13 #289
RevokeNice: We need the unemployed eastern euros to go home. Maybe you can head up north and join up with the loyalists (from the ulster plantation) and break some windows? You can start first with the Romanians, then work your way down the street to the Poles, don't forget the Nigerians, and then why not some Chinese (not the chip shop windows though). RevokeNice: One TD suggested paying them to return to their own nations. Isn't this straight outta the BNP manifesto?

Grzegorz_Threads: 67 Posts: 5552 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Jun 22, 09, 18:46 #292
SeanBM: You are great, completely delusional but great :) True. He's my hero. I will invite him to my plantation... RevokeNice: Grzegorz_ I would say there is easily 200,000 Poles here. In Ireland there have never been more than 130-150k Poles at the same time. Now It is max 80-90k. RevokeNice: 50,000 of which are on the dole. Prove It.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 18:51 #293
SeanBM What has a poster from over 100 years ago got to do with present immigration controls? Look you nut, Polish immigration into Ireland is the equivalent of 1,600,000 Irish moving into Poland over a three year period. Its pure madness. We made an error by allowing them free access to our workforce. Time to rectify that error. Here is what I propose, revoke the free movement of labour for the accession states and issue a work permit scheme, those who are in present employement are exempt, those who are on the dole given one months welfare payments and a one way ticket home. Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit. If nobody in Ireland or the "old" european states(the other 14), then and only then, can an employer search for applicants in eastern europe. Grzegorz_ I have posted links more times than I care to remember. So, you reckon over 300,000 Poles went home? I find that very hard to believe. Theres 90,000 in Dublin easily, they are everywhere. Time to put a stop to this free for all.

Grzegorz_Threads: 67 Posts: 5552 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 18:56 #294
RevokeNice: Theres 90,000 in Dublin easily Prove It. BTW I'm moving to Dublin in 3 months.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:02 #296
Grzegorz_ The countries foooked, mate. Watch out though, a lot of shady characters around. You might recognise some of them. ;) http://www.independent.ie/national-news/polish-man-sought-over-murder- still-in-country-1765342.html http://www.argus.ie/breaking-news/national-news/man-held-after-murder- of-polish-national-in-co-down-1775968.html All from this month. Also on the news now, another polish national in court over knocking down and killing some girl in his car while under the influence. Ah yes, the joys of mass immigration from Poland.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 18:28 #290
scarbyirp Socialist Spain and Germany do the same both countries have paid foreigners to come home once they understand that they cannot come back for up to five years. You are not permanent residents in my nation, you are guest workers. No work, go home.

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 22, 09, 18:42 #291
daffy: Regarding the plantation of Ireland - It happened. Much wrong was committed on both sides This looper is not talking about the plantaion, he is talking about his xenophobia, he is a nut. RevokeNice: No work, go home. Reminds me of something...

Ireland32Threads: 3 Posts: 247 Joined: Feb 23, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: Ireland32 Jun 22, 09, 19:02 #295
RevokeNice: Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit. Ah I see the therapy is working well.....NOT. Didnt you try the weedkiller yet ? Question - What is your position on the illegal Irish in America who do not have a visa to work there? Do we take them all back? Let them join or dole queues?

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 22, 09, 19:02 #297
RevokeNice: Plantation of Ireland. RevokeNice: What has a poster from over 100 years ago got to do with present immigration controls? You are the one calling it a plantation, which it is clear to everyone except you that it is not and you are shaming yourself by calling it such. You are shaming yourself by not knowing what that poster represents. RevokeNice: immigration into Ireland is the equivalent of 1,600,000 Irish moving into Poland over a three year period. There are 80 million Irish people living out of Ireland. Talk about tipping the scales, we are possibly the biggest load of immigrants today in the world. RevokeNice: We made an error by allowing them free access to our workforce. No, you needed the work force and messed up the economy and are now looking for a scapegoat with NO proof. RevokeNice: Here is what I propose, revoke the free movement of labour for the accession states and issue a work permit scheme, those who are in present employement are exempt, those who are on the dole given one months welfare payments and a one way ticket home. Anybody who wishes to move to Ireland from the accession states must apply for a work permit. Here is what I propose, dig a very deep hole and climb in. RevokeNice: I have posted links more times than I care to remember. Your links are full of crap. RevokeNice: Time to put a stop to this free for all. No Irish need apply? you are some cowboy. RevokeNice: The countries foooked, mate. And it is only yourself to blame. You still don't get it do you RevokeNice, you are talking to a load of Paddies on here, we ALL disagree with you because you are wrong and you are showing yourself to be a right nutter and a little amusing.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 19:06 #298
SeanBM 80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. Ever hear the term Plastic Paddies? How many Irish citizens are living abroad? There are millions of Poles abroad, much more so than Irish. My links are from respected sources. All Irish broadsheets. A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony. Thats what we have here, a Polish plantation in Ireland. You are all paddies with Polish girlfriends, therefore biased , without mass immigration you lot would be still single. Polish girls, one hand on your balls, one in your wallet.

Ireland32Threads: 3 Posts: 247 Joined: Feb 23, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:12 #299
SeanBM: you are talking to a load of Paddies on here Hi Paddies.....hows she cutting today? How you getting on with the planty thingy majig? I am organising spot checks at the airports and ports of our great nation. We are stopping anyonr with a shovel, pick or spade that look as if they have the intention of planting any sort of objects on our soil. So far we have nothing to report but its early days yet. I see we have the same comedian on again tonight.

NathanThreads: 2 Posts: 826 Joined: Feb 13, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:13 #300
RevokeNice: Polish girls, one hand on your balls, one in your wallet. ;)

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 22, 09, 19:14 #301
RevokeNice: 80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. Ever hear the term Plastic Paddies? How many Irish citizens are living abroad? RevokeNice: SeanBM 80 million can return to Ireland whenever they wish? Is David McWilliams a fool? He argues the same point. These people have Irish blood, Irish ancestry, and many of them have an interest in Irish customs and traditions, our culture and language. They view themselves as Irish. Ha ha ha, you are changing, first they are Irish, then they are plastic paddies ha ha ha. RevokeNice: There are millions of Poles abroad, much more so than Irish. Ha ha ha ha absolutely NOT. In 1995, President Mary Robinson reached out to the "70 million people worldwide who can claim Irish descent."[53] Today the diaspora is believed to contain over 80 million people.[54]From here again RevokeNice: A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony. Is not what it is, you are not all there. RevokeNice: Thats what we have here, a Polish plantation in Ireland. Rubbish In politics and in history, a colony is a territory under the immediate political control of a state. from here Can you not see that noone believes a word you say, only a true nutter thinks it is everyone else NOT himself and boy do you fit the name nutter. Ireland32: Hi Paddies.....hows she cutting today? How you getting on with the planty thingy majig? I am organising spot checks at the airports and ports of our great nation. We are stopping anyonr with a shovel, pick or spade that look as if they have the intention of planting any sort of objects on our soil. So far we have nothing to report but its early days yet. I see we have the same comedian on again tonight. ha ha ha ha, ah it is worth it just for the laugh that gave me :) [quote=RevokeNice: You are all paddies with Polish girlfriends, therefore biased Sure you are the only paddy in the world, we don't count and neither do the 80 million others. Wow you got some loony ego.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:17 #302
SeanBM Id rather the plastic paddies here instead of the Poles. At least the plastics have a bit of Irish blood in them and some interest in the country. The Poles view us as an ATM. Tell me, how much money have you lent this bird of yours? Her friends? Her family?

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Jun 22, 09, 19:19 #303
RevokeNice: Tell me, how much money have you lent this bird of yours? Her friends? Her family? You are wasting your time there ha ha ha did a Polish bird dump you?. She learned how to speak English, then realised what a looper you are and left you ?. RevokeNice: 80 million claim Irish ancestry. So what? That does not mean they are Irish. RevokeNice: Id rather the plastic paddies here instead of the Poles. At least the plastics have a bit of Irish blood in them Ha ha ha, nutter.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 19:20 #304
SeanBM I wouldnt touch one with yours. Czech, Irish, and South American girls leave the Polish ones in the halfpenny place. I have little to do with Polish invaders. I avoid shops and bars that employ them, I barely speak to them in work unless I have too.

Ireland32Threads: 3 Posts: 247 Joined: Feb 23, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:20 #305
SeanBM: did a Polish bird dump you?. I think she may have dumped in his mouth and its all coming out now !!!!!

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:22 #306
Ireland32 Tell me, did your Polish girl take your virginity? Did you cry after?

PiorunThreads: - Posts: 727 Joined: Nov 11, 07 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:23 #307
RevokeNice: A plantation- An original settlement in a new country; a colony. Relax and enjoy.

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:24 #308
RevokeNice: I wouldnt touch one with yours. that word should be "couldn't". RevokeNice: Czech, So what is the difference between a girl from Czech and a gilr from Poland? how can you tell them apart?.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:26 #309
SeanBM Czechs have class. Good people. They immigrate here in sensible numbers. No problem with that. They are not too fond of Polskis either. Bang on in my opinion. They integrate.

SeanBMThreads: 37 Posts: 5406 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:26 #310
RevokeNice: Bang on in my opinion. So what was her name?.

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:27 #311
SeanBM What are you on about?

Ireland32Threads: 3 Posts: 247 Joined: Feb 23, 09 Gender: Male	Jun 22, 09, 19:27 #312
RevokeNice: Tell me, did your Polish girl take your virginity? Did you cry after? No a girl from Galway did ! Maybe you know her. They are all easy over that neck of the woods. Got an awful rash after it too !!

RevokeNiceThreads: 19 Posts: 1450 Joined: Jun 20, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: RevokeNice Jun 22, 09, 19:29 #313
Piorun No, no I will not. Whats there to enjoy? Poles being an economic burden on my country?