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 Apr 27, 11, 11:43    #91
gumishu:
this is what I figured from various distant sources too - and I wasn't even vaguely researching the topic


It was pretty much the NUM's fault - their leader had openly declared that he intended to bring the Government down, the workers themselves did no-one any favours by resorting to violence towards "scabs" and so on.

What people seem to forget is the power that the union had over politics - this is what Thatcher declared war on, not the industry itself. Exactly the same battle will be had with Solidarność in years to come.

Wolf  Aug 7, 11, 15:46    #92
Yes Polish exploit the british welfare system, they are all jumping on the band waggon of getting pregnant for tax credits/benefits................none of these people ever contemplated having children until they came to the uk ....and the truth is there are more polish births in the uk than in poland ....AND THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF BENEFITS AND NOTHING MORE.
Wolf  Aug 7, 11, 16:02    #93
How many times now have you heard about Polish or Romanian or some other eastern european gang who have extorted millions out of the british state,if the government told the truth instead of covering up for their own immigration fiasco , then there would not be a need for all these losses of jobs and cuts in services,the whole thing backfired on the polish coming here and taking advantage because most lost their jobs as i told them they would.My view is that these cutbacks are a direct result of the heavy burden that immigrants and asylum seekers etc have put on the uk .Its not poland fault that they have a rubbish closet communist government who wont pay good rates of pay etc, but its also not other countries responsibility to bail out foreign people who dont have work or are low paid...........THIS IS THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS PROBLEM and its time that all other governments took responsibility for their own countries people instead of trying to use other countries governments to medicate their people .
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 Aug 7, 11, 16:58    #94
Closed communist government? That's absolute garbage, wolf! PO have increased the gap between the rich and the poor, they are no communists.

Quite a few did extort money right enough and I've heard Poles admit it firsthand. Why? Because they told me that they felt Britain owed them for the betrayal from WW2.

I also take your point about the Polish government needing to hike up salaries. Yes, they are incrementally rising as GUS stats show but nowhere near in line with inflation. Poland is a credit culture to an extent. Yes, like many others but debt levels may be high if people don't have the means to pay off various things.
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 Aug 7, 11, 17:43    #95
I suppose its the fault of the Polish what has just transpired in London too.
wolf Edited by: Moderator  Aug 7, 11, 17:49    #96
Typical Polish Delete any comment that is true or that they dont like

Your comment was moved because of the personal attack.
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 Aug 7, 11, 18:02    #97
,AS I READ THAT THEY WERE TO BLAME FOR THE START OF THIS WHOLE IMMIGRANT FREE FOR ALL AND THAT WAS WRITTEN BY A JOURNALIST .....................

anybody can be a "journalist" it means nothing, it's just somebody's opinion that happened to get published.(and it sounds like a pretty dumb opinion) British government made the policies, nobody else.
yeh I think alot of people exploit the British welfare state, so what? Any system is open to exploitation.
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Edited by: Moderator  Aug 7, 11, 18:10    #98
IMMIGRANT FREE FOR ALL

Immigrant free for all??

How many Indian, Pakistani, Black Afro-Carribean Poles do you know of??

How many Poles were holed up in camps at Calais do you know of?

Why the hell am I even debating this with you?

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wolf  Aug 7, 11, 18:57    #99
ED THE NED ..........................YOU ARE DEBATING BECAUSE YOU ARE IN DENIAL . Once again you see point the finger responses to what i say .The Polish were the first to come here over 5 years ago and show contempt and disrespect for everything(THIS ATTITUDE WAS ALL SELF GUILT BASED). ........they knew what they were doing when they came here and ive had not one single drop of evidence or sentiment to prove otherwise that they are selfish greedy self possessed people .A prime example of this was when my partner lost her job and got overdrawn at the bank etc etc, it was not my responsibility to pay for her debts but i did and her family(with their 2 cars/20 mobile phones/4 laptops/flatscreen tvs etc etc) were going to send money to help ....AND THEY DID NOTHING......ZERO ............AND THIS JUST PROVED TO ME YET AGAIN WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THESE PEOPLE ARE .I remember some girls i once helped and they both had fulltime jobs and they were trying to wriggle out of paying rent etc , they bought their own shampoos and toiletries etc but didnt use them(USED MINE INSTEAD).................THIS IS THE LEVEL OF GREED AND DECEPTION RELATIVE TO POLISH PEOPLE.Even the last time i was in poland in the family home, i would buy something that i needed for my personal hygiene and 2 days later i would go to use it and it would be empty ................TOO GREEDY TO BUY THE PRODUCT BUT FAST USE IT FOR YOU .
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 Aug 7, 11, 19:12    #100
ED THE NED ..........................YOU ARE DEBATING BECAUSE YOU ARE IN DENIAL . Once again you see point the finger responses to what i say .The Polish were the first to come here over 5 years ago and show contempt and disrespect for everything(THIS ATTITUDE WAS ALL SELF GUILT BASED). ........they knew what they were doing when they came here and ive had not one single drop of evidence or sentiment to prove otherwise that they are selfish greedy self possessed people .A prime example of this was when my partner lost her job and got overdrawn at the bank etc etc, it was not my responsibility to pay for her debts but i did and her family(with their 2 cars/20 mobile phones/4 laptops/flatscreen tvs etc etc) were going to send money to help ....AND THEY DID NOTHING......ZERO ............AND THIS JUST PROVED TO ME YET AGAIN WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THESE PEOPLE ARE .I remember some girls i once helped and they both had fulltime jobs and they were trying to wriggle out of paying rent etc , they bought their own shampoos and toiletries etc but didnt use them(USED MINE INSTEAD).................THIS IS THE LEVEL OF GREED AND DECEPTION RELATIVE TO POLISH PEOPLE.Even the last time i was in poland in the family home, i would buy something that i needed for my personal hygiene and 2 days later i would go to use it and it would be empty ................TOO GREEDY TO BUY THE PRODUCT BUT FAST USE IT FOR YOU .

Stop whining will you, look if your Polish girl friend dumped you just go down the pub and tell them all about it, dont come here p1ssing moaning. Just be a man for fcuk sake.
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 Aug 7, 11, 20:28    #101
WB, let the man speak. Everyone has their story to tell and the Mods can step in at any time. I know what he is talking about with regards to skimping on payments. Also with shampoos and other stuff (I know this well). Don't knock the man for speaking some truth. Just let it stay that way without him overgeneralising. Poles exploit the welfare state to some extent but, then again, so do many others.
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 Aug 7, 11, 20:39    #102
Stop whining will you, look if your Polish girl friend dumped you just go down the pub and tell them all about it, dont come here p1ssing moaning. Just be a man for fcuk sake.


Hahahaha.

Too true, WB.
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 Aug 7, 11, 20:59    #103
You can still be a man and talk about things too, delph. Or am I wrong? ;)
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 Aug 7, 11, 21:47    #104
WB, let the man speak. Everyone has their story to tell and the Mods can step in at any time. I know what he is talking about with regards to skimping on payments.

So you son think its the same guy trolling every thread overt the past few hours? with the same writing style.
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 Aug 7, 11, 22:14    #105
No, WB, as this guy writes longer posts. Besides, he is talking about exploitation rather than just trash talking Poland without justification.


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