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BarneyThreads: 16
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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 00:59    #211
Ah you can eat it the same with soup, it just involves the invention of the spoon which I may add is up there with the wheel.

PS Neutral on the nationality issue
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Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 01:02    #212
Any dyed-in-the-wool Anglophiles out there.

There aren't many left. The plague sometimes known as "political correctness" has gripped too many of them. Only antidotes available such as honesty, logic and courage are in short supply.

your 'little brown' neighbors to the far south of Europe were building palaces, great vessels, metropolises, painting great artworks and sculpting timeless masterpieces, the Anglo-Saxons were sitting around their trough, eating mead and throwing bones at one another.

At least they didn't have to smell camel dung.

Who's the 'civilized' people now?

Ironic comment since your builders of "palaces, great vessels, metropolises, great artworks and ...masterpieces" seem to still be living in the 7th century. Meanwhile the great innovations such as air travel, computers, and a myriad of necessary revolutionary creations were invented by bone throwing Europeans.
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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 01:05    #213
Ironic comment since your builders of "palaces, great vessels, metropolises, great artworks and ...masterpieces" seem to still be living in the 7th century. Meanwhile the great innovations such as air travel, computers, and a myriad of necessary revolutionary creations were invented by bone throwing Europeans.

Zim he was talking about southern Europeans......
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Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 01:14    #214
Zim he was talking about southern Europeans.....

Yeah,the Greeks and Spaniards,they never riot..................
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Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 01:15    #215
he was talking about southern Europeans......

Really? He said "to the far south of Europe" which I inferred as Muslim transgressions into Europe.
What's he got against the Greeks and Italians? Spaniards too?
Okay Lyzko, what was your point? Give us your "politically correct" viewpoint.
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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		Edited by: Barney  Aug 12, 11, 01:27    #216
Yeah,the Greeks and Spaniards,they never riot..................

Not poof riots anyway....Edit to put in sarcasm winks;);)

Okay Lyzko, what was your point?

He was having a dig at the Brits.
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Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 01:32    #217
Really? He said "to the far south of Europe"

TBH,I thought he meant the Eygyptians too.........of course, no riots there either eh...................

Not poof riots anyway....

Well,lets face it,it was cockernees and scousers................good job it didnt spread to hard to scotland
http://youtu.be/EW0356brnrE
Lyzko  Aug 12, 11, 01:34    #218
I was simply indicating that civilization in Europe moved northward, from south to north and not the other way round-:)
plgrl  Aug 12, 11, 11:29    #219
Yes,but Im sure if Poles did riot they would do it far better than us...............


The police would also do it better from their part too.
Once I saw such riots few years ago and the police in action.
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Joined: Jun 28, 11  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 13:58    #220
Yes,but Im sure if Poles did riot they would do it far better than us..............


No they woudn't. They would have one maybe two great and brilliant rioting individuals .Afterwards, for decades and for centuries, they would continually bring them up as proof that Poles are the greatest rioters equal to, if not better, than British ones.
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Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 12, 11, 15:46    #221
They would have one maybe two great and brilliant rioting individuals .Afterwards, for decades and for centuries, they would continually bring them up

I've admired Kosciusko as one of the greatest freedom fighters of all time. His name should be brought up centuries from now.

As to rioting, Poles seem to have done quite well with Solidarnosc. ]

Poles are the greatest rioters equal to, if not better, than British ones.

If Britain wasn't an island, it would have been swallowed up long ago. Location, location, location........
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 11:39    #222
The only real reason that they may not fit in is trying to insist on their culture being elevated beyond that which is should be afforded. Otherwise, what's the problem?
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Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 19:45    #223
well, jarnowa uses it because he is our resident realist.

Exactly.

Tell me Wroclaw, why do you think that ethnic background has nothing to do with these riots?

You really think the main reason is poverty?
Then why don't we hear about Polish looters? They aren't poor?
I'm sure that British welfare benefits are much higher than Polish benefits, so i don't think that the average unemployed* benefit-pulling, golden chains-wearing looter from Tottenham is poorer than the average Polish immigrant.

*isn't it strange? many rioters blame the government because of "no jobs" and at the same time thousands of Polish immigrants easily find jobs in the UK, even if they are unskilled and hardly speak English.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 19:52    #224
Resident realist? I can't see where he said that.

Jarnowa, hasn't it crossed your mind that immigrants took those jobs? Just a thought!
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Joined: Nov 25, 09  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 20:00    #225
Tell me Wroclaw, why do you think that ethnic background has nothing to do with these riots?


Again, you see what you want to see.

looting suspects
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Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 21:24    #226
Again, you see what you want to see.

looting suspects

Yes, many white criminals too, but don't forget that we're talking about the UK, the most politically correct country of Europe.
I'm 100% sure that that the p.c. UK press is actively trying to manipulate the public opinion as much as possible by counter-balancing pictures of coloured looters with at least as many pictures of white looters so as to try to make people believe that ethnic background has nothing to do with the riots.

But knowing how and where it started, how it spread and knowing that many seek to blame "discrimination" as one of the causes of their anger, it's easy to see the root cause of these riots: coloured losers who hate anyone who is white and has more money.
The white looters are mainly low-lives who joined the party but didn't start it.

Enlighten me if you have arguments that show me that i'm wrong.

Resident realist? I can't see where he said that.

Jarnowa, hasn't it crossed your mind that immigrants took those jobs? Just a thought!


Seanus, hasn't it crossed your mind that it's all about mentality and having the right values?
If an unskilled poor English speaking Polish guy can find a job soon after arriving in the UK, why can't an English-speaking black born and raised in the most immigrant-friendly country of Europe find a job? (of course i'm not suggesting all blacks are like that, just too many).
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 21:31    #227
Some get help getting into employment. Employers hire Poles because they work for less. There is still a colour bias in the UK in some sectors. Shall I go on?
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Tell me Wroclaw, why do you think that ethnic background has nothing to do with these riots?

You really think the main reason is poverty?



i don't remember saying the riots had anything to do with poverty.

nor do i remember saying ethnic background had anything to do with it.

and especially i didn't use the word 'realist'

next time u misquote i'll bin the whole post.
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Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂ 		Edited by: jarnowa  Aug 13, 11, 22:27    #229
i don't remember saying the riots had anything to do with poverty.

nor do i remember saying ethnic background had anything to do with it.

So let me ask your p.o.v. in this, these riots are just a lower-class against middle/upper class thing, no anti-white sentiments involved whatsoever?
No riots in Scottish cities, no Polish looters despite many of them living in much worse conditions than the Tottenham youth, how do you explain all this?

and especially i didn't use the word 'realist'

next time u misquote i'll bin the whole post.

Despite all my efforts to show you to proof otherwise, you keep on calling me a racist.
So instead of being annoyed you should be glad i'm not striking back at you! ;)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 22:29    #230
Jarnowa, it's really hard to prove either way.
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Joined: Nov 21, 09 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 23:17    #231
Sorry, forgot to answer you Seanus.

Some get help getting into employment.

True, but even more social workers do the same for specific ethnic minorites. Besides, Poles don't enjoy "affirmative action" like some ethnic groups.

Employers hire Poles because they work for less.

There is still a colour bias in the UK in some sectors. Shall I go on?

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Ok, the employers are to blame. Now i understand. ;)
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 23:19    #232
It's called redressing the imbalance, jarnowa.

Some employers don't play by the rules. What kind of society does that create?
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Joined: Jul 3, 09  Pictures: 2  Gold Member MEMBER ♂ 		Edited by: Wroclaw Boy  Aug 13, 11, 23:27    #233
these riots are just a lower-class against middle/upper class thing,

You could say that.

That coloured chick that was busted by her mum for being a thug, the same one that was an Olympic show girl, man she was fit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8696197/London-riots-the- 2012-Olympics-ambassador-turned-in-by-her-mother.html
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Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀ 		Edited by: rozumiemnic  Aug 13, 11, 23:39    #234
No riots in Scottish cities,

the Scottish and the Welsh are treated a WHOLE lot better than the English, its a fact. No prescription charges, no unnaffordable uni fees, no, these are reserved for the English. And if we say anything we are told we are "racist"
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 13, 11, 23:43    #235
Ah, the Union of the Parliaments ;)
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Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended] 		Edited by: delphiandomine  Aug 13, 11, 23:47    #236
the Scottish and the Welsh are treated a WHOLE lot better than the English, its a fact. No prescription charges, no unnaffordable uni fees, no these are reserved for the English. And if we say anything we are told we are "racist"

It's not a fact.

For a start, while Scotland has no uni fees (actually, we do - it's only the 'first attempt' per year that's free - otherwise it's nearly 2,000 pounds a year) - we also have much less in the way of student support packages for poor students. There's no system of bursaries in higher education for instance, unlike in England. Then there's the issue of university funding - it's no secret that Scottish universities are far worse funded than English ones - and our FE college system is rapidly merging to leave only a few 'super-colleges' (which isn't good, is it?).

No prescription charges? Yes, but again - the Scottish health service is pretty poor in rural areas. Many rural maternity wards were shut, leaving people to travel huge distances to give birth. Many places don't even have specialist cancer wards in small rural hospitals - again - meaning people are often far away from their families and homes.

It's also looking like there will be massive cuts in the funding towards lifeline ferry services - there's just no money for new boats, and many other boats are pushing 30 years of age. People depend on these services, yet it's totally unclear what the future holds for them.

There's two sides to every story, especially here.

(mind you - I am a huge supporter of English devolution and believe that the UK Parliament should be federal rather than the current situation with the West Lothian Question still in play)
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Joined: Nov 16, 09 ♀ 		 Aug 13, 11, 23:55    #237
e 'first attempt' per year that's free - otherwise it's nearly 2,000 pounds a year

and for the English, 9,000 quid, first attempt or not.
Scottish health service is pretty poor in rural areas.
and outside of London its pretty shyte in England too

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