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The Polish are more British than The British!

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Edited by: paulinska Oct 12, 11, 16:14 #1

According to a recent research conducted in the UK, The Polish topped the 'Britishness' citizenship test. Here is the link: http://lifeintheuk.net/index.php/news/polish_score_top_marks_in_britis hness_test/

All this bickering we do about the invasion of our country and yet we don't even know much about it - the irony!

Here's another link with some of the questions used in this research. Have a go, you could be more British than you think!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/quiz/2011/oct/11/uk-citizenship-test -quiz?newsfeed=true

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 16:24 #2
So the Scots are the same as the Welsh who are the same as the English? Wow, amazing that! Again, just labels.

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Edited by: isthatu2 Oct 12, 11, 16:41 #3

The Polish topped the 'Britishness' citizenship test

Er,no, they were able to answer multiple choice questions on subjects most native british people have no earthly need to study. A flawed test anyway as many of the questions require more than one answer yet allow only one box to be ticked.
Infact it is far more British to not know,or care about things like whether the EU thing is called a council or know why nice old Winston Jones the retired bus driver round the corner came here in the 1950s.......
Besides,according to the table I must be an American :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 16:51 #4
Being British is about doing, not about knowing. Besides, why should they try and copy British ways? (whatever they are).

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 16:56 #5
I failed - and can pretty much GUARANTEE I know a helluva lot more about Britain than 90% of Poles. Therefore, loada bollix.

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 17:01 #6
Britishness test 21st century version Complete the following; " Nice to see you --------" "Dont throw those bloody --------" " You're only supposed to blow------" " Two World Wars and--------" "Tony Blair is a complete------------" part two to follow.

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 17:16 #7
ishatu your not even English, you a pole whose been living here for a while. England has been here for more than 1000 years, long before tony blair came into power.

paulinskaThreads: 6 Posts: 344 Joined: May 19, 10 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 17:22 #8
I failed - and can pretty much GUARANTEE I know a helluva lot more about Britain than 90% of Poles. I failed too Teffle, however, im gobsmacked by this Britishness table. Say there was a Polishness table, would the British rank that high? native british people have no earthly need to study Well, you could argue the same for the other nationalities as well unless ofcos you were a Historian,

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 17:22 #9
ishatu your not even English Go to the top of the class numb nuts.......its plastered all over this forum that I was born in Scotland to a Scots mother and Irish father . You however were clearly produced in a petrie dish.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 17:27 #10
Say there was a Polishness table, would the British rank that high? They might - you never know. Immigrants can have a very different perspective of their host nation than the natives and can often learn about it in very different ways. I'm sure there are some Poles who know more about (certain aspects of) Ireland than I do. In fact I know there are : (

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Edited by: isthatu2 Oct 12, 11, 17:27 #11

Well, you could argue the same for the other nationalities as well unless ofcos you were a Historian,

Huh????? You miss the simple point.
They only study for and take the test if they want to become British (crown subjects BTW). Why would British people need to do that?
It is silly to claim that by passing a test of useless,EU/PC centric trivia that you have studied months for is some sign of being "more British" than british people.............who,obviously have no need to study for this test.
I could care less which nationalities scored higher or lower than another,its equally redundant . all it shows is that some people study a little bit harder to pass the test, its telling that people such as Irish and Americans who could claim to have far more conections or things in common with the British score lower, they too obviously feel less need to "prove" something.
What we do see,even on this forum is Poles in the UK now complaing about romanians undercutting them............to us Brits that looks far more like some idea of "typical " British behaviour (however negative) than being able to say how many constituencies there are in the UK............

RichfilthThreads: 8 Posts: 327 Joined: Mar 8, 09 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 22:56 #12
KingAthelstan: ishatu your not even English, you a pole whose been living here for a while. England has been here for more than 1000 years, long before tony blair came into power. You speak as if being Polish does not entitle anyone to talk about English history. And yet, 1000 years ago, who was the mother of Cnut, King of the English?

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 12, 11, 23:39 #13
Richfilth: who was the mother of Cnut, King of the English? Świętosława the daughter of Mieszko I.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 23:50 #14
Richfilth: Cnut, King of the English? Himself a Dane.

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Edited by: modafinil Oct 12, 11, 23:59 #15

It's kinda like saying the next King of England has a Greek dad in Phillip. Though its rare to find a chippy that doesn't do kebabs these days...so maybe Cnut's mum had some watered down influence on the Polloi. One of my local Parks is said to be named after Cnut somehow mutated into Gunnersbury which was also the name of my secondary school. Looking at the school 'honours' list quite a few have *ski surnames.
I noticed one of the Qs on Britishness was if one knew the procedures involved in getting a council house. wtf!

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 13, 11, 00:06 #16
Cnut the Great was good to his Polish mama too. After he became the king of not just England, but of Denmark and Norway as well, it is said that he, and one of his brothers, went to Poland to get their mother so she could live in the splendor of the court of his huge domain.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 00:07 #17
Cnut the Great, ROTFL. Cnut was a polar bear too :) :)

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Edited by: isthatu2 Oct 13, 11, 00:16 #18

a.k.:

5. What is the name of Polish anthem:a. Mazurek Dąbrowskiego b. Rota c. My, Pierwsza Brygada

If Im not mistaken,all 3 have been national "hyms" at one time or another........ a bit like some of the britishness test questions, impossible to answer if you really know,easy if you have cribbed for the specific test questions :)

Richfilth:

You speak as if being Polish does not entitle anyone to talk about English history.And yet, 1000 years ago, who was the mother of Cnut, King of the English?

I dunno Rich, I think he intended calling me Polish more as a slur than a hinderence to understanding Britain...maybe he couldnt answer any of my earlier "real brit" test ? :)
(btw,its not entirely certain the whole Cnut thing, but, in the wider scheme of things it is irrelevant as the English and Polish nobles and royals most certainly inter-married from that period onwards :) )

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 01:30 #19
King Cnut was a Danish invader and not English, I much prefer the man who fought him Edmund Ironside.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 01:45 #20
KingAthelstan: King Cnut was a Danish invader and not English, I much prefer the man who fought him Edmund Ironside. you should also remember that Cnut was actually half-Polish, and that some Poles aided him in the conquest of England (sent by his cousin Bolesław from Poland)

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Edited by: isthatu2 Oct 13, 11, 01:50 #21

gumishu:

you should also remember that Cnut was actually half-Polish

Maybe,probably,but,no one knows for sure :)

Cnut's mother's name is unknown, although a Slavic princess, daughter to Mieszko I of Poland (in accord with the Monk of St Omer's, Encomium Emmae[5] and Thietmar of Merseburg's contemporary Chronicon[6]), is likely.[7] Norse sources of the high medieval period, most prominently Snorri Sturluson's Heimskringla, also give a Polish princess as Cnut's mother, whom they call Gunhild and a daughter of Burislav, the king of Vindland.[13] Since in the Norse sagas the king of Vindland is always Burislav, this is reconcilable with the assumption that her father was Mieszko (not his son Bolesław). Adam of Bremen in Gesta Hammaburgensis ecclesiae pontificum is unique in equating Cnut's mother (for whom he also produces no name) with the former queen of Sweden, wife of Eric the Victorious and by this marriage mother of Olof Skötkonung.[14] To complicate the matter, Heimskringla and other Sagas also have Sweyn marrying Eric's widow, but she is distinctly another person in these texts, by name of Sigrid the Haughty, whom Sweyn only marries after Gunhild, the Slavic princess who bore Cnut, has died.[15] Different theories regarding the number and ancestry of Sweyn's wives (or wife) have been brought forward (see Sigrid the Haughty and Gunhild). But since Adam is the only source to state the identity of Cnut's with Olof Skötkonung's mother, this is often seen as an error of Adam, and it is often assumed that Sweyn had two wives, the first being Cnut's mother, and the second being the former queen of Sweden.

gumishu:

and that some Poles aided him in the conquest of England

There were Polish mercenaries with Wiliam the Bastards invading force in 1066,raping and harrying their way across the English countryside.
Id suggest pointing out Polish men at arms coming with any invading force to pick up scraps is neither the best way to win friends or show Poles in a good light :)

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 01:57 #22
isthatu2: Id suggest pointing out Polish men at arms coming with any invading force to pick up scraps is neither the best way to win friends or show Poles in a good light :) I don't care :P

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 02:09 #23
What!!! You enjoy defaming Polands name!?!? Surely Poles have ever only fought for "Right and True" ideals, Honour etc etc , you are happy to admit that some fought for money,land and slaves a thousand years ago???? ;)

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 02:23 #24
I would like to thank the polaks that fought with us during the war, the pole in the great escape is one of my favourite characters.

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 02:34 #25
Its a film,the actor was lithuanian american. ( but he is cool as, its funny,as a school boy we all wanted to be Mcqueen or Danny or, the Polish Pilots in BofB,repeat please,repeat please) 6 Brave Poles were murdered alongside 44 of the other re captured Escapers from 12 allied nations.

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 02:35 #26
hiltz was the coolest

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Oct 13, 11, 03:54 #27
Well i have just passed, i think that is the guardian politically correct version of the test.

ShAlEyNsTfOhThreads: 8 Posts: 232 Joined: Feb 5, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 13, 11, 06:20 #28
paulinska: According to a recent research conducted in the UK, The Polish topped the 'Britishness' citizenship test. Here is the link hahaha.... poland ranked #1 on 'The Britishness league table', and had the lowest number of participants, too! :DD

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,974 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Oct 13, 11, 06:25 #29
isthatu2: according to the table I must be an American :) you will be soon as the tetonic plates collide... and North America and Europe meet up :) lol

RichfilthThreads: 8 Posts: 327 Joined: Mar 8, 09 ♂	Edited by: Richfilth Oct 13, 11, 07:59 #30
KingAthelstan: King Cnut was a Danish invader and not English, All of the English are invaders; German, Danish, Viking and Norman. Don't confuse the English with the British, who were there for thousands of years before the English showed up. Cnut's as English as the current Queen.

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