Do Polish People Litter their own country (just like they do in the UK)?

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Jun 16, 10, 12:32 #1

Hi - just wondering do Poles have much respect for their own country, keeping beautiful recreational areas tidy etc. Im appalled to watch Polish fishermen and women leaving all their garbage behind them beside our beautiful lakes. Beer cans, cigarrette packs, even babies nappies. i know that they were Polish as I was fishing beside them. Im just wondering - If the Irish were guests in Poland instead of vice versa - what would the reaction be to this obvious lack of total respect? Would there be an angry reaction or is that whats its like in Poland - lots of littering? This is not an isolated incident - I have seen it many times in the lasty couple of years.

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1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Edited by: 1jola Jun 16, 10, 12:37 #2
And you feel it is safer to complain about it here instead to the litterers. You missed the opportunity to ask the experts.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 12:42 #3
Some do and some don't. I generally see Poland as a clean country, whose people make use of the available bins on the streets. However, standards slip when abroad. A certain type of beer-guzzling Pole will have no respect for tidiness. The same goes for Brits and many others you care to mention. It must be ingrained in you to be otherwise and the Japanese are the prime example.

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Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 12:44 #4

Yes they littering they own coutry, pretty badly. I believe that Irish youth is also littering but you dont want to see it...

hotdog:

Would there be an angry reaction or is that whats its like in Poland - lots of littering?

No. No one even notice that due to a fact our forest etc. are already littered so much.

Seanus:

Some do and some don't. I generally see Poland as a clean country, whose people make use of the available bins on the streets.

well Seanus do you like strolling in forests? Lots of ppl dont want to pay for their garbage be taken so they throw it into forest.

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Edited by: mafketis Jun 16, 10, 12:47 #5

IMO Polish people don't think about litter. If you point it out they say they don't like it, but mostly they can just not see it and many who say they don't like litter will casually litter themselves.

At home, most Polish people are very clean and organized but they don't much care if parks and forests and streets are littered (certainly not enough to do anything about it).

zetigrek:

Lots of ppl dont want to pay for their garbage be taken so they throw it into forest.

And we call those people 'filthy pigs'. Really, that's just so disgusting.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 12:49 #6
hotdog: i know that they were Polish as I was fishing beside them. Im just wondering - If the Irish were guests in Poland instead of vice versa - what would the reaction be to this obvious lack of total respect? Btw how do you distinguish between Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Lithuanians? Im just curiouse...

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 12:49 #7
hotdog: keeping beautiful recreational areas tidy etc. most don't - stupid ******* !

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Jun 16, 10, 12:58 #8

Good thread. I moved to Poland from Canada two months ago, and frankly I'm shocked at the total lack of respect Poles have for their parks here. Obviously there are countless decent and cultured people who pick up after themselves, but visit any park and you'll see just how many people there are utterly devoid of any class. Here in Krakow, the best example I can think of is Zakrzowek, a gorgeous lake that hundreds of people picnic around and swim in every sunny day (it's only 2 km from the old town). There are literally thousands of bottles, cans, plastic bags and junk-food wrappers littering the ground. Walk around the lake for an hour or so, and you'll see many, many mouthbreathing teenagers throwing their beer bottles against the rocks and structuring their sentences around the work "kurwa". It's pretty disgusting really.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:02 #9
lukaszpoznanski: many mouthbreathing teenagers throwing their beer bottles against the rocks We, the nose breathers, just don't litter.

hotdogThreads: 1 Posts: 1 Joined: Jun 16, 10 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:08 #10
Well there was 6 of them and one of me - and alcohol was involved - so i declined.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:13 #11
You're lucky they didn't chase down all the swans. :)

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 13:13 #12
hotdog: Well there was 6 of them and one of me - and alcohol was involved - so i declined. Nobody said here you should have to risk your life and tell them to clean up ;) 1jola: You're lucky they didn't chase down all the swans. Yes, we Poles like to eat swans. Do you have swans in Ireland? ;)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:21 #13
In the forests, zetigrek? Well, you have a point based on the ones here. Out for a shag and then a dumping of trash ;)

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:22 #14
zetigrek: Yes, we Poles like to eat swans. Do you have swans in Ireland? ;) Why ask? Are you hungry?

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Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 13:28 #15

Seanus:

Out for a shag and then a dumping of trash

What do you mean?
Shagging in forest (mój słownik mówi mi, że to coś zboczonego)? It would be very riskful - watch out the glass under the moss! ;P

Ironside:

Why ask? Are you hungry?

Yeeah I feel like eating whole swain (it should be now: zjadłbym łabędzia z piórami instead of konia z kopytami) ;D
We in Poland are lacking of swains because we already eaten all

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:35 #16
Zetigrek, are you fully Polish or only learning? Shagging is sth perverse for some, yes. Perfectly natural for others.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:37 #17
Seanus: Zetigrek, are you fully Polish or only learning? Yes... Im fully Polish... dont I sound like polish?

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:38 #18
zetigrek: We in Poland are lacking of swains because we already eaten all before or after shagging ?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:40 #19
I say that because a Polish female would write zjadłabym and not zjadłbym ;) ;)

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 13:42 #20
Seanus: I say that because a Polish female would write zjadłabym and not zjadłbym ;) ;) Yes but i mean they generally should change the saying. And the general saying is in male form ;)

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Jun 16, 10, 13:51 #21

Sneaking out the back door with that one ;) ;)

OK, back to the topic. Sometimes the litter bins are overflowing and the authorities are not on top of it. However, there are depositorites here in which people can put glass, bottles etc etc.

Again, the Japanese system is much more efficient. They had a colour-coded system for litter and made you sign the bags. They trusted you to be honest. It really raises environmental awareness and was a sign of a developed society.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 13:58 #22
Seanus: Again, the Japanese system is much more efficient. They had a colour-coded system for litter and made you sign the bags. They trusted you to be honest. It really raises environmental awareness and was a sign of a developed society. it would not work in Poland. Mental changes and rebuild of society is needed. In Poland society is in shambles ! I-S (hey is good topic for a new thread )

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Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 14:05 #23

Seanus:

However, there are depositorites here in which people can put glass, bottles etc etc.

Well some ppl try to segregate trash but it occures they need to pay more for transportation of such garbage than not segregated garbage...

I dont know is it true but there is also a gossip in my city that the whole tash we segregate is landing on a rubbish tip (should be 'rubbish tip' or 'dumping site'? which one is correct expression?)

Seanus:

Sneaking out the back door with that one ;) ;)

Do I have to take my knickers down to make you believe me I'm a woman? ;D ;P

Ironside:

In Poland society is in shambles !

Excuse me?

Read the things I have just written above. Lots of ppl wish to help enviroment but they feel that they effords are useless...

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 14:10 #24
zetigrek: (should be 'rubbish tip' or 'dumping site'? which one is correct expression?) It is properly called Ireland now. :)

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Jun 16, 10, 14:17 #25

Zetigrek, super point! When my dad used to live in the north side of the city, he had to travel all the way across to the south with black bags containing trimmings from the hedge. I used to help him with this and it was a fair bit of petrol (though nothing in American terms, LOL). Do Polish cities have central deposits like in Altens, Aberdeen? I've seen local ones but not centralised.

Knickers? A strange word to use for a Pole ;) ;) Or I may have a nasty surprise ;) You may look like a woman but 'spring' a shock. We live in diverse times ;) Well, if you are offering, I am always up for verifying the validity of things ;) ;) Oh, go on then, my PM box still has some space ;) ;) ;)

Ironside, Poland really isn't doing that badly on this one. They have their act together and must look towards further improvements. Japan as a model would be sensible.

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Edited by: zetigrek Jun 16, 10, 14:31 #26

Seanus:

When my dad used to live in the north side of the city, he had to travel all the way across to the south with black bags containing trimmings from the hedge. I used to help him with this and it was a fair bit of petrol (though nothing in American terms, LOL)

By a transport I mean MPO (Miejskie Przedsiębiorstwo Oczyszczania - I have no idea whats the british equivalent... the garbage collectores?). They tell you to pay more for segregated stuff... which is not a good reward for being enviroment-friendly.

Seanus:

Do Polish cities have central deposits like in Altens, Aberdeen? I've seen local ones but not centralised.

I guess no cos I have no idea whats central deposit.

There is a big issue over elektrośmieci, which dumping anywhere can cost you a fine. There are 3 points in Łódź to collect such stuff and one flying point on Saturdays

Seanus:

Knickers? A strange word to use for a Pole

A strange for a Pole? Why? I learnt that word 10 tears ago from my english book. Is it out of date?

Seanus:

Well, if you are offering, I am always up for verifying the validity of things

What would your girlfriend say about that idea? ;> ;P

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 14:36 #27
Unfortunately, people are in the environment game for profit. Look at Ralph Nader and Al Gore in America as evidence of that. Like a central dump :) A skip is another name for it. No, not at all. It is very much used but very British. I would've been more surprised if you had said kegs. Kegs są beczki but also knickers. I don't have a GF so you are free to go ahead ;) ;) ;)

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Jun 16, 10, 14:48 #28

Seanus:

Kegs są beczki but also knickers.

Kegs? Beczki? Well... Im slender ;DDD ...I think I will stay using knickers ;) Do you use word panties?

Seanus:

Like a central dump :) A skip is another name for it.

skip = contener

central dump = ??? I guess you mean "wysypisko". Never heard in Poland someone to drive with trash on wysypisko. I guess its closed area:
http://polskalokalna.pl/wiadomosci/kujawsko-pomorskie/tuchola/news/smi eci-nie-mozna-wywozic-na-wysypisko,1199986

Seanus:

I don't have a GF so you are free to go ahead ;) ;) ;)

I thought you have... you were talkin something bout planning a baby...

MatowyThreads: 1 Posts: 519 Joined: Jul 4, 09 ♂	Jun 16, 10, 14:50 #29
Seanus: However, there are depositorites here in which people can put glass, bottles etc etc. I don't know if it's just a local thing, but there are now trucks that function much the same as bin collecting which will swing by every week to pick up recyclables like glass and tin, and the same for hedge trimmings.

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Edited by: Seanus Jun 16, 10, 14:51 #30

Drop your kegs means take down your panties but let's keep this discussion off the main board ;)

It's a skip in one part of the city where everyone, theoretically, should come together and dump their black bags with various rubbish inside.

Indeed I am :) :) ;)

Matowy, that's a good thing. I'm lucky enough to share the rubbish tip with the local shop as it's all part of the same complex. No wheelie bins for me in either Poland or Japan. They are effective in Britain though as there are more driveways there.

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