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Lir

Feb 6, 09, 20:32 #61

luci4:

They send their money back home, they do not spend it in the UK.

I wonder whether or not you understand what you write ?

How can Immigrants earn money in the UK and not spend any money in the UK ?

Think about it ? Ok, well i shall give you some answers to that question, if it helps.

In order to work here, they need somewhere to live, therefore they will pay rent, council tax and water rates, utility bills etc. You may say that their employer provides it all for them in some circumstances. Well, even in those cases the employer will be clawing that back via lower wages etc. Then they need food , travel costs unless they walk everywhere or use a pushbike. If they use a car , they pay for petrol. Clothing costs etc etc . They buy Polish newspapers from Newsagents or supermarkets. They go to the Pub, they use coffee shops etc etc.

Major supermarkets have Polish food in store now <and they make profits on these > Banks help Polish people set up accounts < and they don't do that for free either>
so it's a bit daft to say they don't spend any money in the UK. They work, earn money , spend some in UK and send some money back home. Is that any different to a British person working here and instead of sending some money to another country , he/she takes his money to a foreign country when he goes on Holiday once a year<or more> and spends lots and lots of money on having a good time. So what's the difference then ?

:)

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Edited by: SeanBM Feb 6, 09, 20:39 #62

Lir:

Think about it ?

Ireland had a "second Celtic Tiger" because of the workers (that we needed) came in and eat bread, take buses, pay rent etc...

Lir:

So what's the difference then ?

Some one to blame everything on.
(don't mention banks, bad government policies and bad business practices, NO!)
It is the Polish.

P.S. Do I have to write I was being sarcastic in my last statement? will anyone/everyone reading get that?.
Some people....
You never know....

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Feb 6, 09, 21:15 #63

Lir:

Leave the Polish out if this

But but but....

It is their fault because...
because... they were invited to the U.K. to work and they.... they did.

Then our unscrupulous banks gave away money, I mean then the Polish took all our money and swallowed it, so we could not have it.

And U.K. businesses stopped hiring British people because the Poles would work for less but that is the Poles fault for working!.

And then the Poles emm created the credit crunch and are not wanted any more and must leave now! or else.

Bla bla bla....

P.S. probably no need to mention I am being very sarcastic.

dtaylorThreads: 15 Posts: 992 Joined: Sep 15, 07 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 21:31 #64
And the buggers stole all our carp during the Christmas period from our ponds!!!!

Lir

Edited by: Lir Feb 6, 09, 21:31 #65

SeanBM:

But but but....

That sounds a bit Irish to me lol :)

SeanBM:

they were invited to the U.K. to work and they

True, didn't anyone ever tell them that you never should RSVP ?

SeanBM:

Then our unscrupulous banks gave away money,

They're still doing that now ? I read today that all those hard working, stressed out Bank Executives need to be given 6 figure bonuses before George Brown slaps their wrists lol.

I wonder if the fat, greedy Bank Executives should be forced to swallow their bonuses :)

SeanBM:

so we could not have it

We don't want it because we're not materialistic. A plate of pierogi is all we want :)

SeanBM:

Poles emm created the credit crunch

So it's all their fault then ? That made me laugh so much :)

SeanBM:

I am being very sarcastic.

dtaylor:

And the buggers stole all our carp during the Christmas period from our ponds!!!!

Shhhhhhhhh ! Don't tell everyone :)

Rafal_1981	Edited by: Rafal_1981 Feb 6, 09, 22:09 #66
Fcuk, I've spent almost 4 years in London and never claimed any benefit or a dole. Am I not Polish enough? On the other hand I'm stealing work from a poor Britons... I have to give it back. Anyone (except a foreign bastards) wants my IT job? Polish Pole from Poland

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 22:14 #67
LOL, nice one Rafał. How is it stealing? You got the job through beating other people to it. Congratulations I say. So if I start talking about something related to family law, am I stealing the job of a family law teacher? Nope. Paranoia.

Easy_TerranThreads: 4 Posts: 473 Joined: Mar 31, 08 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 22:45 #68
SeanBM: Poles emm created the credit crunch That's exactly why ex-president Bush said not to trust the Poles! Or did he mean the polls....? Damn it.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Edited by: Seanus Feb 6, 09, 23:08 #69
You know, life is about using your options. The Poles used theirs and were very mindful in their exercise. Over 7PLN to the pound when they went, fantastic. My sincerest apologies to Seanny for editing. You were right, I was digressing so I hope I'm back on track now.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 23:14 #70
Seanus: You gotta ask yourself a simple question. How did Poland manage to minimise the negative effects and America not? Why? Why would you even sugest that? Should every country be responsible for America's (And my county's mess ups) Remember the thread title "Are Polish people scavengers? Just here (in UK) for Money? The facts!" That is adding apples and bricks.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 23:26 #71
My apologies, Seanny. That was for another thread. I write this with hand extended.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 23:39 #72
Seanus: You know, life is about using your options. The Poles used theirs and were very mindful in their exercise. Over 7PLN to the pound What? Economic slavery is OK? But as soon as your rump gets bit OOOHHHH NOOOO!! I believe in You personally, more than this. Benifit of the doubt, please exlain. P.S. Friday night, I prefer to chat.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 6, 09, 23:41 #73
Nah, what a golden opportunity they had and took. Even if they got only 1000 pounds, that was over 7000PLN back in the day. Sky-high wages for doing basic manual work. I am the rump biter, I rarely get bitten ;)

Rafal_1981	Feb 7, 09, 22:44 #74
Are Polish people scavengers? Just here (in UK) for Money? Yes, yes we are! And we will suck up all your money!! Buahahaha (evil laugh)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 7, 09, 23:01 #75
I do notice a lot of references to money in Polish soaps. This may give the wrong impression. Polish families have to focus on their finances more. As Tomek, my super student said, the Poles have slightly higher wages than Romanians and Bulgarians but prices in excess of some Western countries. He was talking about cars and how expensive they were. I do find that unfair.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 09, 03:07 #76
Bring back the Pole tax....that should sort em out....i mean , blimey...i was paying it even before i had Poles living at my house in UK...not fair....Years later i had eight Poles living at my house , but the Pole tax had been scrapped...whats that all about then...?

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Edited by: Patrycja19 Feb 8, 09, 06:08 #77

luci4:

Are Polish people scavengers? Just here (in UK) for Money? The facts!

its apparently ended feb 2008-get with the program

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3378877.ece

this is just another low life form B*tching just to b*tch

But Britain, along with Ireland and Sweden, welcomed workers from the new European Union members — partly because they took physically demanding, minimum-wage jobs that many native-born Britons snubbed and partly because a wide range of industries in this country were suffering labor shortages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/business/worldbusiness/19migration.h tml

theres plenty of jobs if ya actually want to work..

UK Jobs - more than 194000 vacancies! All the latest UK Jobs from the most important employers and job sites across the England, Scotland, Wales, ...
www.ukjobsnet.co.uk/ - Similar pages

you are pathetic if you keep ranting over no jobs with this online.. come on.

even I can find a job in the UK.

its funny the question though, because your basically saying, they come to get a job
just like you have and this makes them scavengers? but theres nothing stopping you
from the same oppertunities

bolekThreads: 10 Posts: 369 Joined: Sep 13, 08 ♂	Feb 8, 09, 06:12 #78
Patrycja19: theres plenty of jobs if ya actually want to work.. Sorry Pat, not anymore, it may pay to visit Poland to get first hand information and facts.

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Feb 8, 09, 06:17 #79
bolek: Sorry Pat, not anymore, it may pay to visit Poland to get first hand information and facts. err bolek, I am talking about the UK<< so read the post first ok. thanks so much :)

Wroclaw Boy	Feb 8, 09, 10:14 #80
ssjseifertom: Then I went to Krakow and I didn't see one skinhead and only one 'muscly' guy. Also, the girls were not as goodlooking in Poland as the ones in my town! Now thats true, all the criminals and pretty girls are in England.

Wroclaw Boy

Feb 8, 09, 10:42 #81

The last time i was in the UK - July 2008, i noticed the attitude of my old working class mates had changed for the worst towards the Poles drastically. My wife does not wnat to go back to the UK to live as a result. These are the peolpe in the front line, directly affected by the mass immigration of namely Poles. They will blame Polish people and not the government.

I fear a backlash is coming in the UK and unfortunately Poles will be the target.

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Edited by: davout Jun 10, 09, 16:52 #82

luci4:

Over 2 million Poles have poured into to the UK, 99% of them are retarded, uneducated and often very low skilled.

So you suggest British employers are dumb psycho lunatics who prefer to ruin their companies employing uneducated and unskilled people instead of running them properly with well qualified staff? I really don't understand how can you hate British businessmen so much.

luci4:

They send their money back home, they do not spend it in the UK.

From economical point of view it actually doesn't matter if you spend your money in UK, Poland or just burn them in your oven as long as you earned them doing proper work - money are only equivalent of an asset you gave to economy doing your job. A lot of British pensioners spend their money in Spain - is it a problem as well?

luci4:

They are claiming twice on child benefit.

The same as millions of British system-milkers.

luci4:

There are Polish centres advising Poles how to get a whole string of benefits.

The same as centres for millions of British system-milkers.

luci4:

Many of the girls are working as strippers or prostitutes.

Wow, do they? I knew you were a kind of experienced womanizer having a lot of fun. Will you share any addresses or contact numbers?

luci4:

Most of the guys are skin heads, addicted to beer and alcohol. Some are carrying cans of beers at breakfast time.

Yes, this is probably true, I see a lot of them hanging around my local shop. The only thing strange is that these addicted, Polish fascists speak fluent English even talking to each other and they support British football clubs.

luci4:

They cannot speak English and often do not make any effort to intergate into society.

So what? You can't resist to have a chat with them or something?

luci4:

They are almost like the BNP in their mindset, they are very racist towards people of colour or other ethnicities.

Moving remark as for somebody who just wrote so many invectives about different nation.

luci4:

I think it is now time for this bunch of ungrateful migrants to go back home.

Even more moving remark as for somebody who mentioned BNP just a sentence before.

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Sep 24, 09, 09:34 #83

luci4:

They send their money back home, they do not spend it in the UK.

i agree with this particular statement from first hand experience as i have some polish friends and they are not registered with any doctor or dentist in the uk instead,they will go back to poland every 4-5 months for a week and go to a doctor,dentist,hairdresser etc in poland.they tell me its cos all these services are crap in this country but i know its cos they find its cheaper in their own country.they will get their relatives in poland to parcel cigarettes to them etc.i think uk should put in place a law where anybody from the eu comes to work here they have to stay a minimum of 5 yrs.you cannot leave the country within 5 yrs.this will separate the spongers from the genuine people who want a better life.

markcooperThreads: 6 Posts: 113 Joined: Apr 27, 09 ♂	Sep 24, 09, 11:18 #84
davout: luci4: There are Polish centres advising Poles how to get a whole string of benefits. Not sure exactly but I think it is two years they have to be working in the UK before they can claim Job Seeker Allowance.

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Sep 24, 09, 13:39 #85

Well I work in housing benefits and people from A8 countries (i.e. Poland) can only get benefit if they're in registered work- or have been previously for 12 months continuously- and they are then treated as an EEA worker.

If they aren't working, they have to be able to prove they are "self-sufficient"- in other words, not a burden on the state and be able to support themselves and their family. Self employed people would come under this.

With regards to the above comment, it's the same for claiming Job Seekers Allowance as far as I'm aware (12mth registered work), although not entirely sure as it's the department for work and pension who deal with this!

My personal opinion is that Poles don't 'scrounge' money in this country any more than Brits do. In fact, it'very rare that I come across a claim for a Polish person who isn't working! Can't say the same for the locals...

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Sep 24, 09, 14:53 #86

Mirya:

Can you clear something up for me, actually?

Do they have to have the EEA residence permit in order to qualify, or do they just need to provide proof of 12 months work under the Worker Registration Scheme?

MiryaThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: May 12, 09 ♀	Sep 25, 09, 13:47 #87
If you have an EEA residence permit it means you should have been in the UK for 5yrs or more so you would be treated like a British citizen when it comes to claiming housing/council tax benefit. :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 09, 14:12 #88
Some are, some aren't. The stats will tell (provided they are not distorted)

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Sep 25, 09, 15:19 #89

To Luci and others of the same low ilk,

I wouldn't normally reply to a thread like this...

But I will say this - A self-respecting person regardless of their race or background would not post such derogatory statements. It says a lot about your upbringing and values. Sad and pathetic people always have some issues and their anger or frustrations is usually very warped and misguided.

Anyway, you can do something about ignorance but unfortunately there is no cure for stupidity.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 09, 16:25 #90
I wouldn,t say that going to another country to earn better money makes you a scavenger....people have been moving on to better pastures since time began , its nothing new....The Poles are only doing what countless generations from all nations have been doing for centuries.....I am a Brit who has moved to Poland , hopefully for a better life...am i a scavenger too....?

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