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Polish women murdered by Iranian asylum seeker in the UK

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Sep 30, 11, 14:23 #1

A failed asylum seeker strangled and drowned a bakery worker who refused to marry him so he could stay in the UK.

Iranian-born Hossein Abdollahzadeh, 32, left Agnieszka Dziegielewska's naked body in a bath full of water at her flat in Swinton, near Rotherham, just weeks after she kicked him out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043640/Failed-asylum-seeker-H ossein-Abdollahzadeh-strangled-bakery-worker.html

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Sep 30, 11, 15:13 #2
Why do polish women get imvolved with this scum asylum seeker third worldlers ugly,dirty,stupid and penniless is beyond comprehension.

Foreigner4Threads: 22 Posts: 1,990 Joined: Nov 18, 07 ♂	Sep 30, 11, 15:14 #3
It's sad that she didn't come back to Poland and re-establish herself elsewhere...such people like the convicted should be terminated, quickly and economically.

James693296

Sep 30, 11, 16:38 #4

Why do polish women get imvolved with this scum asylum seeker third worldlers ugly,dirty,stupid and penniless is beyond comprehension.

You are Greek and you're saying this about Iranian men? Iranian men are Persian (Indo-European). They don't look much different from your kind.

This is an isolated incident so don't take this story so seriously. Although, Polish women are relatively easy so that's probably why foreigners choose to pursue them for marriage.

James693296

Sep 30, 11, 16:55 #5

It's sad that she didn't come back to Poland and re-establish herself elsewhere...such people like the convicted should be terminated, quickly and economically.

What's sad is that this could've been prevented.

Ms Dziegielewska's mother said Abdollahzadeh had previously tried to strangle her daughter in 2008, holding her neck with both hands and issuing the chilling warning: 'Nobody can help you now.'

She added: 'He started treating her like a servant and humiliating her in public. On one occasion he slapped her so hard her tooth got loose. Each time he would explain he didn't know why it had happened, and it wouldn't happen again.'

So the woman and her mother knew this guy was dangerous considering he had already hurt her before and threatened her. Yet he wasn't reported!?!? I guess this really illustrates the intelligence of Polish women.

In the US, the mother could potentially be charged since she KNEW that this guy was physically abusing her but she chose not to call the authorities.

Brit-Pol	Sep 30, 11, 21:42 #6
I guess this really illustrates the intelligence of Polish women. Of course it doesn't happen in the good old US: w w w .now.org/issues/violence/stats.html "According to the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every ."

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Edited by: ZIMMY Sep 30, 11, 23:55 #7

BritPole:"According to the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every ."

That is a very loose way of putting it. A soft punch on the shoulder is factored in as "physical violence" against women but not counted against men because men still don't report it. From your own source, here is additional information which is more precise because violent death is difficult to fake. You'll note that men are the main victims of violent death by a factor of almost 4.
http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/violentdeaths/index.html

My point is this; It's okay to talk about males as victims as well, not just women who seem to get virtually all the coverage when it comes to these sorts of things.
My many female fans reading this are surely jumping for joy at my 'fairness' issues :)

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09 ♂	Edited by: ShawnH Oct 1, 11, 05:03 #8
So the woman and her mother knew this guy was dangerous considering he had already hurt her before and threatened her. Yet he wasn't reported!?!? I guess this really illustrates the intelligence of Polish women. Give me a break. This is a typical abuser / victim relationship, regardless of the victims or the perp's nationality.

James693296	Oct 1, 11, 05:06 #9
Give me a break. This is a typical abuser / victim relationship, regardless of the victims or the perp's nationality. No, don't tell me to give you a break. That mother should have reported him. This could've been prevented.

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Oct 1, 11, 05:18 #10

That mother should have reported him. This could've been prevented.

From the link in the OP:

Miss Dziegielewska's parents Piotr and Jolanta Mlodzian flew from Poland for the inquest.

She was too scared to call in the police. Her mother, who spoke to her daughter every day by phone said: 'She was afraid of the consequences and an escalation of the violence on his side.'

When she finally plucked up the courage to ask her partner to leave he wrote 'I love you' in the snow outside and bought her flowers and a cake with candles for her 30th birthday.

By this time Miss Dziegielewska had begun a relationship with Mr Sandhall. Her parents came over from Poland to help their daughter sort things out with Abdollahzadeh.

Mrs Mlodzian said of him: 'He only cared about himself and nobody else. He considered himself the centre of the world without giving anything back.'

Mom and dad are in PL, not living with the victim at the time. They came over to help her out of the situation (unfortunately, unsuccessfully) and went home.

carrie65Threads: 2 Posts: 50 Joined: Sep 15, 11 ♀	Oct 1, 11, 13:07 #11
This is a really sad case, poor woman would have been better off going to a refuge or home with her parents for a while. I can't imagine why she would allow the murdrer into the house after all he had done! A lesson to all women I think, if they hit you once get right away quick!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 1, 11, 13:30 #12
I guess she betrayed him in some kind of arrangement.Perses were known from ancient times to punish ungratefullness.Probably he gave her part of his illegal money to pay for the house and then she decided to throw him out.All these are assumptions however I strongly advise against Arabs and their dubious arrangements.If you want to feel safe choose Balkan power.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Oct 1, 11, 17:08 #13
Why do polish women get imvolved with this scum asylum seeker third worldlers It is quite a common sight in and around the Rotherham area.

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 1, 11, 18:42 #14
It is quite a common sight in and around the Rotherham area. They are after her passport and nothing more, Pakistani and Middle Eastern men treat women like commodities, why some Polish women have no self respect and what they see in these men is beyond me.

carrie65Threads: 2 Posts: 50 Joined: Sep 15, 11 ♀	Oct 1, 11, 18:50 #15
Pakistani and Middle Eastern men treat women like commodities Beg to differ on this one, I have two friends who are married to Pakistani men and the men treat them like queens, they aren't strict, possesive or mean in any way, both women extremely happy! Can't say I'm hugely fond of Arab men but this has more to do with political views than anything else. Bad apples in every nation I think!

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Oct 1, 11, 22:51 #16
It is quite a common sight in and around the Rotherham area. Donny too,but the choice is usually Kurdish lads. From what I read on here though they are only a couple of years behind Polish men in their attitudes to women.....

KingAthelstanThreads: 14 Posts: 225 Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂	Oct 1, 11, 22:54 #17
couple of years behind Polish men in their attitudes to women..... couple light years

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08 ♂	Oct 2, 11, 19:09 #18
Very sad, very shocking, but at the same time not very surprising these days. I'm sure that when the British authorities try and deport Abdollahzadeh after he is out of prison, he will still be yelling about his "human rights".

Sidliste_ChodovThreads: 2 Posts: 683 Joined: Jul 27, 11 ♂	Oct 4, 11, 15:22 #19
why some Polish women have no self respect and what they see in these men is beyond me. Why would you care about Polish women anyway - you hate Poles and so-called "east Europeans"!

WedleThreads: 24 Posts: 786 Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Oct 4, 11, 15:34 #20
Pakistani men and the men treat them like queens Well at least for the first five years, until they get their prized EU passport... edit

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Edited by: Moderator Oct 6, 11, 00:07 #21

you hate Poles and so-called "east Europeans"!

I much prefer them to Pakis, Poles and other Eastern Europeans (at the end of the day you are still Europeans and we have some things in common (civilization), but Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Arabs come here withan alien barbaric medieval culture that demeans women like commodities,treat our own English women like easy meat, has no respect for our English ways and been let to fester in hostile Ghettos which we pander to out of ear of being called a racist.

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pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Oct 6, 11, 03:11 #22
KingAthelstan, stay on topic in your own thread. If you keep not following the forum rules, you'll get suspended.

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Oct 6, 11, 03:14 #23

KingAthelstan
I much prefer them to Pakis, Poles and other Eastern Europeans (at the end of the day you are still Europeans and we have some things in common (civilization), but Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Arabs come here withan alien barbaric medieval culture that demeans women like commodities,treat our own English women like easy meat, has no respect for our English ways and been let to fester in hostile Ghettos which we pander to out of ear of being called a racist.

I think you are realy right kingathelstan, They are from diffrent world and culture they cant adapted easy ,for my oppinion if you live where, you get use there culture and rules . yours was past ,now new culture time in new country not your country . Society in here they create this culture for long time and you come and cant change this ,you must to change yours, I know many Turkish cant adapted in germany for they spend many years but many of them they get used european culture mostley of who is from Big cities like İstanbul,Ankara, İzmir and they get used civiliezed in turkey already but who is from village or realy eastern they cant ,because even they cant adapted in big city life in Turkey ,istanbul was so polite and cultured before but last 30 years start to being like big village ,my family is 5 genaration Istanbuller some of them moved from selonike and kosovo. I can understand realy what you mean very well.But onley one think I dont understand if you want goverment stop immigrated from east you are right they are not adapted culture and they no respect european cultures 100% right you are. But if you dont like them and hate them dont go for help Afganistan,Iraq, Somali,Libya,Pakistan, why you care about them and what are you doing in their country? They live like stone ages in their country and why you go there and try to change them culture ? And dont go red sea in egypt for diving and dont go india for get nirvana, and dont go africa for safari just leave them with their live if you dont like them. You know whats is the realy problem? Not eastern not western not black not white not islam not fascism not communism not vs Problem is HUMAN.

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