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Polonius3Threads: 1,005
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I understand some of HM subjects prefer to be called English, Welsh, Scottish or N. Irish (Ulstermen?) rather than Britons. How do you feel about it and why? If you ran into a compatriot in Milan or Bangladesh would you be more likely to say: 'We're also from Britain!'?
SokratesThreads: 19
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They all live on an island, they're all black and addicted to tea, to me they're all jewish liberal n*ggers (with the possible exception of Shelley who's a scary person).
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: Seanus  Aug 20, 10, 15:11    #3
I'd say 'I'm Scottish' first and foremost :) Scotland is a separate country and there is a border which proves that ;) England has produced some of the best musicians ever but they are English, not Scottish. I do follow the British at the Olympics but, otherwise, I'm Scottish.

Sok, I think I had one cup of tea in 23 years in Scotland. I didn't really start drinking tea til I went to Japan :)
SokratesThreads: 19
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Seanus:
Sok, I think I had one cup of tea in 23 years in Scotland. I didn't really start drinking tea til I went to Japan :)

Thats because you're in denial of being a Brit, only deep denial can stop a Brit from enjoying his tea.
Seanus:
I'd say 'I'm Scottish' first and foremost :)

You live on a foggy muddy island, you speak english, you're a BRIT! There's variations to brits, there's scottish brits, irish brits, wannabe brits.

Offensive language removed.
AmathystThreads: 30
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Polonius3:
I understand some of HM subjects prefer to be called English, Welsh, Scottish or N. Irish (Ulstermen?) rather than Britons. How do you feel about it and why?


Because Im English, any man and his dog can obtain a British passport and call themsevles British..they can not however call themsevles English.

Polonius3:
If you ran into a compatriot in Milan or Bangladesh would you be more likely to say: 'We're also from Britain!'?


If they were my compatriots, Id probably say what city I was from as its pretty obvious which country Im from.

Polonius3:
N. Irish (Ulstermen?)


They're Northern Irish as far as I am concerned, others and a lot of them included call themselves British.

Ulster is a place..just like Belfast..Not a country.

Scots hate the English and prefer to be called Scots, never met a Scot her referred to himself / herself as British

Welsh are proud of being Welsh and prefer to be called Welsh and Ive never heard a Welsh person call themselves British either.

Cornish people also prefer to be called Cornish rather than British.

English people generally prefer to be referred to as English, even though we dont get the choice to put this on official forms..the option is British white..Most scrub this out and write English there though :D
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 20, 10, 15:24    #6
Or the simple fact that I didn't like tea back then ;)

Of course I am a Brit too but Scottish first and foremost. Are you Ukrainian or Russian, Sok?
zetigrekThreads: 59
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Amathyst:
Because Im English, any man and his dog can obtain a British passport and call themsevles British..they can not however call themsevles English.


That's strange I've heard of ppl of Asian descent who born in Wales and they call themselves (and are called by others) Welsh...
SokratesThreads: 19
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Seanus:
Are you Ukrainian or Russian, Sok?

Nope, its the ukrainians and Russians who're Polish!
milkyThreads: 10
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Seanus:
Scotland is a separate country and there is a border which proves that

Well the occupied six counties of the north of Ireland are not British and we have a sea to prove it but the people who think otherwise are brits.
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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I say I'm English. Some people refer to me as English and some call me British. Doesn't bother me in the slightest what they call me.

Is this a non topic or what?
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szarlotka:
Doesn't bother me in the slightest what they call me.


Ok, I will call you Billy, is that ok with you?

:)

>^..^<

M-G (Billy as in goat? Nah - just Billy)
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MareGaea:
I will call you Billy, is that ok with you?


Yes. It's better than Charlotte or Welsh so it's fine by me your highness.
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zetigrek:
That's strange I've heard of ppl of Asian descent who born in Wales and they call themselves (and are called by others) Welsh...


So you know a lot of people from Wales then? These Asians can call themsevles whatever they like..they're not Welsh..They're for the most part 1st generation British born Pakistanis or Indians..nothing more.

Sokrates:
with the possible exception of Shelley who's a scary person


only possible.ya cheeky sod! :D Im not scary, Im lovely :D
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Amathyst:
So you know a lot of people from Wales then? These Asians can call themsevles whatever they like..they're not Welsh..They're for the most part 1st generation British born Pakistanis or Indians..nothing more.

No. I've just thought that's another invention of british political correctness...
trener zolwiaThreads: 5
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Seanus:
Of course I am a Brit too but Scottish first and foremost.

Of course. If peeps are in the UK they are England subjects and are Brits. Though many seem to be in denial...
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Polonius3:
How do you feel about it and why?

When Poland lost its independance for 300 years were the people German/Russian or Polish?
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When Poland lost its independance for 300 years were the people German/Russian or Polish?

for 120 but I get it ;)
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AdamKadmon:

What do you think about deliberations on the subject

What relevance is this to Scotland ? This Yale lecturer has read approved Brit histories and is totally ignorant of the processes that were going on in Scotland.

AdamKadmon:
From where would the revolutionary ranks have come?

What does Colley say about the Scottish insurrection of 1820 ?
AdamKadmon:
The biggest riots in the eighteenth century were the Gordon riots,

These did not happen in Scotland.
The biggest riots were against the Act of Union in 1707.
Not forgetting the Jacobite rebellions.

AdamKadmon:
miserable council houses with these big pictures of Margaret Thatcher or the royal family

PMSL.

AdamKadmon:
They see themselves as British

Because there are no f**** tories in Scotland !
wildroverThreads: 180
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I am English...and not that keen on tea at all...
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I'm from a mixed race family (Scottish and English). Born and brought up in England but followed various Scottish customs in the family. Brother was born in Scotland.

I have no problem being called a Brit... Probably best description of me. It also saves arguments with Scottish nationalists who object to me referring to myself as Scottish.
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zetigrek:
No. I've just thought that's another invention of british political correctness...


You are partly right, with the influx of our colonial cousins they had to find a way to ensure we all "bonded" and lumping us all in one was wonderful way of doing it..please feel free to look it up.
plk123Threads: 30
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Seanus:
Are you Ukrainian or Russian, Sok?

american polish. lol

szarlotka:
Is this a non topic or what?

most of Op's topics are this way, no? lol

szkotja2007:
independance for 300 years

123 and then 44/50
omalleyThreads: 2
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Lets all just be called European and have a nice group hug. x
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omalley:
Lets all just be called European and have a nice group hug.


Yeah and if we all sang Kumbayah it would be perfect :)

Ah well, the future will be that we all will be called Europeans anyway and like the US, it'll be sth like "I'm European from the Netherlands" or any other country of course.

>^..^<

M-G (back to the core, I say)
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MareGaea:

Ah well, the future will be that we all will be called Europeans anyway and like the US, it'll be sth like "I'm European from the Netherlands" or any other country of course.


I like that idea. Why not? At least some Brits won't tell me Pole go back to Poland!!!!
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Polonius3:
N. Irish (Ulstermen?)

At this moment in history, 'Ulster' is made up of 9 counties, 6 in Britain and 3 in the Republic of Ireland.
So it would be inaccurate to call people of Ulster British.
sobieskiThreads: 82
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You mean, like Polish hard-core nationalists think Kashubians are (if of the Tusk variety) are not real Polish?
By the way my wife is a true Góralka, and she thinks of herself first of all of being a Góralka and then Polish.
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SeanBM:
At this moment in history, 'Ulster' is made up of 9 counties, 6 in Britain and 3 in the Republic of Ireland.
So it would be inaccurate to call people of Ulster British.

and Donegal is the very north so Northern Ireland is inaccurate as well.
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SeanBM:
At this moment in history, 'Ulster' is made up of 9 counties, 6 in Britain and 3 in the Republic of Ireland.
So it would be inaccurate to call people of Ulster British.


Sorry, they're not in Britain, they're in UK. I often found it amusing when 'Ulstermen' referred to me as a 'Brit'.

I always liked the term "6 counties".

When I was at Queen's Belfast, one of the (Irish) lecturers told us a story of when he went to the doctor's. The doc asked if he drank. He replied, "This is Ireland, you have to drink!" The doc replied, "This is Ulster, and you don't!"

I once had a protestant Ulsterman ask me what most Brits thought of his kind as. I commented most Brits would probably think of him as 'Irish' (not necessarily knowing the difference). He nodded woefully, "Aye, I was afraid ye'd say that!"
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Joined: May 28, 09 ♀ 		 Aug 23, 10, 00:35    #30
Better to be called a Brit than to be called a Brat.

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