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RevokeNiceThreads: 21
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Joined: Jun 20, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 20:54    #31
Brave women whom spoke the truth. No whites cannot truly be British/Irish/Polish/Greek/German.

A piece of papers does not over-ride thousands of years worth of history and heritage.

She should have called them what they are, non white planters.

"We do the jobs you wont do". - Some african black.

- Yet blacks, on a per capita basis, are overly reliant on social welfare, compared to the locals across western europe, Australia, America and Canada.

The scary thing is, the black probably believes it herself due to the media peddling of lies and propaganda.
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Joined: Jul 3, 09  Pictures: 2  Gold Member MEMBER ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 20:57    #32
Sidliste_Chodov:
Ultimately, it's the treacherous Government and their friends (landlords, estate agents, lawyers and similar assorted scum) who are ultimately responsible, so it's not really right to blame "the immigrant".

That was a great post but id like to point out that the ultimate fault lies within the monetary system.
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 21:04    #33
grubas:
Here's that clip.


This poor woman is really upset and embittered. Obviously, she is from the lower class, probably just lost her job or hasn`t been able to find any for some time. Or her partner split up with her.
I am really sorry for her.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 21:06    #34
RN, society plays a part in pushing them into those jobs and making them somewhat dependent. It's about being realistic about things. I mean, could you earn like Beckham earns? Or a top businessman? If not, why not? You roll with who you are and everyone has to eat and satisfy their physiological needs. One strong strong point on the side of immigrants is that they tend not to complain about their lot. They invariably look for cheaper options and can live on a shoestring, foregoing a more opulent life. That woman came across as a disgruntled hack that needs to get off her backside. Now, I understand the frustrations of those that unfairly lost their jobs to foreigners but they are very much in the minority. The majority fall prey to the natural process of competition for places. The rules are as fair as they can be in that respect as there are set procedures in place. It's also about tolerance. If I feel that I am not getting a fair crack of the whip in my own country and have worked to try and put myself to where I want to be, then I may have a case. However, the swarms of Africans, Central+Eastern Europeans and Chinese don't put me off at all. A certain amount of mixing should exist and it is as it is. An adult will approach the position in that manner. Who really hears outbursts anyway and how are they often taken? That's my position!
a.k.  Nov 29, 11, 21:07    #35
Sidliste_Chodov:
a lot of former Polish immigrants and their descendants do not agree with mass immigration from Poland either!


Read that sentence carefully and tell me if you don't see a contraction here... if you put together the key-words then you have:

immigrants do not agree with immigration

Btw, Sid do you feel more Polish or British?
beckskiThreads: 19
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Joined: May 15, 07  Pictures: 3  Gold Member MEMBER ♀ 		 Nov 29, 11, 21:11    #36
polly:
The footage (contains language which viewers may find disturbing)


I lost count of how many times the looney tune used the F word. I feel sorry for her poor child.

A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!
RevokeNiceThreads: 21
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Joined: Jun 20, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		Edited by: RevokeNice  Nov 29, 11, 21:13    #37
Seanus:
RN, society plays a part in pushing them into those jobs and making them somewhat dependent.


Yes, affirmitive action, minority(thats a joke, whites make up just 8% of the global population) status/scholarships, dozens of legislation favouring them and racial quotas really pushes them onto the welfare scrapheap.

Seanus:
One strong strong point on the side of immigrants is that they tend not to complain about their lot.


In Poland, perhaps. As they would be told where to go.

The west is a different story.

They are molly coddled, put on a pedestal and praised to the high heavens.

Good luck throwing away the nations that your grandparents and countless generations before you cherished, fought for and built.

Still, once you overweight people get to gorge yourselfs on msg riddled ethnic food and get a slice of a glorified cheese and tomato sandwich after a feed of beer, it will be worth it, eh?
hague1cmaeronThreads: 21
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Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 21:18    #38
She might me as stupid as as stupid can be and most probably drugged up to the eyeballs, and she probably never reads the paper but it's obvious to see that the Daily Mail mantra is very well drummed into her. She's just a reflection of her own society.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 21:37    #39
RN, I don't understand what you were trying to say in the first part of your response. My point was that a minority of Brits are forced out of their jobs by sneakily being replaced by cheaper labour in the form of immigrants. That was what my reference to minority was about.

No, not just Poland. Blacks and Asians too. Africans don't tend to moan, Asians either.

What did they build exactly and what has been taken away by immigrants?

Everything is a choice, RN. I know Chinese food contains MSG but I still love it. I make an informed choice. I'm grateful for having that choice. Also, I won't fall into the trap of not perceiving overall utility. Blacks in my home city in Scotland don't offer me what the Chinese or Indians do, for example. However, they benefit some people and a certain part of the economy at large. If they play the game then I have no qualms.
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Turns out she has been receiving mental health treatment for the past 16 years.
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Joined: Sep 13, 11 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:04    #41
RevokeNice:
The scary thing is, the black probably believes it herself due to the media peddling of lies and propaganda.


The Blairist Media - Guardianista/BBC crap have done allot to brainwash people into believing in a multicultural utopia. would that same women in Russia even if she was born there have said, I AM Russian? No because nothing in her extanal envoiment around her would have lef her to believe she was Russian.Englandis the Only country in Europe ( exept maybe France) that denies the very right of its citizens to declare themselves as English we are all simply White,which is basically an American concept that has been foisted on us. Would anyone question the right of an Ethnic Serb in Croatia to say they are Serbs or an ethnic Hungarian in Romania?

apparently anyone with a piece of paper after living here for 5 years becomes 'Breeeteeesh' as the women said.

I can fully understand the underlying frustrations that caused the women to vent her spleen, I do not condone the way it was done or doing it in front of her child.
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Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:08    #42
polly:
why she bring polish poeple name there?

because there are freekin millions of you here.............
MalopolaninThreads: 8
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Joined: Sep 5, 10 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:19    #43
So called England: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4pLnK_X4U

I support freedom of speech.
blackadderThreads: 4
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Joined: Jun 28, 07  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:35    #44
This cute toddler is future skinhead.So sad.
Why so much hate guys?I don't care if my daughter will marry black man,asian or hindu if he's a good and decent man.
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modafinil:
Turns out she has been receiving mental health treatment for the past 16 years.

I knew that when I heard her talking. She looks manic depressant, wouldn't let anyone else have a word until she was 100% sure everyone heard her well and she got her point across. Maybe that (immigrants) was bothering her but manic depressants will find something else to be sad about in no time. Example of one Mike Tyson...
blackadderThreads: 4
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Joined: Jun 28, 07  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:49    #46
English national football team forwards as for now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Welbeck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Bent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Sturridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermain_Defoe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Cole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Agbonlahor

Whites are Caroll,Crouch and Rooney.They are all English when your team is winning,but in ordinary life they are ''apes''.Racism is cancer of society,and never brings nothing good.
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KingAthelstan:
Englandis the Only country in Europe ( exept maybe France) that denies the very right of its citizens to declare themselves as English we are all simply White,which is basically an American concept that has been foisted on us. Would anyone question the right of an Ethnic Serb in Croatia to say they are Serbs or an ethnic Hungarian in Romania?


You have a point there. Something is not right about a Polish couple coming over here, having a child, and then that child being declared white British alongside little Johnny Smith who can trace some roots back into the Domesday book. Englander's are slowly being neutralised.
Even in US some will still identify themselves as WASPs. It's F'cked that you have to leave England to say you are English.
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Joined: Nov 29, 11 ♀ 		 Nov 29, 11, 22:54    #48
Racists like that make my skin crawl. Deja vu some 80years ago? What happened to history lessons?!
rozumiemnicThreads: 4
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Christina66:
Deja vu some 80years ago?

a silly comparison. Look at other people's reactions around her.
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modafinil:
You have a point there. Something is not right about a Polish couple coming over here, having a child, and then that child being declared white British alongside little Johnny Smith who can trace some roots back into the Domesday book. Englander's are slowly being neutralised.
Even in US some will still identify themselves as WASPs. It's F'cked that you have to leave England to say you are English.

Well if haven't been for barbarian invasion on Rome,British legions would stay and you would be proud Roman.Same for me,I'm not Turk only because their Sultan died and we had time to organise defence.You aren't speaking French or Norwegian only by coincidence.Today's borders define tomorrow's patriots.
Tolerance lads,come on!
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Joined: Dec 7, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 23:03    #51
modafinil:
Even in US some will still identify themselves as WASPs. It's F'cked that you have to leave England to say you are English.


Don't bring up WASPs those were f'in ********!! white Catholics, Irish, Poles, Italians southern Europeans were all being discriminated against for a long time. Being denied jobs or getting beat up in the work place (until about the time of WWII) It was official US policy to limit immigration from eastern and southern Europe in favor of anglo-saxons.
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Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂ 		Edited by: Teffle  Nov 29, 11, 23:04    #52
Surprised more didn't speak up, and earlier in the clip.

Guess her kid "protected" her from most reactions.

Whizzin' away BTW - I'm almost certain.
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Teffle:
Surprised more didn't speak up, and earlier in the clip.

Guess her kid "protected" her from most reactions.

She was hiding behind a child.Too bad that black lady didn't biatch slapped her.
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Teffle:
Whizzin' away BTW - I'm almost certain.

deffo
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 23:12    #55
She was lucky not to have received a beating for that. Restraint clearly prevailed.
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Joined: Jul 27, 11 ♂ 		Edited by: Sidliste_Chodov  Nov 29, 11, 23:16    #56
Wroclaw Boy:
but id like to point out that the ultimate fault lies within the monetary system.


Agreed ;)

a.k.:
Read that sentence carefully and tell me if you don't see a contraction here...


A contradiction it may well appear to be. However, it's not quite as simple as you may think.

This country has changed out of all recognition since my parents came over - back in those days, there was way too much work, and not enough workers to do it. When my mum came over, it was possible to walk out of a job which didn't suit you on a Friday, and find another one for Monday. Now, we have way too few jobs, but unprecedented levels of immigration continue unabated. This affects everyone, irrespective of ethnic origin, and it doesn't matter whether they consider themselves "indigenous" or not. The situation in 2011 is simply not the same as it was when the Windrush sailed.

a.k.:
Btw, Sid do you feel more Polish or British?


Having endured ethnic insults from both Polish natives and white Britons, I feel stuck somewhere in between. Rootless, if you wish.

Seanus:
She was lucky not to have received a beating for that. Restraint clearly prevailed.


My point exactly (earlier), Seanus. Though Croydon's a bit whiter than much of south London, even being a woman isn't going to be any protection - I've seen black girls pull knives on people in shops and on trains for a lot less than this, which is why I'm not 100% sure that this was a genuinely spontaneous outburst. Unless, of course (as others have mentioned), she's mad, and everyone who was there took this into consideration - in which case, her mental health is why she's lucky to be alive.

btw, Mods: the title is wrong - this was in south London (the tramlink doesn't run in east London).
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Sidliste_Chodov:
This country has changed out of all recognition since my parents came over

my dad just told me that incidents like that were not uncommon back in 1958 when he came over....just they were quieter, oh, and didn't get posted on youtube obviously....;)
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rozumiemnic:
my dad just told me that incidents like that were not uncommon back in 1958 when he came over....just they were quieter, oh, and didn't get posted on youtube obviously....;)


Upload speeds weren't that great until after ARPANET, to be fair ;)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 29, 11, 23:33    #59
Sorry Sid, I didn't read all the posts :(

If I, for some inexplicable reason, started a rant against Poles on a tram here then I know that I'd be in for more than a bit of stick. Ah, the joys of being rational and reasoned :) :)
a.k.  Nov 29, 11, 23:34    #60
Sidliste_Chodov:
When my mum came over, it was possible to walk out of a job which didn't suit you on a Friday, and find another one for Monday.


You see, in Poland where there is no such mass immigration, you can't change a work from day to day too.

Sidliste_Chodov:
Now, we have way too few jobs, but unprecedented levels of immigration continue unabated.


Really? You mean an emigration from Poland? From Poland no one is emigrating to Great Britain since the half of 2007. It ended already and now people who made it stay there because in Poland there is no prospetives, seriously!

Sidliste_Chodov:
The situation in 2011 is simply not the same as it was when the Windrush sailed.


When Windrush sailed people were massively working in factories which you shut down in the 80s. So maybe it's not the fault of immigrants, eh? New people make new work places, isn't it that? Let's take a hairdresser as an example. A hairdresser can serve some amount of people in a day. When there is too much people that one hairdresser can serve then a next hairdresser is needed. That's how it works I believe. So it's not like that there is some fixed amount of work place which are now filled because of immigartion influx. It's just that an economic situation doesn't allow to make more work places or even make them to dissapear. That's how I understand it.

Sidliste_Chodov:
Having endured ethnic insults from both Polish natives


You mean on this site?

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