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Adam Andrzejewski Is running for Governor of Illinois !!!!


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BabinichThreads: 1
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Adam Andrzejewski and Dan Proft are both excellent candidates.
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TheOther:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_ terms

See the read ink and to which presidents it is connected? Obama inherited a giant mess from Bush and his Republican cronies. Without the war in Iraq, the USA would have saved like what? Answer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War

Obama made some big mistakes (like bailing out AIG, GM and others), IMHO, but the source of most problems this country currently faces is the previous administration.

IT"S THE ECONOMY STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wikpedia !! LOL !!!! Is this where u get your stuff, anyone can edit it, even a liar like Obama !!! LOL, you crack me up. why dont you look for some real news. This thread is about Adam and his election, so the rest of your posts will be ignored. And I will turn you in as a harraser if you dont stop. GO AWAY !!!!!
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You're the perfect example of a confused conservative... :)
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Seanus:
Maybe his Polish blood is what is needed.

MAYBE SO !!!!! :-) He is a good man, and will do what is right for Illinois !!! Please vote for him.
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Kaczor Duck:
And I will turn you in as a harraser if you dont stop. GO AWAY !!!!!

Yeah beat it, Other. A.) You're Austrailian. B.) You live in California. Illinois needs Republican leadership right now. You don't know anything about either.
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scrappleton:
Yeah beat it. You live in California

LOL. Where do you live once again, Scrap?
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TheOther:
LOL. Where do you live once again, Scrap?

Cali.. but I'm not giving these people sh.t advice now am I? Plus I've been to Illinois several times.
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AdamForIllinois:
Famous Hispanic Actor Endorses Adam!

Is this "an-gee"'s strategy, to get ethnic figures to endorse him?

Seems a funny strategy if he's concentrating on core, White American values. I can't imagine many "I drive a truck and I like my guns" voters will be particularly thrilled with a candidate who's lining up minority after minority after minority. What is he, a wannabe Democrat?

It's a shame that An-gee is another one in a long line of "wah wah I'm Republican and so I can't cooperate with Democrats" - from the sounds of things, the last thing Illinois needs is a governor who is going to be constantly fighting with the Democratic legislature.
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TheOther:
That's not entirely true. Small banks all over the country go down the drain at the moment, so consumers deposit their assets in the bigger banks. Is your money safe there? Maybe safer than in a small bank, but completely safe - no. Even big players like the Bank of America are still in danger to go bankrupt, and the FDIC just gives me peace of mind, that's all.

Actually, FDIC allows banks to be a lot riskier with your money. You should have an interest in what people do with your money. Small banks that have made stupid investments should be going down the drain (most are getting bought out). Big banks should have been allowed to fail. Had we allowed the behemoths to go down, and removed some of the regulation which only allows multibillion dollar enterprises to be in the banking system due to cost, we might be in a decent situation where you have your neighborhood bank or credit union, and you know what's going on. Banking based on trust, what a novel idea...
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convex:
You should have an interest in what people do with your money.

Yeah, like the confiscatory policy that is Social Security?
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delphiandomine:
the last thing Illinois needs is a governor who is going to be constantly fighting with the Democratic legislature.


The Governor has certain executive privileges just like the President does, there are several options that he will have.

The state legislature fought off Blagoviech most of the time and he was a Democrat.

Youre a Limey tosser, now go fek off and bow to your Old Hag Queen....lol
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scrappleton:
but I'm not giving these people sh.t advice now am I

Nor did I. If some of Illinois' Americans of Polish descent are stupid enough to fall for the cheap tricks of this guy - so be it. I couldn't care less. But don't tell me I cannot have an opinion about this wannabe governor and his dubious tactics. Or is Freedom of Speech only for ultra-conservatives these days?

convex:
Actually, FDIC allows banks to be a lot riskier with your money. You should have an interest in what people do with your money.

I agree, but for consumers the FDIC is the only security they have at the moment. And the banks will never be so transparent that you can track what they do with your cash.

convex:
Big banks should have been allowed to fail.

Not so sure about that. Do you think there would have been enough money in the FDIC to cover the losses of everyone? In the end the tax payer would have had to shoulder the bill, or many people would have gone home empty-handed.
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Babinich,

Proft is not a good candidate. He is not married, supports abortion, and he has helped congressional liberals get elected in prior elections. He is trying to shoot down Adam's campaign by taking down his huge signs along highways and yard signs. It's ridiculous.

Tom
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TheOther:
Not so sure about that. Do you think there would have been enough money in the FDIC to cover the losses of everyone? In the end the tax payer would have had to shoulder the bill, or many people would have gone home empty-handed.

There are lots of institutions out there that are financially sound. Most of the time, the FDIC is just playing the role of the liquidator.

Babinich:
Yeah, like the confiscatory policy that is Social Security?

It's theft. Government employees can opt out, why can't other workers?

The worrisome thing about the trust fund is that in order for it to work, US treasuries have to pay out higher than the rate of inflation. I think the trillions that were recently injected will ripple down and hurt the trust fund...badly, very badly.
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AdamForIllinois:
He is not married,

So good candidates have to be married?

I suspect Jarosław Kaczyński and Zbigniew Ziobro might have a thing to say about that.
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AdamForIllinois:
Proft is not a good candidate. He is not married,

What does marriage have to do with anything? I thought this was about electing the best person for Illinois, not about electing the person with the most right wing values!

supports abortion,

Ah, ye olde Republican insult.

and he has helped congressional liberals get elected in prior elections.

And what exactly is wrong with bipartisanship in a time of crisis? Just think what could be achieved if most Republicans dropped their "I must oppose because I'm a Republican" attitude and instead worked with Democrats?

He is trying to shoot down Adam's campaign by taking down his huge signs along highways and yard signs. It's ridiculous.

I'm sure Adam's supporters wouldn't dream of taking down the opposition's banners. It's called politics, get used to it!
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It's not ALL that important that politicians are married but many voters do care about that. Adam and all the remaining candidates said they would work with the Democrats in Springfield so he will reach across the aisle.
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AdamForIllinois

Adam,

Unless Proft is lying he stated during the WTTW debate two nights ago that he was pro-life.

Mr. Andrzejewski also stated that if he (Mr. Andrzejewski) were not in the race he'd support Proft.

AdamForIllinois,

I solidly support Mr. Andrzejewski; I will not waiver.

Here is what I DON'T want:
Bill Brady or Andy McKenna as the nominee.
AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1
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Amen Babinich!

I can't wait till tomorrow, huge day for the campaign. And I am speaking of my own words but I heard Proft is known as a "pocket-book" conservative. In all seriousness, he has helped local liberals get elected. Point is, Adam is the right one and would be the best for the general election!

Tom
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Babinich:
Unless Proft is lying he stated during the WTTW debate two nights ago that he was pro-life.

Ahh, so now we have Republicans accusing each other of being pro-abortion when they're actually not. How disgusting.

AdamForIllinois:
In all seriousness, he has helped local liberals get elected.

Source?
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Proft's comments on abortion were questionable.

"Roe v. Wade is bad constitutional law, inconsistent with our God-given right to life and should be overturned," Proft said. "In addition to an important policy issue, this is a personal issue for me as I was born approximately nine months before the Roe decision and I was adopted. Thus, had the law been a bit different a bit earlier, perhaps the world would never have been availed of my brilliance."

I was shocked when I was informed of Proft's quote. Some say he was simply being jocular in his response which essentially says if Roe v. Wade were enacted before his birth, we would not be "availed" of his "brilliance."

http://rffm.typepad.com/republicans_for_fair_medi/2010/01/dan-profts-c omment-to-daily-herald-on-right-to-life-issue-funny-or-vision-into-a-m ans-soul.html


http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2010/01/proft-release s-new-video.html?cid=6a00d834515c5469e20120a81b8c79970b

Adam has superior and very well thought out policy. Dan dishes out the red meat to the audience better than Adam, but this election is more about real policy and reform, not polished talk-show hosts. Dan has helped many liberals get elected and can't get my vote for that reason.

It's when he was working in Cicero for your information. Proft is just not clear on his issues and is a "pocket-book" conservative.
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delphiandomine:
Ahh, so now we have Republicans accusing each other of being pro-abortion when they're actually not. How disgusting.

The state of Illinois cannot pay its bills. The bond rating of the state falling, and no one seems dumb enough to keep the ponzi scheme going (buying state bonds) based on the current behavior of the current office holders.

What is disgusting is the results provided by the current office holder in the state of Illinois.

Illinois is a microcosm on the country.
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AdamForIllinois:
Proft's comments on abortion were questionable.

What is questionable about a candidate who says in black and white that Roe vs Wade is bad law and should be overturned?

AdamForIllinois:
I was shocked when I was informed of Proft's quote. Some say he was simply being jocular in his response which essentially says if Roe v. Wade were enacted before his birth, we would not be "availed" of his "brilliance."

Shocked? What's there to be shocked about? He was clearly joking when it comes to the "brilliance" part - yet making the very serious point that he wouldn't exist today if abortion was legal. If anything, I'm glad to see that there's a candidate with a (black) sense of humour!

AdamForIllinois:
Adam has superior and very well thought out policy. Dan dishes out the red meat to the audience better than Adam, but this election is more about real policy and reform, not polished talk-show hosts. Dan has helped many liberals get elected and can't get my vote for that reason.

What liberals are these? Or are these the imaginary liberals that every real Republicans is terrified of, like AIDS and homosexuality?

Adam has superior policy? If paying Lech Walesa and other ethnic minority leaders to endorse him is 'superior', then there's no hope for American politics. Speaking of Adam, how can you take a candidate seriously who talks like a 12 year old boy?

Babinich:
The state of Illinois cannot pay its bills. The bond rating of the state falling, and no one seems dumb enough to keep the ponzi scheme going (buying state bonds) based on the current behavior of the current office holders.

Sure, the scene is set for an outsider. But by outsider, I mean a Ventura in Minnesota style outsider, not someone practicing the same old politics. And I'm sorry - but how can you take a candidate seriously who claims to be Polish, yet can't even order a beer in his language?

Babinich:
What is disgusting is the results provided by the current office holder in the state of Illinois.

Well, if you believe that an unexperienced politician who is preaching the same old Republican words can lead Illinois out of difficulty, combined with a hostile legislature - well...you deserve all you get.
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You know, you're the only one on here who is still making opposing statements against Adam and his supporters on this thread.
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AdamForIllinois:
You know, you're the only one on here who is still making opposing statements against Adam and his supporters on this thread.

Dissent is never a bad thing. Refute him to strengthen your argument.
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You're right, convex... Just to let everyone know, that event with Walesa today was a true honor. And after that, the Chicago Tea Party organized a rally for Adam and senate candidates Patrick Hughes and Don Lowery. We literally froze out there but it was so worth it! Check out ABC, I know they were for sure filming it.
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Well, well, well!

Look what little delphian found!

Andrzejewski¹s grandfather came from Poland but he had never visited his ancestral home until November when Atlanta businessman Witold Zabinski brought him over and introduced him to Gil and other Walesa friends. Andrzejewski grew up bailing hay in Kankakee County where his father ran as a Democrat against then-state legislator George Ryan.

Never visited Poland until November, eh? So he doesn't speak Polish and only visited Poland for the first time when he was 40. Hmm.

A Democrat? A DEMOCRAT? Kept that one quiet, didn't you? Obviously Adam doesn't want it public that his father was a "liberal" :)

Source : http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/01/illinois_governor_primary_frid .html

(I shall be waiting keenly for the rebuttal)
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delphiandomine:
A Democrat? A DEMOCRAT? Kept that one quiet, didn't you? Obviously Adam doesn't want it public that his father was a "liberal" :)

He'll probably be alright. Family history doesn't really play as much of a roll as it does on the island. We're alright with it, Reagan started off as a Democrat.
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delphiandomine:
Never visited Poland until November, eh? So he doesn't speak Polish and only visited Poland for the first time when he was 40. Hmm.

So what, Do you really think that is going to be an issue over here?

Why dont you worry about Parliament instead of the State of Illinois political elections.

Honestly, dont you Limeys have anything else better to do??
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sledz:
So what, Do you really think that is going to be an issue over here?

Shame on the other candidates for not picking up on it and running with it. Maybe our politicans in both Poland and the UK are just much more on the ball ;)

sledz:
Why dont you worry about Parliament instead of the State of Illinois political elections.

I presume then, you won't be commenting on any issues that don't affect you from now on?

convex:
He'll probably be alright. Family history doesn't really play as much of a roll as it does on the island. We're alright with it, Reagan started off as a Democrat.

(thank you for not being irrational!)

How common is floor-crossing in America?

I'm suprised family history doesn't play a big part, because American commentators always seem to mention "oh, he had a Polish great-great grandmother which makes him Polish-American with Dutch roots" or such nonsense - an interesting contradiction in American politics, I guess. But then again, American politics are very fascinating, because the whole system is completely different to what you find in Europe.

It has to be said, this thread has got me very interested in the Illinois election!
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