Adam Andrzejewski Is running for Governor of Illinois !!!!

ZIMMY:

Illinois has a semi-open system.

* Closed. People may vote in a party's primary only if they are registered members of that party. Independents cannot participate. Note that because some political parties name themselves independent, the term "non-partisan" often replaces "independent" when referring to those who are not affiliated with a political party.
* Semi-closed. As in closed primaries, registered party members can vote only in their own party's primary. Semi-closed systems, however, allow unaffiliated voters to participate as well. Depending on the state, independents either make their choice of party primary privately, inside the voting booth, or publicly, by registering with any party on Election Day.
* Open. A registered voter may vote in any party primary regardless of his own party affiliation. When voters do not register with a party before the primary, it is called a pick-a-party primary because the voter can select which party's primary he or she wishes to vote in on election day. Because of the open nature of this system, a practice known as raiding may occur. Raiding consists of voters of one party crossing over and voting in the primary of another party, effectively allowing a party to help choose its opposition's candidate. The theory is that opposing party members vote for the weakest candidate of the opposite party in order to give their own party the advantage in the general election. An example of this can be seen in the 1998 Vermont senatorial primary with the election of Fred Tuttle for the Republican candidate.
* Semi-open. A registered voter must not publicly declare which political party's primary that they will vote in before entering the voting booth. When a voter identifies their self to the election officials, they must request a party's specific ballot. Only one ballot is cast by the voter. In many states with semi-open primaries, election officials or poll workers from their respective parties record each voter's choice of party and provide access to this information. The primary difference between a semi-open and open primary system is the use of a party-specific ballot. In a semi-open primary, a public declaration in front of the election judges is made and a party-specific ballot given to the voter to cast. Certain states that use the open-primary format may print a single ballot and the voter must choose on the ballot itself which political party's candidates they will select for a contested office.
* Run-off. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to one party and the top two candidates advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation. (A run-off differs from a primary in that a second round is only needed if no candidate attains a majority in the first round.)

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scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1452 Joined: Apr 28, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 05:17 #201
TheOther: Illinois Republicans Of which Lincoln was one.

sledzThreads: 26 Posts: 2978 Joined: Sep 19, 06 Gender: Male	Edited by: sledz Feb 2, 10, 05:23 #202
TheOther: Which is actually rocket science for Illinois Republicans... :) Compared to who Blagoviech? Our soon to be convicted felon,,, Impeached Governor Ya, lets put another crooked Democratic Chicago Politician in office, thats the ticket!!!

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 88 Joined: Jan 13, 10 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 06:23 #203
Amen to those voting for Adam! Polls open within 8 hours and end in about 14. Let's make this happen!

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: delphiandomine Feb 2, 10, 11:22 #204
AdamForIllinois: The last candidate Walesa endorsed was RONALD REAGAN... Adam stands for Reagan principles our state badly needs. Let me explain something to you. Walesa was leader of Solidarity. Solidarity was a trade union. Solidarity demanded at one point (during Walesa's reign) the right for unemployed workers to be paid the same as employed workers. Therefore Walesa endorsed a programme of socialism! Heck, one of Solidarity's key points was that factories should be ran and owned by the workers - with the workers getting the profit. That's not really...a core Republican value, is it? I know you're really struggling to understand this, but Andrzejewski was endorsed by Lech Walesa, a SOCIALIST. As for why Walesa endorsed Reagan - it's simple, Reagan saw the Soviet Union as the Evil Empire. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? Please try and understand, you're giving America a bad name!

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 88 Joined: Jan 13, 10 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 12:15 #205
No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference.

convexThreads: 13 Posts: 1150 Joined: Nov 25, 09 Gender: Male GOLD MEMBER	Edited by: convex Feb 2, 10, 12:21 #206
AdamForIllinois: No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference. And you're kind of a dick. Adam Andrzejewski is the best candidate for the job in Illinois. He's not much different from the other politicians that Illinois has produced over the years. He paid a socialist to come over and lend his support to motivate the Polish base. He still remains the lesser evil.

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 14:25 #207
AdamForIllinois: No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference. So ethnic slurs is also what Adam Andrzejewski stands for? Fantastic - he's just got Walesa and some Hispanic dude to endorse him, but his volunteers are abusing strangers on the internet about being foreign. That makes sense! Maybe I should get in touch with Adam and advise him to...be more selective about who volunteers for him in future. convex: Adam Andrzejewski is the best candidate for the job in Illinois. He's not much different from the other politicians that Illinois has produced over the years. He paid a socialist to come over and lend his support to motivate the Polish base. He still remains the lesser evil. See, you can do it rationally...why on earth can't the rest of them? :( (I thought he wasn't a bad candidate, but being endorsed by Limbaugh isn't a good thing...)

Jasia	Feb 2, 10, 16:07 #208
AdamForIllinois: No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference. OMG! That's just the sort of attitude that makes Americans so ahhhrrrrr! I can't believe you would say such a thing. Who are you? You have no shame.

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 88 Joined: Jan 13, 10 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 18:46 #209
To Jasia: Those weren't my words just letting you know. If you weren't a part of the 6 pages of comments in this thread, then you're a bit too late. Tom

jonniThreads: 18 Posts: 1802 Joined: Nov 27, 07 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 19:19 #211
scrappleton: don't let retard Americans Your words. Your description.

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1452 Joined: Apr 28, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 19:51 #213
jonni: Your words. Your description. No Limey.. they're typically your words. Strange this "special relationship".

jonniThreads: 18 Posts: 1802 Joined: Nov 27, 07 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 19:58 #214
scrappleton: typically your words My words? Do tell...

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 156 Joined: Jun 20, 07 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 04:40 #215
Anyone know how Adam is doing in the primary yet???

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1452 Joined: Apr 28, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 18:59 #210
delphiandomine: So ethnic slurs is also what Adam Andrzejewski stands for? Limey is not an ethnic slur.. Limey is a nationality. C'mon don't let retard Americans point basic things out to you. :(

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1097 Joined: Jul 13, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 2, 10, 19:24 #212
AdamForIllinois: Those weren't my words just letting you know LOL. Then why do you use them?

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1097 Joined: Jul 13, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 04:58 #216
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/elections/local/results

sledzThreads: 26 Posts: 2978 Joined: Sep 19, 06 Gender: Male	Edited by: sledz Feb 3, 10, 05:01 #217
Kaczor Duck: Anyone know how Adam is doing in the primary yet??? Its over for him, last I checked he only had around 15% of the vote Weve had the lowest voter turn out in almost 25 years It will be a lot higher come November, when they fight for Obamas old Senate seat.

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1452 Joined: Apr 28, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 05:34 #218
Not that shabby for a relative unknown. It takes time to get your name noticed like that.

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 06:41 #219
Kaczor Duck: Anyone know how Adam is doing in the primary yet??? Ah, a loser, just like his father. Must run in the family. Doesn't surprise me either - who's going to vote for someone who was endorsed by a socialist?

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1452 Joined: Apr 28, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 07:32 #220
delphiandomine: Ah, a loser, just like his father. Must run in the family. ??? Lot of animosity for someone you don't know. Have you ever run for office? Any office?

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 88 Joined: Jan 13, 10 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 08:57 #221
I just wanted to take some time and thank all of you who did support him. Adam is a great man and I was proud to work for him and pour my heart and soul into this race. I have had a total of 10 hours of sleep over the last 4 days. The fact that Adam received 110,000 votes in a primary is truly amazing for someone who never held elected office. Two things that hurt was Dan Proft, plain and simple. Because his supporters (most of them) had Adam as their second choice. Had Proft dropped out, Adam wins by a slight margin. The other issue was the Polish turnout. It didn't happen. The suburban Polish may have turned out but the Machine of Chicago brought the others to the Democratic primary. Shame on them, as their true religious values are with the Republican Party and not the Democrat Party. I hope they were happy. Instead of being lazy and sleeping on the couch, they could've helped elect their first Polish Governor in the U.S. The Polish need to realize their voting power. A half million registered. If ONLY 10% of registered Poles backed Adam, that's 50,000 votes right there. Adam would win the election. That's it, only 1 of 10 supporting him would help. It's amazing. But I did what I could and very proud. Adam is remarkable and will win office in the near future.

convexThreads: 13 Posts: 1150 Joined: Nov 25, 09 Gender: Male GOLD MEMBER	Edited by: convex Feb 3, 10, 09:16 #222
AdamForIllinois: wo things that hurt was Dan Proft, plain and simple. Because his supporters (most of them) had Adam as their second choice. Do you think that he failed to set himself apart from the more well known candidates (Perot did this well)? Regarding the Polish voting block, do you think this is now more of a myth? What did poll numbers look like for those 500,000 registered voters? What were their main issues? How many of those 500,000 were registered republicans? My guess is that the older generation are the values voters, but the younger generation are much more liberal...kind of like here in Poland. Maybe the campaign misjudged the values of Poles? What did the numbers tell you?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 4 Posts: 7872 Joined: Apr 2, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 3, 10, 10:04 #223
AdamForIllinois: Instead of being lazy and sleeping on the couch, they could've helped elect their first Polish Governor in the U.S. What about his birth certificate??? You should have told them that he is before all a Pole....but probably they only think in american terms. You know.."We are Americans and will vote for an American who we think is good for....you know....America..." Just a guess!

Jasia	Feb 3, 10, 10:38 #224
AdamForIllinois: Those weren't my words just letting you know OMG how can you deny that when they are there for everyone to see!!!!! AdamForIllinois: AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: #205 No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference. You represent all that is evil in America and are lying about what you have said. Is this what Mr Andrezejewski taught you to do? OMG I can't believe what you are saying!!!! AdamForIllinois: If you weren't a part of the 6 pages of comments in this thread, then you're a bit too late. OMG!!! Are you saying I don't have the right to express an opinion? Are you trying to censor me??? This is America and I have the right to my opinion. OMG I can't believe this!!! AdamForIllinois: . Shame on them, as their true religious values are with the Republican Party and not the Democrat Party. OMG!!! And now you are saying that somehow, because my religious values are based on Catholicism I have to be a Republican. What sort of fool are you? Did you even graduate from high school. You're just too much!!!!! Shame on you Mr AdamForIllinois, shame on you!!!

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: delphiandomine Feb 3, 10, 10:54 #225
AdamForIllinois: I just wanted to take some time and thank all of you who did support him. Adam is a great man and I was proud to work for him and pour my heart and soul into this race. I have had a total of 10 hours of sleep over the last 4 days. The fact that Adam received 110,000 votes in a primary is truly amazing for someone who never held elected office. It's hardly amazing when you consider that he bought quite a lot of those votes. Come on Tom, the campaign is over - tell us - how much was Walesa paid? AdamForIllinois: Two things that hurt was Dan Proft, plain and simple. Because his supporters (most of them) had Adam as their second choice. Had Proft dropped out, Adam wins by a slight margin. Blaming another candidate for the failure of your man to win is plainly sour grapes. Adam just wasn't good enough. AdamForIllinois: The other issue was the Polish turnout. It didn't happen. The suburban Polish may have turned out but the Machine of Chicago brought the others to the Democratic primary. Relying on Polish voters was a poor, cynical tactic. The younger, educated generation was unlikely to fall for the "I'M POLISH VOTE FOR ME" line, the older generation may have been turned off by his inability to speak to them in Polish. Let's be honest - Adam is American. There's also the fact that Republican voters are "guns n America" - if Adam was relying on being Polish to win votes, then he was always likely to lose votes too as a result - after all, when your country is in crisis, do you really want a foreigner to run things? AdamForIllinois: Shame on them, as their true religious values are with the Republican Party and not the Democrat Party. Shows how ill-educated you actually are when it comes to Poland and the Polish. In fact, you should be ashamed of yourself for mixing up religion and politics - why do you think that Poland has a not-particularly religious government these days? AdamForIllinois: Instead of being lazy and sleeping on the couch, they could've helped elect their first Polish Governor in the U.S. How is he Polish if he can't speak Polish and never visited Poland until he was 40? Or was he trying to be Polish to the Polish and American to the Americans? If so, it doesn't work and is quite a lousy political tactic - as witnessed by him coming in 5th. Also, you should be ashamed of yourself - first you court the Polish vote, then you call them "lazy" - is this yet more ethnic slurs on your behalf? AdamForIllinois: The Polish need to realize their voting power. A half million registered. If ONLY 10% of registered Poles backed Adam, that's 50,000 votes right there. Adam would win the election. That's it, only 1 of 10 supporting him would help. It's amazing. But I did what I could and very proud. Adam is remarkable and will win office in the near future. Stop blaming the Polish - they're a minority in Illinois. What about the Americans? Why don't you blame them for not electing Adam? Jasia: You represent all that is evil in America and are lying about what you have said. Is this what Mr Andrezejewski taught you to do? OMG I can't believe what you are saying!!!! And people wonder why Adam didn't get elected. If his campaign staffers are acting like this, he's got no chance. And now you are saying that somehow, because my religious values are based on Catholicism I have to be a Republican. What sort of fool are you? Did you even graduate from high school. You're just too much!!!!! I think he's just upset that there won't be a nice job waiting for him in the Governor's Mansion. Do you think he even realises that moderate Polish voters are never going to vote for someone who has abusive, idiotic campaign staffers? Anyway, just as I said he would be - Adam's just like his dad, a loser. And I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign staffers cost him the election if this chimp is anything to go by.

BabinichThreads: 3 Posts: 654 Joined: May 26, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: Babinich Feb 3, 10, 11:47 #226
convex: Do you think that he failed to set himself apart from the more well known candidates (Perot did this well)? Convex, What you need to know is that Illinois is a corrupt state. Voter turn out was low; inexplicably low for a state slowly strangling to death. What you have are the patronage armies turning out. In the meantime the bond rating of the state sinks, taxes are raised to support greater pork barrel spending & jobs disappear. What's left standing? The political class and at the head of the class are the usual suspects. The state is hemorrhaging and the voters stay home. The mark of a great country are its citizens. That said, this country is in trouble.

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 12:01 #227
convex: Do you think that he failed to set himself apart from the more well known candidates (Perot did this well)? To be fair, it seems that he was playing on a line of being a true Republican, the type who was true to the cause and offered real change. He also seemed to perform well in debates and no-one managed to fluster him - so all in all, he didn't do a bad job of setting himself apart. But. convex: Regarding the Polish voting block, do you think this is now more of a myth? Almost certainly - if you look at the mentality of many Polish immigrants abroad, many of them refused to speak Polish in the country that they moved to, and in many cases, failed to teach even their children Polish. I'm certainly not convinced that Polish people abroad all think and act alike - and I think younger, educated ones simply didn't fall for the "I'M SO POLISH THAT IT HURTS" line when he didn't actually speak Polish at all. If he was genuinely Polish and could speak the language and had visited there frequently, he might have succeeded in mobilising them as a block. My guess is that the older generation are the values voters, but the younger generation are much more liberal...kind of like here in Poland. Maybe the campaign misjudged the values of Poles? What did the numbers tell you? The mistake was to assume that they would all instantly vote for a guy with a Polish last name. It's almost certain that the liberal ones would have been turned off by the message, and Rush Limbaugh's endorsement almost certainly would've killed off any chance of them considering it. Even among Republicans, Adam made the huge mistake of trying to go as far right as possible - as far as I gather, Americans are sick of partisan politics. Then you get the campaign staffer who doesn't realise that Poland these days is ran by a centre-right party who operates on a principle of co-existence with the church rather than cooperation. Who knows, his attitude on this thread may have lost a few votes from liberal Polish-Americans - they're hardly going to vote for a candidate who is abusing anyone that isn't American. Nice try, but he just didn't have the money or the experience to run a successful campaign.

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1097 Joined: Jul 13, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 17:43 #228
AdamForIllinois: Shame on them, as their true religious values are with the Republican Party and not the Democrat Party. All sinners ... didn't vote for Andrzejewski ... :) they could've helped elect their first Polish Governor in the U.S. The Polish need to realize their voting power. Poles are not eligible to vote in the USA, only Americans of Polish descent. Seems you're mixing up a few things here.

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 18:08 #229
TheOther: Poles are not eligible to vote in the USA, only Americans of Polish descent. Seems you're mixing up a few things here. Bit like this story - http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com/2009/08/adam-andrzejewski-cant-take- hint.html

ZIMMYThreads: 4 Posts: 832 Joined: Feb 21, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 18:26 #230
AdamForIllinois: The suburban Polish may have turned out but the Machine of Chicago brought the others to the Democratic primary. That is correct; the Poles in Chicago and Cook County religiously pick up the Democratic ticket and vote accordingly. (For those who are unaware, in Illinois one has to vote either in the Republican or Democratic ticket, a couple of 3rd parties were also represented). So all those Chicagoland Poles were not eligible to cross party lines and vote for AA. "they could've helped elect their first Polish Governor in the U.S." If you recall my post #179, I linked a couple of Polish Americans who are currently governors of their own states. There have been past governors of Polish ancestry as well but most have Anglicized names or names that are not Polish. Additionally, there have been Polish-American U.S. senators, some current and of course the most famous was probably Ed Musky who ran for President about 4 decades ago.

delphiandomineThreads: 10 Posts: 1977 Joined: Nov 25, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: delphiandomine Feb 3, 10, 18:40 #231
ZIMMY: (For those who are unaware, in Illinois one has to vote either in the Republican or Democratic ticket I get this part, but do they have to decide in advance whether they vote in the Republican or Democratic race, or do they decide on the day?

ZIMMYThreads: 4 Posts: 832 Joined: Feb 21, 09 Gender: Male	Feb 3, 10, 19:04 #232
On the day a citizen walks into a polling place: States vary as is illustrated below. Illinois has a semi-open system. * Closed. People may vote in a party's primary only if they are registered members of that party. Independents cannot participate. Note that because some political parties name themselves independent, the term "non-partisan" often replaces "independent" when referring to those who are not affiliated with a political party. * Semi-closed. As in closed primaries, registered party members can vote only in their own party's primary. Semi-closed systems, however, allow unaffiliated voters to participate as well. Depending on the state, independents either make their choice of party primary privately, inside the voting booth, or publicly, by registering with any party on Election Day. * Open. A registered voter may vote in any party primary regardless of his own party affiliation. When voters do not register with a party before the primary, it is called a pick-a-party primary because the voter can select which party's primary he or she wishes to vote in on election day. Because of the open nature of this system, a practice known as raiding may occur. Raiding consists of voters of one party crossing over and voting in the primary of another party, effectively allowing a party to help choose its opposition's candidate. The theory is that opposing party members vote for the weakest candidate of the opposite party in order to give their own party the advantage in the general election. An example of this can be seen in the 1998 Vermont senatorial primary with the election of Fred Tuttle for the Republican candidate. * Semi-open. A registered voter must not publicly declare which political party's primary that they will vote in before entering the voting booth. When a voter identifies their self to the election officials, they must request a party's specific ballot. Only one ballot is cast by the voter. In many states with semi-open primaries, election officials or poll workers from their respective parties record each voter's choice of party and provide access to this information. The primary difference between a semi-open and open primary system is the use of a party-specific ballot. In a semi-open primary, a public declaration in front of the election judges is made and a party-specific ballot given to the voter to cast. Certain states that use the open-primary format may print a single ballot and the voter must choose on the ballot itself which political party's candidates they will select for a contested office. * Run-off. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to one party and the top two candidates advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation. (A run-off differs from a primary in that a second round is only needed if no candidate attains a majority in the first round.)

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 226 Joined: Apr 23, 09 Gender: Male	Edited by: bullfrog Feb 3, 10, 21:29 #233
Jasia: OMG how can you deny Jasia: OMG I can't believe Jasia: OMG!!! Jasia: OMG I can't believe this!!! Jasia: OMG!!! OMG wins by 5-0