Adam Andrzejewski Is running for Governor of Illinois !!!!

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Edited by: TheOther Feb 1, 10, 03:37 #181
They are quoting the same source, the Institute on Religion and Public Life... "According to Gateway Pundit, Illinois gubernatorial candidate Adam Andrzejewski announced at a rally today that an internal poll..."

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Edited by: scrappleton Feb 1, 10, 05:18 #182
TheOther: an interreligious, Either you or limey made the word up. If you are so unhappy return to the island, which is half on fire, the other half crawling with spiders.

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Feb 1, 10, 06:37 #183

Wow, how about the news everyone???

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/01/breaking-adam-andrzejewsk i-surges-to-within-2-points-in-latest-polling/

I know two sources have been put up above! And to 'Zimmy' you don't need to worry about Dillard. Although his father passed away, he will not gain a surge in votes because of sympathy. In fact, Dillard has been dropping quick ever since the ad with him supporting Obama in 2008 has gotten out to Illinoisans. Also, although McKenna is shown leading by only two points, a good crowd of voters know about his ethics violation a couple months ago.

A week ago, things may have been a little unsure but this past week has led to greater things. We can make this happen, so let's rally everyone out to support Adam this Tuesday! God Bless!

Tom

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Feb 1, 10, 11:26 #184

AdamForIllinois:

Also, although McKenna is shown leading by only two points, a good crowd of voters know about his ethics violation a couple months ago.

Even though he did not debate and had his chum, the guy running for Lt. Governor, campaign for him.

The other campaigns have taken a more aggressive posture on Adam Andrzejewski. That is the point of the Gateway Pundit link. This means, in all likelihood, that the internal pollsters for the other campaigns feel that AA is closing.

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Feb 1, 10, 14:55 #185

AdamForIllinois:

Wow, how about the news everyone???

Polling means nothing. There was one poll done in Poland which suggested that Civic Platform were in trouble. The next week, a new poll said that PO were actually on course to win a majority of seats in the Sejm.

Now, are you going to answer the questions about Andrzejewski's inability to speak Polish combined with an inability to tell people just how much he paid Walesa to promote him? And perhaps you would like to explain why Adam's father is a Democrat?

For Walesa to criticise America for "heading towards socialism" shows how much he was bought - you know, I'm aware you don't know the history, but Walesa was the leader of Solidarity, which is a TRADE UNION AND INHERENTLY SOCIALIST.

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 1, 10, 17:37 #186
Adam's father WAS a Democrat, who ran against ex-Governor Ryan who sits in jail. That was back in the 70's and if you know anything about America's political history you would know that ideologies shifted after Reagan came in.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,243 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Feb 1, 10, 18:02 #187
First, one cannot compare Solidarnosz as being socialist with the communism that this brave organization (union) eventually overthrew. Second, the Democrats of yesteryear were very different than the current Democrats who are very left wing. Democrat president John F. Kennedy if he was alive would not recognize his party today.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Feb 1, 10, 18:13 #188
AdamForIllinois: if you know anything about America's political history you would know that ideologies shifted after Reagan came in. The most recent shift was on the civil rights issue.

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Edited by: TheOther Feb 1, 10, 18:21 #189

ZIMMY:

First, one cannot compare Solidarnosz as being socialist with the communism...

Please explain to me: how can Andrzejewski seek and accept the support of organizations like Restore American Liberty, which claim that "Our goal is to oppose Obama's agenda consisting of socialist tyranny, the destruction of our moral civil society and the end of our personal liberty." (source: http://www.restoreamericanliberty.com/ ), and at the same time be "proud" to get the endorsement of someone like Walesa? There's something wrong here.

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Feb 1, 10, 18:40 #190

TheOther:

Please explain

Walesa was for "personal liberty" and opposed to the BigGovernment totalitarian rule that kept Poland in chains after the war. Evidently, he fears that there are too many BigGovernment programs that Obama is attempting to institute. Nothing inconsistent about that.

I don't have the time or inclination to list Obamas' many big bureaucratic programs now but will be more than happy to do so after the election.

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Feb 1, 10, 18:48 #191
Walesa was also the chairman of a union, and in the USA that's as close as you can get to be called a f*ckin' corrupt commie. How does that go together with the proclaimed goals of some supporters of Andrzejewski? So yes, there are inconsistencies in Andrzejewski campaign in my eyes. ZIMMY: I don't have the time or inclination Not necessary.

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Feb 1, 10, 19:14 #192

TheOther:

Walesa was also the chairman of a union, and in the USA that's as close as you can get to be called a f*ckin' corrupt commie. How does that go together with the proclaimed goals of some supporters of Andrzejewski? So yes, there are inconsistencies in Andrzejewski campaign in my eyes.

This is exactly my point, too. Walesa was the chairman of a union, which anyone who has read Timothy Garton Ash's excellent book on Solidarity will know had some *very* socialist policies under Walesa's rule. I mean, take one look at their demands in 1981 - when Walesa had an iron grip over Solidarity. They're about as socialist as you can get!

And how do you explain this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_UOP_nr_0015/92 ?

Tell me Tom, how do you feel Walesa's Solidarity (and their demands) is compatible with Andrzejewski's views?

(or you could just admit that Walesa was paid to say what he said and we'll leave it at that)

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 1, 10, 20:35 #193
I asked about 'how much he was paid' and was right the whole time and you were completely wrong, so I'd advise you to stop making that an issue because no one else believes your b.s.

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Edited by: delphiandomine Feb 1, 10, 20:41 #194

AdamForIllinois:

I asked about 'how much he was paid' and was right the whole time and you were completely wrong, so I'd advise you to stop making that an issue because no one else believes your b.s.

Tom, Tom, Tom...when you actually pay attention to what happens outside of your country, then you might understand that Walesa does nothing for free. If he was doing it for free, why would he be endorsing a candidate that is so dramatically against everything Walesa stood for?

I suggest you go away, read the various things that Walesa signed while leader of Solidarity, then come back and tell me how his previous form is compatible with what Adam is preaching. Then, maybe then, you might understand.

(incidentally, the majority of Polish people know and accept that Walesa will endorse anything for money - heck, a significant minority believe that Walesa was a communist agent - and there are still questions hanging over exactly what Walesa did with his file when President)

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 04:21 #195
The last candidate Walesa endorsed was RONALD REAGAN... Adam stands for Reagan principles our state badly needs.

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Edited by: sledz Feb 2, 10, 04:43 #196

AdamForIllinois:

I'd advise you to stop making that an issue because no one else believes your b.s.

I was going to warn you earlier that they would turn this into into the Limey lounge.

What boggles me is, how much time did he waste doing research to find flaws about Adam?

He just made himself and his country look even more foolish,,,,, and guess what?

Tomorrow he still cant vote.....lol

Its funny how they act like they live here and know whats going on,,,too much BBC T.V.

I vote for Adam, Hes better than the other crooked candidates!

The Obama Senate seat will go to the Republicans in the coming election just like Massachusetts did:)

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 04:53 #197
sledz: Its funny how they act like they live here and know whats going on,,,too much BBC T.V. Too much eating a socialism sandwich you after year.. decade after decade. Your opportunities are limited from the start when you're born in the UK. If you're grandfather was a plumber, probably your dad was.. and you're probably destined for something similar. Apparently it jades you after awhile.

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 05:05 #198
sledz: The Obama Senate seat will go to the Republicans in the coming election just like Massachusetts did You can't cure stupid... ;)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 05:09 #199
And now, Words of wisdom from the Australian Peanut Gallery..:)

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 05:15 #200
sledz: And now, Words of wisdom from the Australian Peanut Gallery Which is actually rocket science for Illinois Republicans... :)

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 05:17 #201
TheOther: Illinois Republicans Of which Lincoln was one.

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Edited by: sledz Feb 2, 10, 05:23 #202
TheOther: Which is actually rocket science for Illinois Republicans... :) Compared to who Blagoviech? Our soon to be convicted felon,,, Impeached Governor Ya, lets put another crooked Democratic Chicago Politician in office, thats the ticket!!!

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 06:23 #203
Amen to those voting for Adam! Polls open within 8 hours and end in about 14. Let's make this happen!

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Edited by: delphiandomine Feb 2, 10, 11:22 #204

AdamForIllinois:

The last candidate Walesa endorsed was RONALD REAGAN... Adam stands for Reagan principles our state badly needs.

Let me explain something to you.

Walesa was leader of Solidarity. Solidarity was a trade union. Solidarity demanded at one point (during Walesa's reign) the right for unemployed workers to be paid the same as employed workers. Therefore Walesa endorsed a programme of socialism!

Heck, one of Solidarity's key points was that factories should be ran and owned by the workers - with the workers getting the profit. That's not really...a core Republican value, is it?

I know you're really struggling to understand this, but Andrzejewski was endorsed by Lech Walesa, a SOCIALIST.

As for why Walesa endorsed Reagan - it's simple, Reagan saw the Soviet Union as the Evil Empire. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right?

Please try and understand, you're giving America a bad name!

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 12:15 #205
No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference.

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Edited by: convex Feb 2, 10, 12:21 #206

AdamForIllinois:

No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference.

And you're kind of a dick. Adam Andrzejewski is the best candidate for the job in Illinois. He's not much different from the other politicians that Illinois has produced over the years. He paid a socialist to come over and lend his support to motivate the Polish base. He still remains the lesser evil.

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Feb 2, 10, 14:25 #207

AdamForIllinois:

No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference.

So ethnic slurs is also what Adam Andrzejewski stands for? Fantastic - he's just got Walesa and some Hispanic dude to endorse him, but his volunteers are abusing strangers on the internet about being foreign. That makes sense! Maybe I should get in touch with Adam and advise him to...be more selective about who volunteers for him in future.

convex:

Adam Andrzejewski is the best candidate for the job in Illinois. He's not much different from the other politicians that Illinois has produced over the years. He paid a socialist to come over and lend his support to motivate the Polish base. He still remains the lesser evil.

See, you can do it rationally...why on earth can't the rest of them? :(

(I thought he wasn't a bad candidate, but being endorsed by Limbaugh isn't a good thing...)

Jasia	Feb 2, 10, 16:07 #208
AdamForIllinois: No, as others said, you are a limey and your comments do not make a difference. OMG! That's just the sort of attitude that makes Americans so ahhhrrrrr! I can't believe you would say such a thing. Who are you? You have no shame.

AdamForIllinoisThreads: 1 Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 13, 10 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 18:46 #209
To Jasia: Those weren't my words just letting you know. If you weren't a part of the 6 pages of comments in this thread, then you're a bit too late. Tom

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Feb 2, 10, 18:59 #210
delphiandomine: So ethnic slurs is also what Adam Andrzejewski stands for? Limey is not an ethnic slur.. Limey is a nationality. C'mon don't let retard Americans point basic things out to you. :(

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