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In the case of USA collapse, would American Poles escape to Canada or Poland?


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 Oct 12, 11, 19:34    #121
Hate it with good reason. Again, repeating a basels insult will not make it true. I can talk and debate but its people like you who have this arrogant and rosy vision of america who discuss.

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 Oct 12, 11, 19:47    #122
Piast Poland:
repeating a basels insult will not make it true

Yes! Stop insulting the basels!!!!!
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Edited by: Moderator  Oct 12, 11, 23:20    #123
My observation why Americans think they are the number one, it is simple if a propaganda machine repeats that you are number one then you start to think that just like Jews think they are chosen people and Palestinians are not, Germans thought that they are superior to other people around the world.
Now media repeats that Americans spread the democracy around the world so the stupid masses buy it so it is programming or brain washing and rest of the world thinks that U.S. is like banana republic fighting for profit of corporations some people think U.S. is democracy and I think it is Fascist state.

Topic reminder: In the case of USA collapse, would American Poles escape to Canada or Poland?
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 Oct 13, 11, 05:33    #124
Crow:
This is interesting question, you must admit


The tectonic plates are moving together so we will meet you all soon enough :) lol

for now I will stay put, cause gas is cheaper here. :) But certainly not the cheapest.
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Oct 13, 11, 12:11    #125
Poles came to the USA because their own country couldn't provide for them. If the USA collapsed, they'd get up and move to the next country that could give them what they wanted, but certainly not back to Poland.

My wife's family has an older woman, around 75, who just moved back to Poland after a 30+ year stint in NYC. She moved back only because she is sick and can't really take care of herself anymore. She lived in this tiny little apartment downtown somewhere, could barely speak English after all those years....yet she absolutely LOATHES the fact that she is back in Poland. her entire family is in Poland, she can speak her native language everywhere again, yet she completely hates the place and complains about it all day long.

You spend long enough in a far better country, you sure as hell won't want to move back under any circumstances.

and THAT'S back on topic.
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 Oct 13, 11, 18:42    #126
FUZZYWICKETS:
Poles came to the USA because their own country couldn't provide for them. If the USA collapsed, they'd get up and move to the next country that could give them what they wanted, but certainly not back to Poland.


I came to U.S. from communist Poland to fight for free Poland and that is why I enlisted in U.S. Army, my war never happen as the wall came down. Would I go back to Poland when U.S. will collapse absolutely not I have family here and they are more important than to than I am. What I want is the greatest country in the world what used to be U.S. to return to constitution and justice for all, as I look around the country political and capitalist system became more like communist Poland but I would call it fascist as state power and corporate power merge.
I said this many times I did not swear allegiance to government to U.S. but to constitution of U.S.
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 Oct 20, 11, 12:03    #127
bberlin62:
OK, I'll tell you what the difference is, the Soviets murdered 13 members of my family right after the WWII because they (some of them) fought for our independence. How would you feel about the Soviets if you were in my situation? How much would you like them if you lived in a country, where you were told how to feel and how to live? (btw. I'm 62 and not 49).

Are you Polish then or did you live in Poland?
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Edited by: Natasa  Oct 20, 11, 12:18    #128
He surely doesn't show calmness and wisdom that come with life experience and age.

I don't think this person is 62.

stop the earth i want to get off
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 Oct 21, 11, 04:49    #129
Natasa:
He surely doesn't show calmness and wisdom that come with life experience and age.

I don't think this person is 62.


The Soviet occupation of Germany was particularly brutal.
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 Oct 21, 11, 05:07    #130
If USA AND Canada collapse (and I mean bad) then yes I would move to Poland.
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 Oct 21, 11, 05:16    #131
AdamKadmon:
Direct slavery is just as much the pivot of bourgeois industry as machinery, credits, etc. Without slavery you have no cotton; without cotton you have, no modern industry. It is slavery that gave the colonies their value; it is the colonies that created world trade, and it is world trade that is the precondition of large-scale industry. Thus slavery is an economic category of the greatest importance. Without slavery North America, the most progressive of countries, would be transformed into a patriarchal country. Wipe North America off the map of the world, and you will have anarchy the complete decay of modern commerce and civilization. Cause slavery to disappear and you will have wiped America off the map of
nations.

Thus slavery, because it is an economic category, has always existed among the institutions of the peoples. Modern nations have been able only to disguise slavery in their own countries, but they have imposed it without disguise upon the New World.


De Touqueville wrote about the economic differences between the Southern (Slavery) States and the Northern (Free) States when he visited America in 1832-1833. He commented that the Northern Free States were much more economically vital than the Southern States. He surmised that in a Slave system there is no reason to invent more productive methods because the cost of labor is so low. So actually Slavery is an economic detriment. The American Civil War was fought over the economics of slavery and not the morality of slavery. The Northern Industrialists could not compete with the Southern Slave holders.
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 Oct 21, 11, 11:25    #132
legend wrote:

If USA AND Canada collapse (and I mean bad) then yes I would move to Poland.

if Poland is your 3rd choice, what makes USA and Canada your 1st and 2nd choice?
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 Oct 21, 11, 13:31    #133
legend:
If USA AND Canada collapse (and I mean bad) then yes I would move to Poland.


If they both collapse, which isn't going to happen, there will nothing for anyone in Poland.
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 Oct 21, 11, 20:21    #134
As I said before Germany will go back to marks and euro will go back to hell the experiment is over, welcome fourth reich.
Europe will collapse and that will bring down U.S. as banks are dependent on each other but any way euro is next and that will prolong U.S. dollar collapse maybe by 6 months or not that long.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/its-baaack-ft-deutschland-pronounces-deu tsche-marks-return-sets-eurdem-exchange-rate-195
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 Oct 22, 11, 01:01    #135
FUZZYWICKETS:
if Poland is your 3rd choice, what makes USA and Canada your 1st and 2nd choice?


Ill never move to USA. Perhaps I worded that wrong.
scottie1113:
If they both collapse, which isn't going to happen, there will nothing for anyone in Poland.


Wrong. USA is not a God. If it collapses it WILL effect Europe negatively but it wont be the end of Europe.
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 Oct 22, 11, 15:38    #136
legend:
USA is not a God.


Did I say that it was? We were talking about the collapse of both the US and Canada, which isn't going to happen. But if it did, can you even begin to comprehend the ramifications for Europe? Ah, this whole thread is pure conjecture anyway.
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 Oct 23, 11, 00:24    #137
scottie1113 wrote:

Did I say that it was?

it's a common reaction. people on this forum refuse to admit the significant role the USA plays in our world. call it pride, call it jealousy, doesn't matter.


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