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Why dont americans want a universal health care system?

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Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,267 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Aug 5, 09, 18:32 #61
mvefa: They do, that's why if you get cancer they wont want to insure you anymore! Yeh they'll look at the small print and throw you out in the street on a technacality.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Aug 5, 09, 18:37 #62
Wroclaw Boy: Yeh they'll look at the small print and throw you out in the street on a technacality. Insurance companies will go as far as to refuse payment for emergency treatment (such as a result of a car accident) if the treatment is not pre-approved :)

RakkyThreads: 10 Posts: 284 Joined: May 23, 07 ♂	Aug 5, 09, 19:03 #63
Wroclaw Boy: what if your loved ones became ill? What if THEY'RE loved ones become ill? The point here is that healthy people are paying more than their fair share. The system is abused by people who abuse themselves and their kids by being so unhealthy, and we get to pay their tab. AND we have to PAY to be healthy - gym fees, organic foods, and so on.

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Aug 5, 09, 19:22 #64

mvefa:

i mean you will not be dropped out by your insurance company if you become too expensive,

well, thats kinda like cutting off their nose to spite their face in a sense, because
why do people need insurance? for medical expenses, not for their trips to the bahamas
or anywhere else the deem necessary.

I have a daughter with a medical condition, and never , ever in my experiences
( I live in the united states ) have had any issues with my insurance.. I have had
problems with some of the billing depts, where they would try to bill me instead of
my insurance and that was basically a screw-up on the person who was doing the
coding for the hospital.
I know that life insurance companies screen for existing conditions , so they can
either make you pay out of the behind or not accept you. but thats even stupid,
because no matter what, eventually people have to have surgerys, hospital stays
it doesnt matter if you smoke or not, people have become sick with Lung CA and
never smoked a day in their life,

as for Larger people, someone had spoke before about the reasons why, and its
because the better foods are more expensive, but I have also seen people with
genetic problems, and therefore, have no choice but to get surgery/gastric bypass.

but I find it funny how some seem to think America has all the Larger people, yet
there is large people all over the world.. wonder how those sumo wrestlers became
so big, must have been that rice diet..I know theres more percentage in certain
countries, so spare the whining. :)

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Edited by: scrappleton Aug 5, 09, 19:32 #65

Rakky:

The system is abused by people who abuse themselves and their kids by being so unhealthy, and we get to pay their tab. AND we have to PAY to be healthy - gym fees, organic foods, and so on

I agree with you there has to be incentives in place not just some blank check. I haven't had health insurance for 4 years. I hit the gym and eat at least a salad a day. Don't drink nearly as much anymore. <Knock on wood> No problems. Insurance companies and Pharmaceuticals charge whatever that's the real problem. Trust we don't want universal coverage..I don't want to be llike Europe or Canada. Lol. Who wants to pay for some idiot's diabetes or liver problems when they did that to themselves?

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Aug 5, 09, 19:37 #66
scrappleton: I don't want to be llike Europe or Canada. That would be quite large! It's good you eat responsibly :)

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Aug 5, 09, 19:39 #67
Patrycja19: all the Larger people Love your political correctness. I would simply call those people obese or fat... ;-)

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Aug 5, 09, 19:43 #68
z_darius: That would be quite large! Heeelarious from our ever present "buddy", Z-Farious.

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Aug 5, 09, 19:53 #69

TheOther:

I would simply call those people obese or fat... ;-)

thats you :)

scrappleton:

Who wants to pay for some idiot's diabetes or liver problems when they did that to themselves?

Now I do agree with you here, because there are people who keep drinking, smoking
and are frequent flyers, dont want to stop and do abuse the system.

but I also see doctors pushing pills ,, thus we have a huge precription drug abuse
problem, I see no one has touched base on that one yet.

thats growing daily, we need to start taking medical liscences away and adding jail
time for those who are responsible for these addictions and deaths..

off to work :) ta ta for now.

:)