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TlumThreads: 17 Posts: 136 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Jan 10, 11, 18:08 #1
Those who live in the US or and interested in history may find this movie/documentary interesting.. http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/the_end_of_america/ Is it how the things go in the US these days?

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,955 Joined: Aug 6, 09 ♂	Jan 10, 11, 18:51 #2
Her prediction is just a matter of time but the saddest thing is that Obama is continuing the same policies of Bush and even expanding the war into a Pakistan and Yemen so her predictions and the 10 steps will be history soon. Gw where are you tell me how America is the greatest country how much freedom you have.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Jan 10, 11, 19:17 #3
Naomi Wolf always looks for a ' niche' in her writings. Unfortunately she is one of many buzzkill liberals who have a high opinion of themselves and their dubious work. No one with a logical mind takes her seriously.

milkyThreads: 10 Posts: 1,229 Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀	Jan 10, 11, 19:44 #4
ZIMMY: Naomi Wolf always looks for a ' niche' in her writings. so? dont we all

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Jan 10, 11, 20:29 #5

zimmy:
No one with a logical mind takes her seriously.

Just because the truth hurts you do not have to discredit her.
The events are different but steps are the same as history shows and it does not matter who is in white house your rights are taken away in the name of none existent treat. As I said before this is not war against the terror it is war of terror against you.
Do not be afraid stand up for your rights and do not let government take your rights away

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jan 10, 11, 21:15 #6
ZIMMY: No one with a logical mind takes her seriously yep Zimmy, only hateful morons like Marek11111 believe this crap but who cares, every village has an idiot.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Jan 10, 11, 21:41 #7
Marek11111: Do not be afraid stand up for your rights and do not let government take your rights away This man is a rationalist who speaks the truth.

spierettiThreads: 5 Posts: 177 Joined: Sep 25, 08 ♂	Jan 10, 11, 21:45 #8
"Best-selling author Naomi Wolf (The Beauty Myth) makes a chilling case that American democracy is under threat" As if...

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Jan 10, 11, 21:49 #9

Marek11111:

Obama is continuing the same policies of Bush

i think this is also the problem.

I like to watch documentaries and these days they are just full of doom and gloom about America but it's not going to disappear, you can't really say it is the end, it will still be here after I am gone and for a long time after that.
Sure America is going through a tough time, I consider it a hangover from the years of foolish lending and spending.
I think these things are cyclical, sure look at the 1930s crash, people were starving and America still came out on top.
To summaries, I still have hope.

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Jan 10, 11, 21:58 #10

SeanBM:

I like to watch documentaries and these days they are just full of doom and gloom about America but it's not going to disappear

I agree with the general premise of your hopes but it may be that America is a little more than just a name of a country. I think that over the years it managed to get the status of a symbol and, indeed, of hope. That is what is vanishing fast, not the political entity some call America, some call USA.

Obviously, the picture takes various shapes and forms, depending whether you are inside or outside it, but even then, not all those who are inside enjoy the same seating arrangements.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Jan 10, 11, 22:01 #11
z_darius: That is what is vanishing fast, not the political entity some call America, some call USA. It's not vanishing.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Jan 10, 11, 22:10 #12
PlasticPole: It's not vanishing. It kind of is though, when I read things like this: Iceland blasts US demand for lawmaker's details in WikiLeaks probe It makes America look like a world policing bully, which is opposite to z_darius: status of a symbol and, indeed, of hope

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Jan 10, 11, 22:24 #13
ZIMMY: Naomi Wolf always looks for a ' niche' in her writings. Unfortunately she is one of many buzzkill liberals who have a high opinion of themselves and their dubious work. No one with a logical mind takes her seriously. Naomi olf will never mention that the Wall Street & Homeland Security characters who are ruining the USA are all Jewish...That would be too much honesty.

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Edited by: PlasticPole Jan 10, 11, 22:36 #14

joepilsudski:

Naomi olf will never mention that the Wall Street & Homeland Security characters who are ruining the USA are all Jewish..

Some might be but there are plenty on Wall street who aren't. They just want to make money at a disadvantage to our economy. When we lose, they win. It's a powerful incentive for us to lose. It has nothing to do with race.
When you are sitting in an office being of no use to anyone piecing together CDOs to sell overseas, what do you care if everything fails. It's not like you are connected to the good. You are just connected to the money you can make.

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Jan 11, 11, 00:11 #15

SeanBM:
I think these things are cyclical, sure look at the 1930s crash, people were starving and America still came out on top.
To summaries, I still have hope.

In 1930 things were different, we exported oil and we produced wealth as goods for export today we import oil and all the goods from china.
The economy is on brink of collapse not only in America but in the world, the scariest news today was a stress test results, what was scary about it ?
The government and banks will not let investors and public see the results. What they are hiding?

http://www.worldfinance.eu/stress-tests-for-banks-will-be-kept-secret/ ?utm_source%3Drss%26utm_medium%3Drss%26utm_campaign%3Dstress-tests-for -banks-will-be-kept-secret

so excuse me if I do not see a light at the end

joepilsudski:

Naomi olf will never mention that the Wall Street & Homeland Security characters who are ruining the USA are all Jewish..

I do not see them as Jews I see them as Americans, but the problem I have is how someone who holds dual citizenship can be running homeland department can have highest security clearance how Michael Chertoff could become policy maker.
Rahm Israel Emanuel was a congressman and chief of staff in white house a person who serve in Israel army, who swore alliance to Israel
government and yet was allowed his security clearance. as I look at thinks to me not making much sense but if you assumed that Israel controls
U.S. politicks it make sense why all presidential hopefuls are going in front of aipac to swear alliance and never ending love to Israel.

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Jan 11, 11, 05:21 #16

guesswho:

yep Zimmy, only hateful morons like Marek11111 believe this crap but who cares, every village has an idiot.

Insults demean your argument, they're beneath you.

Marek11111:

In 1930 things were different, we exported oil and we produced wealth as goods for export today we import oil and all the goods from china.

Yes in the 1930's things were different. The agricultural sector in America was suffering from a worse depression than manufacturing. The depression "on the farm" started in 1920 and hadn't let up in the 1930's. Today the farm economy is booming.

In the 1930's America didn't have the social safety nets. Today we have unemployment insurance and welfare. Don't expect the economy to get much worse.

American's aren't political so don't expect us to take to the streets. We'll just wait 'em out.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Jan 11, 11, 05:40 #17
Chicago Pollock: Insults demean your argument, they're beneath you. Yes, I will insult anyone who constantly talks **** about my country, especially people who have a good life here and enjoy our hospitality. You guys do the same when it comes to Poland.

Chicago PollockThreads: 10 Posts: 638 Joined: Apr 10, 10 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 05:48 #18
guesswho: You guys do the same when it comes to Poland Yeah but...you're better than that.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Jan 11, 11, 05:56 #19
Chicago Pollock: Yeah but...you're better than that. Being better than that ain't got nothing to do with it. I'm tired of those constant insults. I watched it long enough. Poles are getting peed off about stupid Polish jokes which are harmless comparing with what he says about America and the Americans here and he repeats it all the time.

Chicago PollockThreads: 10 Posts: 638 Joined: Apr 10, 10 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 06:15 #20
guesswho: Being better than that ain't got nothing to do with it. I'm tired of those constant insults. I watched it long enough. Poles are getting peed off about stupid Polish jokes which are harmless comparing with what he says about America and the Americans here and he repeats it all the time. Okay, you're not better than that.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jan 11, 11, 06:20 #21
Chicago Pollock: Okay, you're not better than that. really smart Chicago Pollock, typical Polish smartas* joke

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,999 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 13:44 #22
marek11111 wrote: Gw where are you tell me how America is the greatest country how much freedom you have. are there countries you know of that are better with more freedom? if so, why aren't you living there?

milkyThreads: 10 Posts: 1,229 Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀	Jan 11, 11, 14:12 #23
SeanBM: it will still be here after I am gone and for a long time after that. The land will be there anyway. Marek11111: In 1930 things were different, Big time,the bucket is empty now. guesswho: I'm tired of those constant insults. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0rUtSLZTlc

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jan 11, 11, 16:55 #24
milky: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0rUtSLZTlc A total of 36,278,332 Americans—estimated at 11.9% of the total population—reported Irish ancestry in the 2008 American Community Survey.[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American great chance he's talking about his own people (really smart)

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Jan 11, 11, 17:05 #25

Chicago Pollock:
American's aren't political so don't expect us to take to the streets. We'll just wait 'em out.

you better start taking to street to save what is left from your country and protect your freedoms.

milky
Big time,the bucket is empty now.

the bucket is in red 14 trillion and banks with fed is rubbing people blind.

ok gw tell me how high the education ranks in U.S., how long people live compering to Cuba and other countries tell me about government spying on citizens and how great is that, tell me about lying to it's citizens to get into war just so few corporations can get no bit contracts, so do not take to streets and do not demand better performance from your government just stayed ignorant

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 18:14 #26
If America ends, I'll just fake a Jewish identity and move to Israel. That plan never fails.

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 18:19 #27
George8600: I'll just fake a Jewish identity ouch! thats gotta hurt as an adult !!

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jan 11, 11, 18:20 #28
isthatu2: ouch! thats gotta hurt as an adult !! The converted Palestinians aren't complaining....

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Edited by: Pinching Pete Jan 11, 11, 18:52 #29
Marek11111: you better start taking to street to save what is left from your country and protect your freedoms. Marek, when are you MOVING then? Please let us know. Since apparently our demise is imminent? Why are you still here in the US???? Fair question, right? Take a minute from your "chicken little" routine and tell us, please. P.S. : NAOMI WOLF IS TRYING TO SELL BOOKS. Get it?

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Jan 11, 11, 21:24 #30

PP:
Marek, when are you MOVING then? Please let us know. Since apparently our demise is imminent?

Why are you still here in the US???? Fair question, right? Take a minute from your "chicken little" routine and tell us, please.

Look man if it was just me I would move back to Poland but I have family and kids that are depend on me I cannot abundant them.
I would be better off in Poland but my kids and wife I do not think so I have to sacrifice and stay in this **** hole so I can provide for them it is not about me. I lived in this country and made good friends so I feel like I am at home, I serve Army in Persian gulf so do not call me chicken as I did more for this country then most you people here and if I point that you losing your rights and U.S. government is criminal institution just look around look who is getting richer and how look at fed . giving 22 trillion of u.s. tax money to banks around the world and lying about economy. Do not be fooled the collapse is near but all you chicken hawks attack and ask hay man what you doing here I know what is wrong and what is right I do not follow blindly no one and I do not lie just to fit with rest of you brain dead people.

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