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 Jul 10, 11, 04:57    #1
Hi there,

I have a hard time meeting any europeans in my area. I've been dying to meet a guy from Europe (western or eastern - doesnt really matter). Can anyone recommend a dating website where you can find your soulmate from Europe? TY :)

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Edited by: skysoulmate  Jul 10, 11, 05:26    #2
Soulmate? Where you calling my name?? lol

I looked at PolskieSerca.com before ("polish hearts" in case you don't speak Polish). I decided a while back I wasn't quite ready and my schedule is really messed up so I didn't sign up. However I liked the small flag feature they had, you click on the US or the Swedish flag and it takes you to all polish hearts in the specific country. I saw there had other nationalities than just Polish btw.

PS. Why Europeans? I say focus on good guys/gals (whatever your flavor is) and it'll widen your horizon. Just my take on it, good luck :)
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 Jul 10, 11, 06:02    #3
All you do is advertize a marriage for a green card.
You'll have thousands of them knocking at your front door in no time.
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Edited by: skysoulmate  Jul 10, 11, 06:09    #4
The website I mentioned has hundreds of people who've lived in the US (and other countries) for years, many are citizens. Also, aren't you generalizing? Yes, it happens for sure but nowadays many people do meet via online dating networks and some do it for the right reasons. Look at our own WildRover, he is moving TO Russia, to the lady he met online, not the other way around.
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 Jul 10, 11, 15:39    #5
skysoulmate:
Also, aren't you generalizing?

You're too serious.
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 Jul 10, 11, 15:48    #6
urszula:
a marriage for a green card.


yep, a truly long lasting relationship, lol
stranger  Jul 10, 11, 20:13    #7
go to europe if you want a european mate
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 Jul 11, 11, 02:31    #8
PS. Why Europeans? I say focus on good guys/gals (whatever your flavor is) and it'll widen your horizon. Just my take on it, good luck :)

I moved to US right after 'matura' (hs graduation), enrolled in a university, made lots of friends and everything but can't find the right guy to be with :( I;m 21, american guys find me very attractive but it never works out. I thought there was something wrong with me until I met that british guy (straight from europe). We started talking bout everyday life, politics, differences between US/Europe and I was just amazed by how many things we had in common! It made me think of who I am( I'm only half polish but I'm never ashamed to say that I'm from Poland) and that european guys share the same values that I do. I know that there are 300 million people in US and there's still a chance for me to find someone, but I'd really love to have that special connection with someone (even if it means to go for online dating)


go to europe if you want a european mate

Lol trust me I would if I could!! I'm thinking about the student exchange program, I'm going to start learning french next semester so I might choose either France or UK (I suck in spanish big time). Although I live in US so how meeting someone in Europe is going to help me? :( Im too young to marry lol
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 Jul 11, 11, 02:39    #9
skysoulmate:
PS. Why Europeans?

hope976:
I moved to US right after 'matura' (hs graduation), enrolled in a university, made lots of friends and everything but can't find the right guy to be with :( I;m 21, american guys find me very attractive but it never works out.

I was just talking about this today with my friend. Not too many Polish/American relationships work out after a short time(few months-few 2-3 years) they end in break up or divorce. Different mentality of the people. Unless the person comes here at a very young age like 1-5 and has been 'hanging out' strictly with Americans.
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 Jul 11, 11, 02:41    #10
hope976:
but I'm never ashamed to say that I'm from Poland

Why would you even think you have to be ashamed?
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Edited by: hope976  Jul 11, 11, 02:44    #11
I was just talking about this today with my friend. Not too many Polish/American relationships work out after a short time(few months-few 2-3 years) they end in break up or divorce. Different mentality of the people. Unless the person comes here at a very young age like 1-5 and has been 'hanging out' strictly with Americans.

It makes me wonder if Im ever gon be able to commit to a long term relationship with an american guy. It's kinda depressing though, I've invested so much time and energy into a good education here but it looks like I'll be moving back to Europe after graduation (its not all about finding the right guy, I've adjusted to the everyday life here just fine but I miss Europe terribly :( ).

Why would you even think you have to be ashamed?

Because I'm only 50% polish and proud to say I'm polish whereas your 'rodacy' in US are ashamed to speak polish in a public place. thats why
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 Jul 11, 11, 02:53    #12
hope976:
Because I'm only 50% polish and proud to say I'm polish whereas your 'rodacy' in US are ashamed to speak polish in a public place.

What's your other half? I'm not ashamed to speak Polish, it's not that Americans dislike Polish it's that many don't like hearing (any) foreign language because they're in their own country and can't understand it, making them feel out of place. I noticed that many times, someone just gets mad or looks from side to side looking confused like he doesn't know how he should respond to it,should he be ok with hearing it or not.
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Edited by: skysoulmate  Jul 11, 11, 03:04    #13
hope976:

It makes me wonder if Im ever gon be able to commit to a long term relationship with an american guy. It's kinda depressing though, I've invested so much time and energy into a good education here but it looks like I'll be moving back to Europe after graduation (its not all about finding the right guy, I've adjusted to the everyday life here just fine but I miss Europe terribly :( ).


Well, you're still very young and yes, you will find that connection. You know, both men and women tend to miss home when we feel alone, a very normal feeling. You're young, see all those couples around you and crave someone you could call "your own", I get it.

...and by the way, there are many Americans with a European way of thinking, whatever that might be. I say focus on graduating and maybe look for a job for now and the rest will follow (not sure what your visa/residency status is). Also, don't know your personality but don't be afraid to be a little more "pro-active". Strike up a conversation with a guy, you know some of us might be somewhat shy. Although I'm divorced now I did have some wonderful years with my ex. The fact is had she not asked me out (and later to marry her :) we'd have never had those great years.

If you just want to hang out look into itsjustlunch.com, not sure about the spelling; a friend of mine says he met his fiancé that way, very low key which takes the pressure off of him and her.

PennBoy:
it's not that Americans dislike Polish it's that many don't like hearing (any) foreign language because they're in their own country and can't understand it,



Huh? I've lived in several States, have many friends who moved to the US from different countries and we all agree on one thing, Americans LOVE people who speak other languages, they're enamored with the aspect of dating someone mysterious, someone from a different country. Some might be fed up with Spanish speaking people but that's just because they seem to be everywhere. Otherwise though I thing the exact opposite of what you're describing is true.
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 Jul 11, 11, 03:05    #14
hope976:
I am( I'm only half polish


what's the other half?
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 Jul 11, 11, 03:09    #15
PennBoy
What's your other half? I'm not ashamed to speak Polish, it's not that Americans dislike Polish it's that many don't like hearing (any) foreign language

Im half french. I dont agree with the 'Americans dont like hearing any foregin language' part. If you live in CA or FL you hear more spanish than english. I have friends who are super comfortable with me speaking polish (on the phone) or with my polish gf when we're all hanging out. True, it may be uncomfortable if you don't speak english at all (how can you communicate with your american friends then?). However, i said that polish pple tend to refuse to speak polish in a public place regardless of the presence of americans. Here's the situation:

A couple of months ago I drove all the way to a polish store because i was craving paczkis :) While I was looking at the delicious paczkis with a custard filling I noticed my mom's friends in the store so I said "Dzien dobry" to her and started speaking polish and hmm.. she was responding in english. At first I was kinda surprised, I looked around to see if there were any americans in the store - nope, it was only me, her and a polish cashier. It was kinda hard to understand her heavy accent but I switched to english coz that seemed more comfortable for her! Oh btw she always speaks polish with my mom and her polish gfs. I thought to myself 'Dziwna baba'- and walked away. lmao
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 Jul 11, 11, 03:16    #16
hope976:
Im half french.


hope976:
I moved to US right after 'matura' (hs graduation), enrolled in a university, made lots of friends and everything but can't find the right guy to be with :( I;m 21, american guys find me very attractive but it never works out.


Amazing. If I was you, I'd try to publish your story, it sounds like a bestseller to me.
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 Jul 11, 11, 03:20    #17
hope976:
couple of months ago I drove all the way to a polish store because i was craving paczkis :) While I was looking at the delicious paczkis with a custard filling I noticed my mom's friends in the store so I said "Dzien dobry" to her and started speaking polish and hmm.. she was responding in english.



I got news for you honey-pie, they're not ashamed of speaking Polish, they're simply being polite. I was born in Poland but raised in Sweden so I tend to speak Swedish when around Scandinavian friends and family. However in all the years I've lived here in the States I noticed that we might say a few sentences in Swedish but we always end up switching to English when there are people around, we do it subconsciously...
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Edited by: hope976  Jul 11, 11, 03:29    #18
skysoulmate
I got news for you honey-pie, they're not ashamed of speaking Polish, they're simply being polite.

Whatever. We could argue about this for hours. I just want to say that it wasn't until I moved to US when I met people having issues with speaking different languages. That's why I prefer Europe; I feel like life in Europe is so much easier. I was born to a bilingual couple; my dad have never had any issues with speaking his language around polish people. Noone has ever felt offended either. You would think that America is a melting-pot and people here are so open minded but well, im sure that among those 300 million people you can find pople like
skysoulmate

who would think its more polite to speak english with a polish person and other people who speak whatever language they feel like speaking and don't care what others think about it :)

Btw. Hoes does speaking english relates to being polite? there were only polish people around. You still think it was more polite to respond in english? Clearly our values are wayyyy different.
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Edited by: guesswho  Jul 11, 11, 03:35    #19
hope976:
im sure that among those 300 million people you can find pople like
skysoulmate

who would think its more polite to speak english with a polish person


around non Poles it is for sure and this is most likely what he meant by what he said.
Btw. it's the same in any country allover the world.
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Edited by: hope976  Jul 11, 11, 03:39    #20
The whole point of me telling the story was to show that even when there NO AMERICANS around you can find people who won't say a word in polish to you. I have also accentuated the fact that she had a HEAVY accent to give you a hint that she wasn't born/raised in US but came here as an adult. Go ahead, find a million excuses for her, I don't really care, because you're not offending me or my story - you have a right to think whatever you want. Some people don't value languages, some people think that it's wrong to speak a different language in US because Americans don't like it and its ok to have your own opinion because we're all different and think in a different way. I'm just surprised to post on a polish forum and find so many negative opinions about speaking polish in public. Sometimes I wish I was spanish - they have no issues with speaking their native language whatsoever.
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Edited by: skysoulmate  Jul 11, 11, 03:46    #21
guesswho:
around non Poles it is for sure and this is most likely what he meant by what he said.
Btw. it's the same in any country allover the world.


That's exactly what I meant. When I'm in Shanghai and go to a bar people often switch to English when I sit nearby, same in Sweden, if they can tell you aren't a local they often switch to English.

Hope - I'm a half-full type of guy and don't assume people are ignorant just because they switch to a different language. Maybe the people you saw didn't know there were only Poles in the store? I don't know, wasn't there however from my experience people tend to switch to English no matter where they're from when they think there are Americans nearby. No big issue to me, I've seen similar behavior in North America, Asia and Europe. People like to blend in.

I think we are digressing though, if this is why you miss Europe then I doubt your views will change.
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Edited by: PennBoy  Jul 11, 11, 03:49    #22
skysoulmate:
Huh? I've lived in several States, have many friends who moved to the US from different countries and we all agree on one thing, Americans LOVE people who speak other languages

Maybe I've lived in the wrong part of the States.
hope976:
Im half french.

half my family lives in Paris, i don't know which parts never went to visit.
hope976:
While I was looking at the delicious paczkis with a custard filling I noticed my mom's friends in the store so I said "Dzien dobry" to her and started speaking polish and hmm.. she was responding in english. At first I was kinda surprised, I looked around to see if there were any americans in the store - nope, it was only me, her and a polish cashier. It was kinda hard to understand her heavy accent but I switched to english coz that seemed more comfortable for her! Oh btw she always speaks polish with my mom and her polish gfs. I thought to myself 'Dziwna baba'- and walked away. lmao

Yea weird one. Well in Cali or Florida it's different since Hispanics are the majority. where was this Polish store Greenpoint? the Hispanic or Arab store owners there speak Polish.
Skysoulmate I think you're right, it's disrespectful speaking a language others don't understand they don't know if you're talking about them. Unless the person gets red and looks ashamed.
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Edited by: guesswho  Jul 11, 11, 03:54    #23
hope976:
The whole point of me telling the story was to show that even when there NO AMERICANS around you can find people who won't say a word in polish to you.


and I only explained to you what he most likely meant by saying what he did.

hope976:
I have also accentuated the fact that she had a HEAVY accent to give you a hint that she wasn't born/raised in US but came here as an adult. Go ahead, find a million excuses for her, I don't really care,


I'm not trying to find any excuses for her. It's perfectly OK to speak any language you choose. The only thing I'll add is that if you live here, you should be aware what language we speak and if this is something you don't like, you shouldn't be here then. When I was in Poland (Mikolajki in particular), an older guy told me that I'm in Poland and I have to speak Polish even though Mikolajki basically lives of tourism and it is a smart thing to speak foreign languages, especially in his case as he's a restaurant owner. On top of it, Polish is not exactly an international language and expecting tourists to learn it is a bad joke. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with learning Polish, it's good to learn languages in general but since it's not one of the world languages, no one can really expect foreigners to learn it. The only exception is, when one lives permanently in Poland, that's it.
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Edited by: Marynka11  Jul 11, 11, 03:55    #24
skysoulmate:
When I'm in Shanghai and go to a bar people often switch to English when I sit nearby, same in Sweden, if they can tell you aren't a local they often switch to English.

For many it's the only opportunity to use and practice the English language skills. I always warn the exchange students that they have to insist on speaking the target language otherwise it's just going to be English and they will not learn anything.
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 Jul 11, 11, 03:59    #25
All this conversation made me giggle. Idk.. you people may have issue and stress out about speaking other languages but I don't. I never brag about languages: I speak a couple of languages fluently with a native accent (I used to live in a diff parts of world and speak diff languages when I was growing up). You may be obsessed with what others think about you (looking at my mom and my mom's family I find it very polish) but here's good news: I dont! :) When I hear people speakiing polish, Im going to speak polish, when someone says something in french to me I'm going to respond in french no matter who's around us. If people found this behavior weird, I'd prolly have no friends watsoever. I'm outta this thread (i started it for some other reason) but you can stay hear and argue when it's polite to speak polish and whatnot. Good luck!
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 Jul 11, 11, 04:01    #26
hope976:
Hoes does speaking english relates to being polite? there were only polish people around.

If there were only Polish people she is weird, probably thinks of herself as a wielka Amerykanka. But around people who don't understand Polish it is disrespectful. I dated an American girl and we only hung out with other Polish ppl even the ones who were born here spoke Polish. She felt so out of place just standing there until like a year later a Polish friend of mine started dating an American girl also, finally she had someone to talk to.
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Edited by: skysoulmate  Jul 11, 11, 04:03    #27
hope976:
The whole point of me telling the story was to show that even when there NO AMERICANS around you can find people who won't say a word in polish to you. I have also accentuated the fact that she had a HEAVY accent to give you a hint that she wasn't born/raised in US but came here as an adult. Go ahead, find a million excuses for her, I don't really care, because you're not offending me or my story - you have a right to think whatever you want. Some people don't value languages, some people think that it's wrong to speak a different language in US because Americans don't like it and its ok to have your own opinion because we're all different and think in a different way. I'm just surprised to post on a polish forum and find so many negative opinions about speaking polish in public. Sometimes I wish I was spanish - they have no issues with speaking their native language whatsoever.


Well, you asked for advice, I gave you numerous suggestions yet you chose to cherry pick on one comment of mine only, where I basically said that maybe you need to give the people there the benefit of the doubt and instead you slam me with your "whatever" comment. You obviously have very strong opinions on this subject which I find somewhat perplexing, after 17 years here I've never felt that I must speak a certain language when I'm around my friends, we sort of do what feels natural. ...but now based on your post it means that Americans simply don't want me to speak Swedish, or Polish and/or my friends and I are ashamed of speaking those languages. Well, nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm butting out of this thread, thought it was about finding someone to share time with and not so much picking on the US, well some 90% of this forum already perpetuates that.

Wish you the best, and to clarify I mean it without any sarcasm or ill-will whatsoever.


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Marynka11:
For many it's the only opportunity to use and practice the English language skills. I always warn the exchange students that they have to insist on speaking the target language otherwise it's just going to be English and they will not learn anything.


It's very true. Although often it's also so the "outsider" doesn't feel left out. No idea why this thread became a language thread??
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 Jul 11, 11, 04:07    #28
guesswho:
but since it's not one of the world languages, no one can really expect foreigners to learn it. The only exception is, when one lives permanently in Poland, that's it.

I'll have to disagree here. Doesn't matter if it's not a world language or someone isn't permanently living in Poland. No Pole should be forced to learn English, maybe they don't want to. If someone has a problem with that don't come to Poland, otherwise take a few weeks and learn the basics people will appreciate it. Why do you think French refuse to speak English?
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Edited by: guesswho  Jul 11, 11, 04:10    #29
hope976:
All this conversation made me giggle.


then you'll continue giggling for the rest of your days. Are you always giggling when you don't understand what people are saying? You said earlier that our guys like your looks, well maybe there's something about your giggling rather than your looks (think about it).

hope976:
you people may have issue and stress out about speaking other languages but I don't.


you wish you knew as many foreign languages as I do. It looks like common sense is not exactly your strength. Jeez, I can't believe, you can't find any guy here, you seem like an easy catch with all your giggling and common sense.

hope976:
I never brag

I wouldn't either if I was you.

hope976:
You may be obsessed


we are not, we haven't started this crazy thread.

hope976:
I'm going to respond in french no matter who's around us


little nasty here ;-)

hope976:
I'd prolly have no friends watsoever


I feel sorry for you :-(

PennBoy:
I'll have to disagree here


I'm glad you do PB :-)

PennBoy:
No Pole should be forced to learn English, maybe they don't want to.


yep, tourism is unimportant in Poland.

PennBoy:
Why do you think French refuse to speak English?


The French are refusing to speak other languages simply because they're very nationalistic, that's all PB.
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Edited by: hope976  Jul 11, 11, 04:17    #30
guesswho

hope976:
I'm going to respond in french no matter who's around us


little nasty here ;-)

Is that how you understand sharing your thoughts on an internet forum? I might be only 21 and you might be 40 and very smart but it doesn't give you the right to offend anyone.
you wish you knew as many foreign languages as I do. It looks like common sense is not exactly your strength. Jeez, I can't believe, you can't find any guy here, you seem like an easy catch with all your giggling and common sense.

You don't even speak polish (if something changed then update your profile please) so what is it to brag about? Obviously you feel polish if you post so many threads on this forum, so maybe try to work on improving your polish skills unless you feel that polish is not a world language so there's no need for you to know it (im just paraphrasing one of your earlier posts)

guesswho:
On top of it, Polish is not exactly an international language and expecting tourists to learn it is a bad joke. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with learning Polish, it's good to learn languages in general but since it's not one of the world languages, no one can really expect foreigners to learn it.

Oh there's something else:

guesswho: The French are refusing to speak other languages simply because they're very nationalistic, that's all PB.

Can you please cite the sources you're using when stating things like that? I'm very curious where it's coming from...


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