Grace Pianka case - Injustice to Polish Citizen

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Jul 21, 10, 21:15 #1

I am trying to make the case about Grace Pianka known. Beneath is the link to the article.

A woman whose first murder trial ended up in a hung jury was convicted Monday of killing her husband by the second jury to hear her case.

Grace Pianka, 51, was found guilty of second-degree murder in Maricopa County Superior Court. She faces up to 22 years in prison when she is sentenced May 29.

Pianka was charged in the April 15, 2006, shooting death of her husband, Adam Kostewicz.

www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2009/03/23/20090323pian ka0323-ON.html

Many people were disturbed after watching it on dateline. To read about their comments go on this link

dateline.newsvine.com/_news/2009/08/24/3187140-in-the-bedroom

henrysonThreads: - Posts: 36 Joined: Oct 28, 10 ♂	Oct 28, 10, 02:38 #2
I am surprised not to see more outrage to this obvious injustice. Does anyone know what happened to Grace's appeal? Is the a website where people can voice their support?

Basildaly

Dec 5, 10, 13:02 #3

Hi, I too have seen the program on Grace .. actually twice. It would appear to me that Grace was well and truly found guilty before she entered the court room! Where on earth is this other woman / thief? Surely in this day an age a rush to judgement should not still occur! I personally believe that Grace did not harm her husband ... however, lets say she did ... why has the other woman never come forward to back up her "story" ...
Unfortunately for Grace she has been left holding the baby ... I dont understand why that finger nail was not collected and tested (found in the bedroom) ... I really dont understand why her "story" was taken at face value and Graces wasnt??

People react to stress in different ways depending on their background, culture, religious ideals etc ...a particular reaction / or perceived lack of reaction does not mean someone is a murderer!

Imagine if you were Grace ... how dreadful to be deemed a murderer whilst the supposed girlfriend strips you of your husband and all your assets as well .. then doesnt show up to answer for her behaviour! God willing there will be lawyer or justice team out there somewhere ready to do battle on Graces behalf.

Catherine Australia.

jboy	Dec 26, 10, 15:41 #4
as i live and breath i wonder what people think some times, this women was found guilty before she ever went to court! i really think the other women had more to gain then grace, with grace gone who is there repersent her and her property... joe from charlotte

the truth	Jan 9, 11, 07:13 #5
They need to find Virginia McIntyre and use military ways for her to tell the truth. There are ways to do this. She knew what she was doing. No matter who did it, Virginia should've got nothing.

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jan 9, 11, 08:48 #6
Who would have known Polish husband abuse would have gone that far? Woman: I need credit card for new model clothes and girlfriend hangout. Man: No, I have bills, and then need to go drink with pals. BAM wrong answer.....

fgt4jus

Feb 24, 11, 20:28 #7

I was extremely disturbed when i saw this on ID. Grace clearly did not commit this crime. There was absolutely no physical evidence against her. That detective Hansen should not be a detective. He did not do his job well at all. No fingerprints, no gun powder test on Virginia's hands, her fingernail, the money oh yeah and where is she? The list goes on. Virginia definately killed Adam. She may have fooled that stupid detective but she didn't fool me. What is wrong with the justice system? Aren't you supposed to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt? There is plenty of doubt in this case. How can those jurors sleep at night? They sent an innocent woman to prison. I wish i could do something about it. Is there anything i can do?

oldfriends

Apr 17, 11, 17:14 #8

Jen and her husband are definitely involved in this - having known both Grace and Adam -- even
though they were both bright people -I feel they could have easily been taken in by this Jennifer McIntyre
and her husband. I think they play them like a fiddle as well as the rookie detective. Checking both
women for blood splatter and gun powder residue is basic police work 101. Yet, neither was done.
I had contact also with Jen McIntyre when I tried to reach Adam by phone one day. I hadn't talked to
him in a few months and called him - I got a call from Jennifer a few days later (who happened to have
his cell phone) who then told me that he was dead. She is a little strange - the way she comes across
and the way she spoke. She told me a few things that I couldn't quite believe either. It does seem
though that Adam was seeing her, for what reason I still can't understand, and that was very
uncharacteristic of him. The fact that she disappears after telling everyone, myself included, he was
the love of her life - she also told me that they were to be married in December of that year - even though neither had told their spouses or even started divorice proceedings. And then to have her named
executive of his life ins policy - a bit strange. Dont know if anyone will ever know what exactly happened.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Apr 17, 11, 17:52 #9
At first I thought it was yet another story excusing a woman from killing her husband After reading it however, it seems that an injustice may have been done to Mrs Pianka. It also looks like shoddy detective work. I just wonder about the specific facts on the aspirin overdose and the time tables involved.

aaaa	Apr 23, 11, 04:52 #10
You have not clue about the facts of this case. What you saw on TV only showed maybe half of the story. Pianka's appeal was turned down in January. She is where she belongs.

aaaa	Apr 23, 11, 05:03 #11
The whole Jen McIntyre thing was a stupid conspiracy theory advanced by the defense. The jury heard it and rejected. About the fingernail--when the image was zoomed in on, it was clear it was piece of paper, not a fingernail. Jen never got any money from Adam or Grace. The money went to Adam's parents.

aaaa	Apr 23, 11, 05:11 #12
Lachetta: Many people were disturbed after watching it on dateline. To read about their comments go on this link Again: the Dateline did not tell you the complete story. It showed only what was good for TV. Pianka was guilty and got what she deserved. If you believe that Jen did it, then you must believe in UFOs.

aaaa

Apr 23, 11, 05:21 #13

fgt4jus:

I was extremely disturbed when i saw this on ID. Grace clearly did not commit this crime. There was absolutely no physical evidence against her. That detective Hansen should not be a detective. He did not do his job well at all. No fingerprints, no gun powder test on Virginia's hands, her fingernail, the money oh yeah and where is she? The list goes on. Virginia definately killed Adam. She may have fooled that stupid detective but she didn't fool me. What is wrong with the justice system? Aren't you supposed to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt? There is plenty of doubt in this case. How can those jurors sleep at night? They sent an innocent woman to prison. I wish i could do something about it. Is there anything i can do?

Grace had the motive, opportunity, and means. At best, Jen had the motive (if you believe she wanted to get Adam's money). Pianka made admissions to her social worker at the hospital that were even more damaging to her than her statement to the police. The jury did not hear those statements because the defense got that testimony suppressed. I'll tell you what you can do--go crawl under a rock.

JeffMarzano

Apr 24, 11, 04:39 #14

I agree Grace is innocent.

This was a great travesty of justice.

The criminal justice system in America is not perfect by any means.

These lawyers get carried away sometimes. For them 'winning' sometimes means sending an innocent person into jail. It also sometimes means setting a guilty person free so they can go and kill someone else.

Common sense gets thrown to the winds in some of these cases.

I don't know what kind of stupid idiots they had on the jury either.

This massive legal system in America is out of control.

Jeff Marzano

Ggggggggg	Apr 24, 11, 04:47 #15
You seem to have a pretty strong opinion. If you're so convinced Pianka is actually guilty, why not share the facts that you know?

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Apr 24, 11, 05:40 #16
Lachetta: Grace Pianka case - Injustice to Polish Citizen I only read parts of it but I'd like to ask you a question. Did she kill her husband? Of what I read, I come to the conclusion that she did and if she did, what is this whole fuss about?

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Apr 24, 11, 16:03 #17

guesswho:

I only read parts of it but I'd like to ask you a question. Did she kill her husband? Of what I read, I come to the conclusion that she did and if she did, what is this whole fuss about?

You didn't read the whole story so your conclusion is the same as prejudgement. You used exactly the same mechanism that people used for centuries to justify persecution of your kind - the dark skin means a person is not fully human.

If you read the whole story and if you watched the Dateline documentary you might have reached a different conclusion. But then... you don't need facts to issue an opinion.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Apr 24, 11, 16:30 #18
z_darius: you don't need facts to issue an opinion. and that's why I ask you guys a clear question, did I? One more time, especially for you, guesswho: Did she kill her husband? Can you tell for sure that she didn't? I'm asking questions to get information from you as I didn't feel like reading the whole thing.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Apr 24, 11, 18:22 #19
guesswho: Can you tell for sure that she didn't? I don't. But I can say she did either. There is enough of reasonable doubt. guesswho: I'm asking questions to get information from you as I didn't feel like reading the whole thing. If you don't feel like reading then you won't know. Posts here have t be read too.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Apr 24, 11, 18:26 #20
z_darius: If you don't feel like reading then you won't know. you even said that you don't know it and you read it, right? so don't pee at my door :-)

justiceforgrace

Apr 28, 11, 00:10 #21

I believeit was injustice for Grace.I don't think she killed her husband I think the mistress killed him and set it up to look like Grace killed him.I bet if a good investigator looked back on the mistress's and her husband's past, you would find a lot more disturbing incidents.They are sitting pretty now..somehow managed to get the estate of Adam.Good grief! Grace had a damn poor lawyer if you asked me.That witch came and picked Adam up at his house right in front of Grace..how brazen! Then when he didn't show up at the hotel ,she went to his house, said she looked in the window and saw Adam,but all the blinds were closed.She couldn't have seen Adam.She also knew where the gun was located and described what she thought happened..Adam came out of the bathroom and Grace shot him..lol.Maybe the mistress was waiting foir him. as he came out of the bathroom!If I had been on that jury ,noway I would have from Grace Guilty!

Adrienne	May 22, 11, 17:36 #22
Please go to my blog, Grace Pianka...Fair trial?...and post your comments. I have been in snail-mail contact with this woman while she has been in prison. I have inquired at the Innocence Project and received a response. They cannot consider her case until all her appeals have run out. I, too, am outraged by her trial.

Lamp	Jul 13, 11, 05:45 #23
Adrienne Is there an update on Jen McIntyre's whereabouts? What a grievous gaffe. The court of appeals 14 page decision does not emphasize the importance of her being missing: mcdui.com/storage/2011-case-uploads/State%20v%20Pianka.pdf

Blalla	Dec 9, 11, 03:56 #24
Are you all blind? This is more then woman guilty? She want to have the life insurance over $700,000.00!! Very bad actress this Grace!

BreitbartFan

Mar 19, 12, 19:14 #25

How is this considered an injustice when Adam was killed? Adam was born in Poland, migrated to Michigan, then finally to Arizona. This is a human injustice as his life was taken from him. The evidence points to Grace, the jealousy points to Grace, the murder occurred in their house, with Grace fleeing the scene, with Grace trying to off herself the day he died. She didn't call the police, she left Boris, their dog, to run free in the desert, she abandoned the house. While Jen may not have stuck around for the trial, she gained nothing but bad press for her part in the relationship. Jen made no money, made no fame, her existence only severed as a catalyst to make the last days of his life happy and bring death upon him in the form of Grace being a jealous murderous unforgiving human.

May Adam's soul rest in peace and may Grace find forgiveness for her sins.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Mar 19, 12, 23:41 #26
Hey Breitbart fan, we've lost a couple of other good people lately. Gina Cobb died a couple of months ago as did Randall Shake. R.I.P.

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