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How many Polish citizens left Chicagoland in the past three years?


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Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂ 		 Mar 12, 11, 16:00    #1
The Polish-born population in Chicago has plummetted in the past few years. I've heard numbers ranging from 50,000 to 150,000. Does anyone have a source for numbers? Chicagoland remains home to thousands of residents born in Poland but the numbers are certainly down.
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Joined: Dec 7, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Mar 12, 11, 16:10    #2
regionpolski:
How many Polish citizens left Chicagoland in the past three years?

Most just moved to the suburbs, not back to Poland.
I just found data from 2005 that there are 800 thousand people of Polish descent in metro Chicago area. " W Chicago mieszka około 800.000 osób polskiego pochodzenia. Według amerykańskich danych oficjalnych, w 2005 r. liczba Polaków w Chicago i okolicach, którym wydano zezwolenie na stały pobyt, spadła o 5,3 proc. w porównaniu do 2004 r. i wyniosła 5,6 tys.
Lyzko  Mar 12, 11, 16:12    #3
How the mighty of the Windy City have fallen! Once the Poles dominated the old Meat Packing District (made famous in Upton Sinclair's novel "The Jungle"!), her most famous muckracker Mr. Art Royko etc... Poles were to Chicago what the Italians were to New York and the Irish to Bean Town (Boston).
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Lyzko:
How the mighty of the Windy City have fallen! Once the Poles dominated the old Meat Packing District (made famous in Upton Sinclair's novel "The Jungle"!), her most famous muckracker Mr. Art Royko etc... Poles were to Chicago what the Italians were to New York and the Irish to Bean Town (Boston).

Mexicans outnumber Poles now, there's over a million in the metro area.
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PennBoy:
Mexicans outnumber Poles now, there's over a million in the metro area.

Real Poles choose to live in Poland.
Lyzko  Mar 12, 11, 17:06    #6
I ruefully repeat, PennBoy, "How the mighty have fallen!"-:))
Lyzko  Mar 12, 11, 17:17    #7
Are migrant workers in Poland any less "real" than so-called "native" Poles? I detect here a double standard. If the immigrants in question were, say, Swedes, Germans or Brits, would the resentment be as significant??
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Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂ 		 Mar 12, 11, 17:45    #8
I'm including the suburbs in my question, hence use of the term Chicagoland in the thread. My interest is in the number of Poles that returned to Poland.
Lyzko  Mar 12, 11, 17:58    #9
Your research may also take you to a similar phenomenon happening for a while in my area of Greenpoint, Brooklyn. As Poland has begun to do better economically, more and more younger Poles are pulling up stakes and moving back to the Motherland-:)
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Harry:
Real Poles choose to live in Poland.

Untrue. Real Poles will be Poles wherever they are.
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f stop:
Untrue. Real Poles will be Poles wherever they are.

f stop you're wasting your time trying to convince a nimwit who's obviously very jealous of not living in this glorious country.
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I understand what he means, and I don't want to get personal here, but passport, lineage, living in Poland might technically make you Polish, but (and this is going to sound corny) if you talking about being a "real" Pole, it's got to be what's in your heart.
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Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂ 		Edited by: 1jola  Mar 12, 11, 18:49    #13
Noble words, fstop. Do you regret not passing that on to your son?
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1jola:
Do you regret not passing that on to your son?

Not at all. I'd like my legacy to be that he becomes a "real" citizen of the world.
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regionpolski:
How many Polish citizens left Chicagoland in the past three years?


>>> http://www.polishconsulatechicago.org/ <<< ask there


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