Do many Polish people in America hate Americans?

pgtxThreads: 48 Posts: 6,269 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♀ [Moderator]	Nov 13, 09, 04:13 #211
RevokeNice: Only 10-15% of Americans own a passport. Thats a fact. true... not many Americans i know own one...

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,459 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 04:17 #212
pgtx: true... not many Americans i know own one... It will be interesting to see if there is a surge in passport applications once the teleprompter in chief starts making mince meat out of the country. :)

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,181 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Nov 13, 09, 05:23 #213
RevokeNice: It will be interesting to see if there is a surge in passport applications once the teleprompter in chief starts making mince meat out of the country. :) Most likely not. Where would we go?

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Nov 13, 09, 05:43 #214

RevokeNice:

It will be interesting to see if there is a surge in passport applications once the teleprompter in chief starts making mince meat out of the country. :)

He will leave before we will. He and his cronies are the endpoint of an ideology that has led to failure, The Chemo for the cancer is mixed and treatment is near. They have tried guilt, threats, and even pitting us against each other. The people know what they know and all the govt is doing is destroying its own credibility.

IMO.

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Edited by: sledz Nov 13, 09, 06:28 #215

pgtx:

Americans travel a lot... but within the states...
they just don't do international traveling a lot...

Its true, We dont need to leave the US we have it all right here:)

RevokeNice:

Only 10-15% of Americans own a passport. Thats a fact.

More google facts???
Why should we leave, to get treated like $_hit when we travel to Europe?

My passport was stamped perfectly equally untill some Jagoff Immigration officer at the Dublin airport looked at me and went to the last page, then stamped it and tossed it at me.

Perhaps he didnt like my last name..lol

I could care less as it didnt phase me, it just reaffirmed everything my cousin told me to expect at the airport

pgtxThreads: 48 Posts: 6,269 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♀ [Moderator]	Nov 13, 09, 06:34 #216
sledz: We dont need to leave the US we have it all right here:) that's exactly how Americans think...

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 06:41 #217
pgtx: that's exactly how Americans think... If Poland is so great why didnt you stay there when you went back?? It surely must be better than hot sweaty redneck texas..nie?

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Nov 13, 09, 06:42 #218

Our middle class is under constant threat by loss of jobs and an unfair tax burden. The only part of society that has increasing income are the rich. Thanks to the last eight years of government, their tax burden has declined.

Jobs are constantly being eliminated by consolidation of companies. People without jobs cannot buy goods, so I think you will see a very significant decline Americans' consumption of consummer goods.

Congressmen and women are a joke. They have been bought and paid for by corporations. For example, Liberman, the "independent", says he won't vote for health bill with a public insurance option. How independent can he be when he has accepted in excess of $3,000,000 from the health and insurance sectors over the course of his career. How does a campaign contribution differ from a bribe?

pgtxThreads: 48 Posts: 6,269 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♀ [Moderator]	Nov 13, 09, 06:43 #219
sledz: If Poland is so great why didnt you stay there when you went back?? It surely must be better than hot sweaty redneck texas..nie? zmień płyte, śledzik... to zaczyna być nudne... why Americans can't take any critic...? is that also too hard...?

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Nov 13, 09, 06:56 #220

pgtx:

why Americans can't take any critic...?

A vast majority of Americans think the US is best country in the world and in many ways is. Hard working people can become very wealthy, although most don't.

There are pardoxes. The US has excellent health care, if you have money. About 1/3 of its citizens don't have health insurance. Lose your job, your health insurance goes with it. Overall, the US ranks 37th in world. It is the only industrialized country without universal coverage.

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Edited by: krysia Nov 13, 09, 07:15 #221

sledz:

We dont need to leave the US we have it all right here:)

There is more to traveling abroad. It is very expensive to travel, not every country is tourist-happy. Americans don't have as much vacation time to travel as Europeans do.
We are lucky to get 2 weeks of vacation after 10 years of working and in that short period of time we have to work around the house or go for a short trip to visit family. Retired Americans after age 65 finally have a chance to travel, if health allows them. Even after you have a baby, you have to be back to work in 3 weeks. In Poland you can get a whole year off. Women in Poland retire earlier than men. Many Americans travel to South American and North American countries as they are closer to travel, but not everyone is interested in traveling to Poland. Not everybody is rich enough or has the time to travel to every country in the world.
Some Poles have a belief that Americans don't travel abroad but how many, many Poles have never left Poland?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,459 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 07:50 #222
sledz: My passport was stamped perfectly equally untill some Jagoff Immigration officer at the Dublin airport looked at me and went to the last page, then stamped it and tossed it at me. Perhaps he didnt like my last name..lol He was doing his job. sledz: More google facts??? No.

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Nov 13, 09, 08:02 #223

Average Full Time Wages (PPP)
Rank Country 2007 $
1 Luxembourg 49,663
2 United States 49,483
3 Ireland 44,013
4 Switzerland 42,980
5 United Kingdom 42,560
6 Netherlands 42,514
7 Australia 42,019
8 Belgium 40,591
9 Norway 40,177
10 Denmark 39,143
11 Austria 38,682
12 France 35,430
13 Germany 35,292
14 Sweden 33,586
15 Japan 31,773
16 Finland 31,211
17 Italy 29,198
18 Spain 28,871
19 South Korea 27,587
20 Greece 26,929
21 Hungary 21,161
22 Czech Republic 18,922
23 Portugal 18,300
24 Poland 15,446

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Average_Wages_per_Country

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 13:07 #224
RevokeNice: He was doing his job. what being a dickhead pgtx: zmień płyte, śledzik... to zaczyna być nudne... why Americans can't take any critic...? is that also too hard...? Nie chcesz mieszkać w polsce a narzekasz na Amerykę. Każdy polak jest taki sam

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 13:11 #225
It's very similar to the situation between the UK and Poland. You have to take the bad with the good though.

loveMYcountryThreads: - Posts: 32 Joined: Nov 10, 09 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 21:38 #226
Yea I'm very sure! I know a lot Poles who hate Americans!!! But never as much as GERMANS

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Nov 13, 09, 22:09 #227
I guess Polish people, through their perceived higher education level, think Americans to be dumb and below them. However, the dumb Polak jokes make you wonder. Also, Americans have the best universities in the world statistically.

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,439 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Edited by: TheOther Nov 13, 09, 22:09 #228
loveMYcountry: I know a lot Poles who hate Americans!!! But never as much as GERMANS Hate? In what century are you living? Seanus: Americans have the best universities in the world statistically Just too difficult and expensive to get into.

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Edited by: krysia Nov 14, 09, 05:26 #229

Seanus:

I guess Polish people, through their perceived higher education level, think Americans to be dumb and below them

Poles don't start school until 7 years of age. in the US we start first grade at age 6. in Poland once you finish grade school , you are not required to continue your education. In US you are required to attend 4 more years of high school. Maybe they just jelous that we have more education than they do.

TheOther:

Just too difficult and expensive to get into.

Lot easier than getting into college in Poland.

BabinichThreads: 1 Posts: 1,049 Joined: May 26, 08 ♂	Nov 14, 09, 11:46 #230
ShawnH: Now with globalism, the middle class is under attack, and is shrinking. The middle class is not under attack. The middle class is left wide open to competition (thiugh unfair in many cases) from other nations. The door opening the path to globalism has been ripped right off the hinges. There is no going back.

Maaarysia

Feb 16, 10, 16:37 #231

Poles don't start school until 7 years of age. in the US we start first grade at age 6. in Poland once you finish grade school , you are not required to continue your education. In US you are required to attend 4 more years of high school. Maybe they just jelous that we have more education than they do

Krysia what a ******** you say. Who told you such rubbish?? What do you mean by "you are not required to continue your education"?? I have no idea what you talking about.
In Poland barely happens that someone drop out of school unlike in USA.
You have elementary education: 6 years
middle school: 3 years
after middle school you can choose between:
- high school (3 years) - most common option, finishing exams
- high school with education of some profession (4 years), finishing exams
- profession school (2 years) and you can continue your education in supplementary school to gain access to collage

If you dont know something better dont say anything.
Krysia why you are a self-hating Pole?

Recently someone told me a story that in Texas they still talk very offensive polish jokes. I was really disgusted to hear an example of one of them.

Maaarysia	Feb 16, 10, 17:15 #232
Ok, maybe you are right that high school is not obligatory in poland but it really doesnt happen that someone doesnt continue an education... if someone doesnt continue education then it means that he is less than zero - absolutely no work in future. So it really doesnt happen...

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Feb 16, 10, 17:17 #233
Maaarysia: Krysia why you are a self-hating Pole? Who told you such rubbish??

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Feb 16, 10, 17:47 #234

krysia:

Poles don't start school until 7 years of age. in the US we start first grade at age 6. in Poland once you finish grade school , you are not required to continue your education. In US you are required to attend 4 more years of high school. Maybe they just jelous that we have more education than they do.

In Poland education is compulsory until the age of 18, i.e. about 5 years after the grade school. So your statements are a lie, or simply uneducated guesses based on whatever you pull out of your rear end.

In parts of the US kids do not to have to attend any schools at all. Average American kids are below the academic levels and achievements by their European counterparts.

Literacy rate in Poland (99.8%) is higher than in the US (99%).

SteveramsfanThreads: 2 Posts: 400 Joined: Nov 22, 09 ♂	Feb 16, 10, 18:34 #235
Most Polish people I know don't hate Americans, there is no point hating them. At the moment Americans don't impact on their lives too much. Americans are disliked in Europe because a lot think they are better than Europeans but forget that the white Americans are Europeans who live on the West of the Atlantic.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Feb 16, 10, 18:52 #236
z_darius: So your statements are a lie, or simply uneducated guesses based on whatever you pull out of your rear end. gee, must be a Polish trait then

matteroftaste	Feb 16, 10, 19:11 #237
Eurola: I tell them they are not chained here and free to leave anytime they want. very true. I mean where I live there no Poles whatsoever but in general if someone (not only Poles) hates the country he is in, why bother, just get the butt out and go back home. "why don't they?" very good question, lol

SebastianThreads: 6 Posts: 111 Joined: Feb 16, 10 ♂	Feb 16, 10, 19:30 #238
I don't hate Americans one bit. I know a few Americans in my University, they are all cool.

Maaarysia

Feb 17, 10, 20:57 #239

It's stupid to argue which country is more literate... It's a myth that Poland has such great schools and USA such bad education. Everywhere is more less the same - if someone don't want to learn, then no one will force such person to learn, even high educational standard.

Darius, Krysia was talking about the old school system (8 years elementary school + 4 years high school)... if so, that would be 3 years not 5.

I've just checked (on wiki) that in Poland it's mandatory to learn somewhere until 18 y. of life. Usually students graduate the high school at the age of 18-19 (or 19/20 if it's "technikum").

Maaarysia

Feb 17, 10, 21:14 #240

I've never been to USA but I heard/read etc. that sometimes Poles are treated really awful in America. That they are disregarded, that there is still a myth in USA of a noneducated, slow-witted Pole.

Recently someone told me a joke he heard while staying in USA: "How do you know that a Pole was in your garden? Your trash container disapeared and your dog got pregnant!" (more less something like that). I wouldn't be suprised if someone hearing such thing, would claim any more great symphaty towards Americans. I think it's quite understandable, isn't it?

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