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Edited by: FlaglessPole  Jan 6, 12, 15:17    #1,021
Lyzko:
aka Bill O'Reilly and his self-righteous growls of Republican outrage


ha, Lyzko, check this republican growl of not so much self-righteousness as pure unadulterated retardation by Rick Santorum where he states that Poland is a dangerous country. To be more exact he says that USA is threatened by Iran and Islamic forces of Egypt and Poland. The Danish newspaper asked Santorum to comment on his rather peculiar analysis US foreign relations and the idiot stood by his statement lol

first article: http://jp.dk/udland/usa/article2655627.ece 'Polen er en farlig stat'

confirmation: http://jp.dk/udland/usa/article2655943.ece 'Jeg mener Polen'

Yay go go republicans :) Jumping Jesus on crutches what a bunch of cretins lol

Lyzko  Jan 6, 12, 18:29    #1,022
Tusind tak ska' du have, Flagless! Jag kigger bare ind i de to artikkler og bagefter fortaeller dig min mening.

Hopefully, if the Republicans throw this election too, our Concilliator in Chief (Al Franken's parole here, not mine!) will have but another four years NOT to get something done.

Clearly Hillary's the better choice, but she's focused on other things right now:-))
Lyzko  Jan 8, 12, 22:47    #1,023
Santorum's nuts! Comparing Poland with either Honduras or Iran is simply untenable. It demonstrates not only ignorance, but a Perry-style shooting from the hip!

Many thanks again for the heads-up, Flagless Pole. Det er jo lort, som han taler!!!
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 Jan 9, 12, 20:01    #1,024
From the NY Times:

Apart from these political questions, Mr. Santorum was asked about an impression, apparently created by a newspaper in Norway, that he had said that Poland was one of the greatest dangers in the world to the United States.

“Some people in Europe are asking if you really believe Poland is a dangerous country,” a reporter asked.

“I said the Obama administration stuck it to Poland by not putting a missile defense system there,” Mr. Santorum said. “I listed a bunch of countries that the Obama administration has messed up.”

“So, it was nothing against Poland?” the reporter asked.

“Oh, I love Poland,” Mr. Santorum assured him. “Are you kidding me? It’s one of my favorite countries in the world.”
Lyzko  Jan 9, 12, 23:35    #1,025
Such geopolitical ignorance etc.. is sadly common coin amongst all too many of our politicos. Seems there are no more "statesmen ( or -women) on the horizon to equal the stature of European figures, especially women, such as Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland of Norway, Dr. Angela Merkel of Germany, Mary Robinson of Ireland or Dr. Friedbergis of Latvia. America goes wanting for the likes of Dr. Jean Kirkpatrick, the most presidental, the late Ms. Barbara Jordan, Margarete Chase Smith or even Shirley Chisolm.

Wacky Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann's all we're left with??!!! PITIFULL..
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 Jan 10, 12, 02:23    #1,026
You might disagree with Santorum's approach to geopolitics, but to say he's ignorant of geopolitics isn't based on reality. He continually proves he understands the geopolitical landscape. The problem isn't Santorum's understanding, it's the lack of careful reporting on behalf of the press--as is witnessed by the Norwegian outlet that wrongly reported what he said concerning Poland.
Lyzko  Jan 10, 12, 17:20    #1,027
Think you're letting Santorum off the hook a bit too easily there, but then again, that's only me.
Face it though, on average, Europeans are generally far better educated about world affairs than most Americans, even those who've allegedly gone to college:-)
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 Jan 10, 12, 17:34    #1,028
Lyzko:
Think you're letting Santorum off the hook a bit too easily there


How's that?

Lyzko:
Face it though, on average, Europeans are generally far better educated about world affairs than most Americans, even those who've allegedly gone to college:-)


Maybe, maybe not; but, what's that got to do with Santorum's understanding of geopolitics/
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 Jan 10, 12, 20:16    #1,029
Who posted this thread, could this movement spread to Poland?!? This person obviously doesn't know Poles, they are conformists, they don't have any original ideas, they follow the Catholic Church blindly ... the protests stopped with Lech Walensa, 30 years ago!! Poland is just a cheap version of Russia, but a lot less interesting
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 Jan 10, 12, 20:53    #1,030
^^ Quit bashing Poland, will you?
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 Jan 10, 12, 20:58    #1,031
krakow73:
Poland is just a cheap version of Russia, but a lot less interesting

Why do you post here then?
Lyzko  Jan 10, 12, 22:56    #1,032
Rick Santorum's American, isn't he? Well, by incontrovertible logic, he reflects his often pig-ignorant electorate. If you recall not too, too long ago, we had a VP who couldn't spell "potato":-))))!!! Many of our former presidents revealed a poor knowledge of geography (much less foreign languages), so it's no surprise really that Santorum said what he allegedly said. Whether he meant it now, that's another thing entirely.
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 Jan 11, 12, 03:05    #1,033
Lyzko:
Rick Santorum's American, isn't he? Well, by incontrovertible logic, he reflects his often pig-ignorant electorate.


C'mon, Lyzko, think about what you're saying here. You are making the claim that either the entire 12.6 million people of the State of Pennsylvania (where Santorum served as Senator) or the entire 307 million people in the USA are pig-ignorant. You also make the claim that one individual, by virtue of him being elected by a majority of that populations voters, is ipso facto pig-ignorant. Such is neither incontrovertible or logical or astute.
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Edited by: Babinich  Jan 11, 12, 04:31    #1,034
Lyzko:
Many of our former presidents revealed a poor knowledge of geography (much less foreign languages)


Former???

POTUS said he visited fifty-seven United States, that Hawaii was in Asia & that the citizens of Austria spoke Austrian.
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 Jan 11, 12, 09:13    #1,035
AntV:
“Oh, I love Poland,” Mr. Santorum assured him. “Are you kidding me? It’s one of my favorite countries in the world.”


Heh yeah that was after his original statement,(which he btw was staunchly defending) comparing Poland to Egypt then he retracted, undoubtedly having been made aware of what a buffoon he is in the eyes of others, who actually have a modicum of geopolitical knowledge.
Lyzko  Jan 11, 12, 17:16    #1,036
C'mon yourself!

Outside the major urban areas of the US, (incidentally I GREW UP in rural PA partly!), most folks out there, nothin' against 'em as folks, believe neither in evolution nor in the prospect that it, along with science, should be taught in high schools!!! Add to that, foreign language programs being cut right and left, geography being subsumed by 'world history'.....
Sorry to burst your nationalistic bubble, but the sad facts clearly speak for themselves. Where have you been?

I'm as patriotic as the next man, but it's BECAUSE I love this country, what it once was, do I dare criticize it so stongly. One can love one's parents, yet also be loveingly critical of them, can't one?!
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 Jan 11, 12, 20:14    #1,037
Lyzko:
Outside the major urban areas of the US, (incidentally I GREW UP in rural PA partly!), most folks out there, nothin' against 'em as folks, believe neither in evolution nor in the prospect that it, along with science, should be taught in high schools!!! Add to that, foreign language programs being cut right and left, geography being subsumed by 'world history'.....
Sorry to burst your nationalistic bubble, but the sad facts clearly speak for themselves. Where have you been?

I'm as patriotic as the next man, but it's BECAUSE I love this country, what it once was, do I dare criticize it so stongly. One can love one's parents, yet also be loveingly critical of them, can't one?!


I'm not saying you shouldn't criticize or that you're unpatriotic or anything of the sort. Scratching my head on how you come to the conclusion that I'm remotely suggesting such. But, anyway...

My criticism of your post was that you made a claim that by virtue of Santorum being an American he is pig-ignorant, because he is a reflection of his electorate. You said that such is incontrovertible logic. My criticism is your "incontrovertible logic." I fail to see any logic in it, let alone it being incontrovertible. To use your "incontrovertible logic": you, Lyzko, an American from rural PA, are pig-ignorant with no knowledge of geopolitics, geography, etc. BTW, I'm not saying you are--I don't know you and haven't had the pleasure of discussing geopolitics/geography/etc. with you.

Also, your claim that most folks, outside major urban areas, don't believe in evolution and that science shouldn't be taught is a tough one to buy. What are you basing your information off of? I'm not denying that there are folks who believe that--I personally know some; but, just because there are some who believe such doesn't mean that their neighbor believes the same.

This isn't meant as anything malicious toward you as a person, but I think the unsupported opinion that is passed as fact and logic as you put forward as incontrovertible is the shortcoming of the topic of this thread, the OWS movement. There are certainly things that the citizenry should be railing against, but what seems to be the animus of ows is unintelligible and baseless. If OWS were railing against crony capitalism and occupying DC instead of Wall Street, I'd pay attention. Instead what we get is a whole bunch of illogical, scatterbrained, unsupported, platitudinous rants and slogans that indict not Wall Street as corrupt but the intelligence and veracity of the protesters.

I agree that our schools are not doing a good job--especially the urban public schools, but many of the private and suburban public schools do good jobs in educating their students. When you look at the data from OECD that show American students lagging, they are not including 12% of the student population (the roughly 6 million private school children) in their stats. If you add them into the equation the picture isn't as bleek. But, I do ackowledge that our urban public school system is severely broken.

BTW, no need to apologize for bursting my nationalistic bubble, it was bursted many years ago :)
Lyzko  Jan 11, 12, 23:53    #1,038
I may well have gone a trifle over the top (...but ONLY a trifle)!
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 Apr 17, 12, 15:45    #1,039
They're Back!
Those ahem, friendly, nice, occupy folks are doing their thing. I can't wait until summer when they start destroying property; and that's because they are the 'good guys as they self-proclaim themselves.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/15/nyc-occupy-thugs-sm ash-starbucks-shout-all-pigs-must-die
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 Apr 17, 12, 16:18    #1,040
Who said protesters should be nice? They are protesting ffs. Peaceful protest is an oxymoron.
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 Apr 17, 12, 20:30    #1,041
PlasticPole:
Who said protesters should be nice?

Is property damage okay?
PlasticPole:
They are protesting ffs

If only they'd stick to that. Will the rapes and fights be repeated?
PlasticPole:
Peaceful protest is an oxymoron.

Is collateral damage acceptable? When (not if) innocent people are negatively affected, is that ok as long as it's not you?


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