PolAms as seen in the false mirror of the PF. Type A and Type B.

By using that "us" and also the "everyone else" ... do you mean Poland = Everyone else; and USA = us ... in your case? ;) ...

we are both Polish but do not think the same.

By using that "us" and also the "everyone else" ... do you mean Poland = Everyone else; and USA = us ... in your case? ;) ...

Exactly! You only visited Poland 7 times over 20 years but you didn't share living in Poland. Yet you believe you are an expert on Polish matters.

Guessie, thank you for answering. The point is: Someone pointed out that 80% of US Polonia voters chose a presidential candidate in Poland while the same candidate lost his votes in Poland.

Patrycja, I sympathize with you regarding your Grandma. I have already lost both of my parents so I know what it means.

I think the renouncing citizenship and restoring it that you mention are about the US citizenship.

I know Poles who just came over and don't even have a basic knowledge of Polish history or the political scene.

I've never said I'm an expert, i just said i definitely know more than the average Pole.

Maybe PO supporters are being liberal just to be liberal, or supporting a prime ministers party just because it's from their region( Pomerania) or because he represents a ethnic minority (Kasubians, Silesian Germans).

Yeah, Lodz, point taken. I could only say GuessWho as a non-Polam American has a deep sense of identification with her own nation. This makes her say "us" and I would absolutely accept that since this is the American cultural specialty.

So different to us, Poles, because "where two Poles, there three opinions", the voters split 50/50, and the "silent majority" does not vote at all but the Polonia votes for them... ;-)

fight people who push me out..

Edit: DID YOU WRITE "SILESIAN GERMANS"? Penny, you would be annihilated in Upper Silesia

they always picture themselves as some different Darkish color with a white man's features etc

I know what they are or call themselves (Silesians) they are in reality not true Silesians (Slavs) but Germans who stayed in the Silesian region, therefore Silesian Germans. Those Silesian Slavs have long seen themselves as Poles.

Who pushes you out? ... they must be mad :D .. seriously crazy :) ...

but anyone before voting should stay atleast one unbroken reign of a government to understand the country's requirements... right? :)

Almost universally, they come from Poland B.

ignored the moral of the Sienkiewicz tale on Ketling

Type I is the stereotypical "Polack" - very uptight about Poland, regards themselves as being Polish, claims to be an expert on Poland, blindly supports the rhetoric of parties who "defend Poland"

they can be called Plastic Poles

Not to say I do not have PolAm friends, specifically those who expatriated in 1980's. Not to say I do not have Romanian friends immigrating to the United States in 2000's. These real-life contacts can be divided into two groups:
A. People grateful to the new country that has given them new opportunities but new challenges, too. At the same time these people are:
1. Trying to totally melt in the new society, why not, this is what inhabitants of almost all countries expect from immigrants;
2. Trying to maintain the link with the Old Country.
3. Ambassadors for Poland, Polish culture, the Polish cause, trying to reflect the Poland's matters in the positive light

B. People who believe they were blessed by God by their immigration to US/Canada and who:
1. Feel superior to compatriots left in the Old Country
2. Despise Poland and Poland's Poles
3. Describe Poland as a hopeless, poor, backwards, and failed country
4. Live in dreams based on what Poland was when they were leaving her
5. Express the darked political/social views with total lack of understanding what has happened to Poland while they were staying in the new country.
6. Are the smartest and most successful people in the world, while Poland's Poles are dumb jackasses.

That ended badly for Daisy, Heinrich divorced her and let her die in poverty and oblivion,

immigrants from Poland who have arrived recently in America and gotten citizenship, but these Polish-Americans are by far the minority of Polish-Americans. Polish-Americans number some 10 million people most of whom are 2nd, or 2rd, or, 4rth generation American citizens.

Polish-Americans number some 10 million people most of whom are 2nd, or 2rd, or, 4rth generation American citizens. We do not need to "try to melt" into American society because we are an integral part of it and have been so for decades. Most of us do not even try to maintain a link to Poland either nor do we consider ourselves Polish ambassadors.

Uh, the behaviour by many Polish Americans, such as yourself, suggest that you do indeed consider yourself to be an ambassador of Poland.

You're certainly great ambassadors for the racism of the 2nd RP and Poland B in general.

I speak for myself on this forum not for Poland, nor have I ever claimed otherwise.

I side with Piłsudski and not with Dmowski when evaluating the 2nd Republic and I have never made a racist comment on this forum.

You on the otherhand have made racist remarks about the impurity of Polish-American blood and were suspended yesterday for so doing

So, you approve of Piłsudski's concept of emcompassing many people within the Polish state? You approve of Poland being home to essentially anyone who wants a home, regardless of ethnic origin? Riiiight. Your comments about Germans says quite the opposite.

Ask yourself about the purity of people such as Mickiewicz, Pilsudski, et al - and you might just learn why Polish-American blood is highly unlikely to be 100% Polish, especially as many of them came from the desperately poor Eastern borderlands.