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 Mar 9, 11, 10:55    #1
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three senators supported the proposal in the usa Senate


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Edited by: Harry  Mar 9, 11, 10:58    #2
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sign in and tell friends!

Why? I very much like the fact that Poles have a very clear reminder of exactly what they mean to the USA.
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 Mar 9, 11, 11:07    #3
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Its not going to make any difference Poles will visit the US and will stay there illegally, then the visa will be revoked.

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three senators supported the proposal in the usa Senate

of Polish ancestry no doubt.
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 Mar 9, 11, 11:11    #4
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three senators supported the proposal in the usa Senate


Please, get your facts right.

It was actually one senator and two members of the House of Representatives that are backing it.

Wroclaw Boy:
Its not going to make any difference Poles will visit the US and will stay there illegally, then the visa will be revoked.


Sikorski actually said the other day that Poles need to help themselves by not overstaying the visas that they currently get.
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Mar 9, 11, 12:38    #5
delphiandomine wrote:

Sikorski actually said the other day that Poles need to help themselves by not overstaying the visas that they currently get.

It's so funny to watch Poles have the "America sucks....but it's dispicable that we all can't visit there whenever we want, how offensive!" conversation.


"I hate your family.....but what's wrong with them, why don't they invite me to their house more often for dinner?"
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 Mar 9, 11, 13:41    #6
Harry:
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sign in and tell friends!

Why? I very much like the fact that Poles have a very clear reminder of exactly what they mean to the USA.


I am totally agree with that.
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 Mar 9, 11, 14:24    #7
FUZZYWICKETS:
It's so funny to watch Poles have the "America sucks....but it's dispicable that we all can't visit there whenever we want, how offensive!" conversation.

You are still here you twit ?
Shouldn't you be preoccupied with your American dream ?As I said you are a bureaucrat, with a lot time on his hands !
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 Mar 9, 11, 21:08    #8
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Great chance Poland for Visa Waiver Program sign in and tell friends!


Why most Poles abandoned their country at first chance they get, does it really suck that bad??


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Well we dont need anymore Illegals, and there arent jobs just waiting to be picked off trees here anymore.
Why dont you try and make something out of your country instead of running away to the UK or USA????

delphiandomine:

Sikorski actually said the other day that Poles need to help themselves by not overstaying the visas that they currently get.


Its about time someone with some sense spoke up over there!

We should end all Visas until we can deport the Illegals we have in here now:)
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 Mar 9, 11, 21:43    #9
FUZZYWICKETS:
It's so funny to watch Poles have the "America sucks....but it's dispicable that we all can't visit there whenever we want, how offensive!" conversation.

Yes, ain't that the truth. Poles should do something out of their own country instead of acting like beggers and sluts in other countries. They go to UK or US and work as nannies or bartenders, then they complain. The UK is so sick of those Poles who either can't find a job and walk around drunk or take away jobs from the residents. Poles think there is a better life somewhere else instead of appreciating Poland, which is beautiful and full of history. When foreigners come to Poland, they get treated bad and are called names.
This would be very bad for the Polish economy if they got on the visa waiver program. Half of Poland would leave thinking money grows on trees in the US then complain about the US that it wasn't so. They only want to come here for money and jobs, but guess what? There aren't any jobs here. There are too many Poles sitting here illegally already, don't need more. They should stay in Poland and better their own country and learn to be more honest with one another.
Ironside:
You are still here you twit ?

The only twit here is you
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 Mar 9, 11, 23:21    #10
tygrys:
When foreigners come to Poland, they get treated bad and are called names.


Not true.

Poles on the whole are very welcoming towards foreigners - the only bad treatment I've seen (apart from the usual racist crap that happens in every country) is when some dumb Americans have done something....dumb.
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Mar 10, 11, 04:04    #11
ironside wrote:

12 millions or more illegal Mexicans, maybe more, a big corporations are fukking you big time, and you talking about making something out of your country?

and his VERY next sentence was:

You have been just lucky to be born there

like i said, another typical "USA sucks but it's also great" spouting Pole.

clear as day, your anger towards americans is all from pure jealousy.

you gotta be the biggest joke on here, Ironside. it's embarrassing reading your posts.
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 Mar 10, 11, 04:25    #12
Why most Poles abandoned their country at first chance they get

Why do most people abandon their country? This is a question beside the point - a visa waiver program means you can come to visit without a visa (as in, come over, see the sights, go home). You'll still need a work visa to work, or a study visa to study. Even Canadians need a work visa to work in the US.

Why wouldn't we want people to come to visit the US? I'm all in favor of it. Although, to tell you the truth, one senator and 2 congressmen means there is zero support for that. And if they read this thread by some coincidence, my bet is two out of the three would change their mind, anyway.
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 Mar 10, 11, 04:30    #13
ItsAllAboutME:
Why


ok that's it. This forum is for polish people not Yankees. Go to bed.
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 Mar 10, 11, 08:46    #14
FUZZYWICKETS:
like i said, another typical "USA sucks but it's also great" spouting Pole.

What the heck are you talking about? My post was an answer to particular poster whose attitude gets on my tits !
Do not pretend, you don't know that!
If you want my opinion about USA as a country, not about government or policy, I have nothing to hide - I think that USA is a country of many opportunities, saying that, to have a real chance to success, one have to be citizen, specially it goes for Europeans.
We had a many discussion about visas, so there no point talking about that.

FUZZYWICKETS:
clear as day, your anger towards americans is all from pure jealousy.

My angers towards some of the yanks who spread they crab on PF, comes from them being ass-holes!
FUZZYWICKETS:
[quote] it's embarrassing reading your posts

Sure, fuzz, I love you too, you see nothing wrong with tygrys posts, but my responses are embarrassing ?eh?
Sure, whatever ....
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 Mar 10, 11, 14:10    #15
ironside wrote:

I think that USA is a country of many opportunities, saying that, to have a real chance to success, one have to be citizen, specially it goes for Europeans.

what a joke. you have NEVER lived in the USA, better yet, you've never even VISITED the USA, yet you make outlandish claims such as this one all the time. "have to be a citizen, especially for Europeans"??? WHAT?! Uhhhchhh......your statements are constant reminders to us all how you want the USA to be, not what the USA actually is. I will never understand where Poles such as yourself get all this animosity towards the USA, especially those, such as yourself.....you know, those with absolutely ZERO first hand experience being in the country whatsoever.

Ironside, do you know personally any europeans that moved to the USA, under normal circumstances.....and are struggling horribly to make ends meet? You couldn't possibly be making these kinds of statements based on what you read on the internet and see on TVN would you? :O

My wife is from Europe, she's years away from becoming a citizen of the USA and she's doing pretty damn good. Great job, great salary and benefits, drives a new car to work and back every day.....go figure, huh? And you know what, her company here in the USA is probably 1/3 european, all of them making great salaries, enjoying their lives like any other "citizen" does.
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Edited by: Moderator  Mar 10, 11, 15:43    #16
FUZZYWICKETS:
will never understand where Poles such as yourself get all this animosity towards the USA, especially those, such as yourself.....you know, those with absolutely ZERO first hand experience being in the country whatsoever.


The guy is totally obsessed about America and what we can do for Poland, like we owe him something?

Hes just jealous because Poles arent put up on his high and mighty pedestal.

And he also fails to realize that it was his own fellow countrymen that broke the laws by overstaying their visas and now the honest Poles have to pay the price of others criminal actions.

Why give Visa`s to a country with a long history of absconding?
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 Mar 10, 11, 18:21    #17
Harry:
Why? I very much like the fact that Poles have a very clear reminder of exactly what they mean to the USA.


What do you mean? Punk...
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Edited by: Ironside  Mar 10, 11, 18:37    #18
FUZZYWICKETS:
what a joke

Yeah, fuzz, why are you boiling if I'm talking BS? What did I said?Let make it simple for you:
- that U.S. is country of opportunity - not everyone will be successful - any-problem with that ?
- that to have a better chance to become successful one needs U.S. citizenship - will you be nitpicking on that too?just because you don't like me?
Your wife is your spouse it is a different kettle of fish !You know that, you cannot be that dumb !
All that generally speaking, there will be always some exception, gee Am I talking to a big child ?

sledz:
The guy is totally obsessed about America and what we can do for Poland, like we owe him something?


No, really, but I'm interested in American history. To be honest sledz, it is fuzz's and your previous rants and generalisations about Poles just bring the worst in me!
I have no personal incentive in Poland joining the WVP, I don't need visa to U.S.! It simply rattling me when Poland is helping U.S , her soldiers die, money needed elsewhere are spent on U.S. military missions, billions of dollars goes to U.S military complex, and then Czech Republic join the WVP - done exactly null, nothing comparing to Poland, or Lithuania when 2/3 of the population would undoubtedly end up in U.S.
How about military aid to Turks, which done a big f...you for U.S.!
Never mind all that, the most infuriating is your attitude, if you had said that is the way politics works, no friendships, you have to haggle about everything, if they can kick you it means they will, sorry that the reality !
I would have had said, fine dude, you can do nothing about that, let's talk turkey!
But no, you Yanks are going personal, then talk down about Poland and Poles, and what exactly you expect ? What you deserve - kick in the balls ?
Funny, only first generation of Yanks (judging from PF) are so condensing, why don't you ask your parents or grandparents why they run away and didn't better their country?
I personally don't care whatever each of you is a millionaire with a black four feet long dick, or a dick-less slum dweller, I care only about arguments and the way you talk about Poland and Poles.
I must say that the way you do it sucks big time!
sledz:
You should be the poster child for dumb polocks!

Sorry sledz, Eurola says that you are a good dude in reality but on PF you come across like that sometime!

sledz:
And he also fails to realize that it was his own fellow countrymen that broke the laws by overstaying their visas and now the honest Poles have to pay the price of others criminal actions.

You system sucks, you should improve your immigration laws, and the way they are implemented.
sledz:
Hes just jealous because Poles arent put up on his high and mighty pedestal.

No, because they are not given their due ! Don't think that jealous is a right word.

fter watching this, Fuzzywickets came to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juxm4P4fnq8&tracker=False
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 Mar 10, 11, 18:53    #19
Poland is kowtowing to the Yanks for years...For what? Almost every other Central European country is going visa-free to the Yanks... but they biggest slave (sorry no pun intended) has to brave mindless US Embassy officials...
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Edited by: tygrys  Mar 10, 11, 20:15    #20
sobieski:
Almost every other Central European country is going visa-free to the Yanks...

If these "yanks" are so bad and evil, then why do you want a visa? Is it because Poland thinks they might be worse than everyone else and feels left behind? Why do Poles always think they have to be better than everyone else? If so many Poles haven't overstayed their visas and go back home, there would be no such problem.
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 Mar 12, 11, 02:35    #21
tygrys:
If so many Poles haven't overstayed their visas and go back home, there would be no such problem.


And, because Poles can not cross the borders just like the Mexicans do, the only way to stop the illegal immigration is to deny visas. Poles have a long history of coming to America. No other communist block country had that privilege, ever. Unfortunately, it was abused and the results are obvious. So what that the other countries have visa free entry granted? Times changed, and there is not need for Czechs or Latvians to leave their countries now. Is there? Trust me, if they could do it 50 or 30 years ago - they would.
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 Mar 12, 11, 02:47    #22
Eurola:
Times changed, and there is not need for Latvians to leave their countries now

Ha!Just wait, problem is there few and between of them.
Eurola:
he only way to stop the illegal immigration is to deny visas.

Yeah, as if big bosses and fat cats and a lobby behind U.S. government cared :D
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 Mar 12, 11, 04:29    #23
Eurola:
And, because Poles can not cross the borders just like the Mexicans do, the only way to stop the illegal immigration is to deny visas. Poles have a long history of coming to America. No other communist block country had that privilege, ever. Unfortunately, it was abused and the results are obvious.

Very true.
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Edited by: sledz  Mar 14, 11, 17:13    #24
tygrys:
If so many Poles haven't overstayed their visas and go back home, there would be no such problem.


We all know this, but some people on this forum live in denial:)
Eurola:
No other communist block country had that privilege, ever. Unfortunately, it was abused and the results are obvious


They ruined it for all the honest ones, thats for sure!
It just shows how selfish and lack of moral fiber the Poles have, to choose a criminal life instead of building a future in their own country. They will leave everything behind even their own families, just to chase a dollar!
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Edited by: Ironside  Mar 14, 11, 17:48    #25
sledz:
They will leave everything behind even their own families, just to chase a dollar!

Isn't that an American Way of Life ?
sledz:
It just shows how selfish and lack of moral fiber the Poles have,

Sure, that trait is especially characteristic for immigrants to America, you sir must have that trait in your genes,eh?
tygrys:
f so many Poles haven't overstayed their visas and go back home, there would be no such problem.

If Indians wouldn't given food to starving English immigrants,the world would be a possibly better place.
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 Mar 14, 11, 17:55    #26
They will leave everything behind even their own families, just to chase a dollar!

In your case this powerful force to chase the dollar got you all the way to Chicago. Not very original choice of destination for a Pole but I suppose you feel more at home there. LOL
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 Mar 14, 11, 19:49    #27
Ironside:
If Indians wouldn't given food to starving English immigrants,the world would be a possibly better place.

If Indians weren't scalping and killing the whites the world would be a different place. So?
Poles are good people but they just don't obey the rules that's why we have that problem.
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 Mar 14, 11, 20:20    #28
tygrys:
If Indians weren't scalping and killing the whites the world would be a different place.

What are you even talking about?
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 Mar 14, 11, 20:36    #29
Ironside:
What are you even talking about?

I believe hes referring to the butterfly effect which you instigated.
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 Mar 14, 11, 20:42    #30
Wroclaw Boy:
I believe hes referring to the butterfly effect which you instigated.

He sucks at that !


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