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CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 01:03 #1
my starting random selection :) Here are Poles >>> Philadelphia Pulaski Day Parade String band at Pulaski Day Parade, October 2010 Philadelphia Proud To Be Polish: Food and More Food and here are Serbs >>> Serbians celebrate Christmas in USA Serbian Christmas Celebrated In Jackson Serbian wedding in Chicago

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 01:12 #2
Crow: Serbian Christmas Celebrated In Jackson The mind boggles......lovely church though.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 27, 11, 01:28 #3
modern day Racowie on bikes instead on horses >>>> Serbian Bikers from USA Serbian Day Niagara Falls 2008

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 03:38 #4
Crow,do you fire the shotguns away from or right at the church(I know they will be blank loads,hopefully) but it looked like right at the Church from the clip. (There is nothing in this question except curiosity)

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 03:56 #5
isthatu2: (There is nothing in this question except curiosity) Sure, either that or a snide d1ckhead limey comment.. Looks like a cool tradition to me. Lots of California hillsides are empty anyway. Those dudes were just having fun and celebrating in their own way. Cheers to them.

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 05:17 #6
Blow it out of your arse prospector pete..... Just want to know simple fact,is firing at a church symbolic of something,waking the baby jesus up or something...or in Serbia is this normally done in the streets as celebration,with it being the states do they have to go to private property,ie their church , to do this legally?

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Jan 27, 11, 08:15 #7

isthatu2:

with it being the states do they have to go to private property,ie their church , to do this legally?

..This depends on local ordinances.. they might have needed a permit and even if it's illegal I doubt it's enforced much. That's some remote Cali town (away from the coast, tourism). Still a lot of ranchers, produce farmers people like that.. they just do whatever the hell usually.

isthatu2:

,is firing at a church symbolic of something,waking the baby jesus up or something...

I don't think they were literally firing at the church. The same thing is done in Mexico on Christmas I believe.

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Jan 27, 11, 09:41 #8

Crow:

my starting random selection :)

Here are Poles >>>

Philadelphia Pulaski Day Parade
String band at Pulaski Day Parade, October 2010 Philadelphia
Proud To Be Polish: Food and More Food
and here are Serbs >>>

Serbians celebrate Christmas in USA
Serbian Christmas Celebrated In Jackson
Serbian wedding in Chicago

Crow, thanks for your posting of Polish and Serbian American celebrations.

I didn't know that's how Serbian Americans celebrated Christmas and their weddings and found those videos interesting.

:)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 11:29 #9
isthatu2: Just want to know simple fact,is firing at a church symbolic of something I think it comes from the times when a mufti called the muslims for prey standing at the top of the minaret.

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 12:29 #10
isthatu2: Just want to know simple fact,is firing at a church symbolic of something,waking the baby jesus up or something... LOL yep the little bugger snores way too loud

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Jan 27, 11, 15:51 #11

Pinching Pete:

This depends on local ordinances..

Thanks Pete.

Pinching Pete:

I don't think they were literally firing at the church. The same thing is done in Mexico on Christmas I believe.

Again,thanks,thats where I was coming from,the mediteranian countries like Spain and Italy that Ive spent Christmas times in seem "noisy" too in their celebrations unlike boring old UK...that was all :)

FlaglessPole:

yep the little bugger snores way too loud

LMAO,yes,did come across a bit twee,I guess coz a little part of me was worried it might be something like southerns answer lol The Spanish have some rather "grim" ways of celebrating the expulsion of the Moors and I wondered if this was a similar idea..

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 18:34 #12
Ukrainians in USA >>> Ukrainians of Chicago celebrate the 18th anniversary of independence The Ukrainian fest 2009 in sts. Volodymyr and Olha Catholic Church in Chicago MUST LISTEN; beautiful song... The Ukrainian Fest "TOLOKA" in Bloomingdale, IL USA

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 18:37 #13
Wonderful :)

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Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 18:43 #14

Lodz_The_Boat:

Wonderful :)

when we are at beauty of Slavic music, now listen this.... Ukrainian song that awakening deepest feelings in Serbs, remind us how our brotherly Slavs came to help us when Turks invaded and when west of Europe sold us in schemes with Turks >>> Ukrainian song `JIHAV KOZAK... za Dunaj` sang by Serbian singer Merima Njegomir >>>

MERIMA NJEGOMIR - JIHAV KOZAK (ИХАВ КОЗАК)

modern version of same song >

Їхав козак за Дунай Ukrainian folk song by "Гурт Експрес"

Only Slavija means life!

southern:

I think it comes from the times when a mufti called the muslims for prey standing at the top of the minaret.

that`s the good one. Something was in the air ;)

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Jan 27, 11, 18:52 #15

Crow:

that`s the good one. Something was in the air ;)

Why you, by your own hands (mind) wreck the beauty that you so much love and almost worship? ... that southern made a black stain with that comment on your beautiful thread.

Crow ... trust me I wish for the prosperity (and I think you know) ... but in today's world, love is the key to life ... and hating muslims even in an aggregate way will not help in any cause. There are tatar muslims who are very patriotic about Poland ... never forget them.

Plus ... I've told before ... heart's cannot be chained. No ones ... not even of member's of your or my family ... how long can one go with such mentality?

I don't know if any of my words will ever make you think or take it positively. But, maybe out of a general brotherly concern ... I make my points.

Thank you for all the songs ... I wish to see more. :)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 18:54 #16
Crow: that`s the good one. Something was in the air ;) I guess in most cases they just wanted to sleep and a nuisance voice did not let them so they just pointed at this direction.

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Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 19:04 #17

Lodz_The_Boat:

Why you, by your own hands (mind) wreck the beauty that you so much love and almost worship? ... that southern made a black stain with that comment on your beautiful thread.

you see things that way? well, i personally took it as joke and relaxation. But, after all listen... freedom is precious thing. Serbs killed for freedom several times. Simply, that`s how it is. Our history is nothing but constant resistance. Our blood mark all borders of Slavija. We are Serbs proud to be Gate Keepers of Slavija. But we didn`t choose that role. It just happen to be that way.

Lodz_The_Boat:

Crow ... trust me I wish for the prosperity (and I think you know) ... but in today's world, love is the key to life ... and hating muslims even in an aggregate way will not help in any cause. There are tatar muslims who are very patriotic about Poland ... never forget them.

i wish all the best to all Muslims. Let us cooperate with them and let us mutually prosper. Just, Slavic civilization is Slavic world. Our realm, our rules.

Lodz_The_Boat:

Plus ... I've told before ... heart's cannot be chained. No ones ... not even of member's of your or my family ... how long can one go with such mentality?

relax. Just relax and don`t worry that much

Lodz_The_Boat:

I don't know if any of my words will ever make you think or take it positively. But, maybe out of a general brotherly concern ... I make my points.

i know to listen, i assure you

Lodz_The_Boat:

Thank you for all the songs ... I wish to see more. :)

don`t thank me. Thank to Mother Slavija

i was born in Yugoslavia and i founded scent. i never regretted all Serbian blood shed for the Yugoslavia, that most beautiful dream. We Serbians defended that dream. Yugoslavia, that little sister of beloved Mother Slavija. Our world

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Jan 27, 11, 19:20 #18

Crow:

Serbs killed for freedom several times.

Why do you say "killed". You could say ... they participated in battles ... or just avoid that word.

Dont think I am being too critical. But if you are someone who want to make your point to public ... to people of Poland, or all the Slavic countries ... or around the world. Then you must know what and how to say it. It makes a huge different my friend ... and then you become someone all people like to listen to ... and not get angry!

Crow:

But we didn`t choose that role. It just happen to be that way.

It was the past. People have fought and killed each other. Great conquerors from all the nations lead their army against the other. Whether Slavic of even Turk (and turk's did have some great warriors too, to be fare). Not to mention the Mongols!

Remembering the past for history's sake is good. But to remember it for boiling our blood again is not the key to salvation of any progress ... it only burns blood ... and it only creates depression.

Crow:

Let us cooperate with them and let us mutually prosper. Just, Slavic civilization is Slavic world. Our realm, our rules.

This one is better :) ... Slavs have their history and civilization ... we have something to give to the world too ... some very good things ... and our rules must be in accordance to humanity and follow a Global value system which is humane and makes a uniting effect!

Crow:

relax. Just relax and don`t worry that much

Its not a worry my friend ... its a fare remark on what is easily a truth. Why should I worry against something which have its own remarkable beauty! How love encompasses all ... is just beauty at play! Beauty is so much more than just a word!

Crow:

don`t thank me. Thank to Mother Slavija

I thanked an angry son of Mother Slavija ... :D ... she will not mind trust me :) ... but she will mind when he shatters his own tribute to her, with some actions he could change or control so easily ... had he made his heart softer :)

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Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 19:35 #19

Bulgarians in USA >>>

The National Day of Bulgaria in Chicago

Kamelia LIVE in Bulgarian Restaurant BULGARA, NY

MUST LISTEN, nice song...

Bulgarian Restaurant Mexanata, Ilinois

Lodz_The_Boat:

Why do you say "killed". You could say ... they participated in battles ... or just avoid that word.

he, he... Serbs live on the `edge` ;)

Lodz_The_Boat:

Dont think I am being too critical. But if you are someone who want to make your point to public ... to people of Poland, or all the Slavic countries ... or around the world. Then you must know what and how to say it. It makes a huge different my friend ... and then you become someone all people like to listen to ... and not get angry!

Don`t worry, Poles can`t be angry at Serbs. They have only love for Racowie

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 20:46 #20
Crow: Poles can`t be angry at Serbs Sometimes they can ... But anyways ... I've said enough ... and we discussed enough :) ... why go away from this magnificent mood? Give some folk songs ... and as you often write ... write here about the various traditions ... sub cultures... etc... in its most positive presentation ... :)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 22:44 #21
Lodz_The_Boat: Why do you say "killed". You could say ... they participated in battles . When you participate in a battle you are not always the killer.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jan 27, 11, 22:51 #22
Poles in USA >>> 2010 Polish Constitution Day - Chicago, Il.- Part 1 Taste of Polonia in USA, Chicago 2010 Lenny Gomulka & Chicago Push - Happy Bachelor Polka Iwona & Cyprian's Polish Wedding Brooklyn New York City NYC Wedding 140 Years of Polish Folk Dance New York - Boston Concert - Part 1

MediaWatchThreads: 31 Posts: 1,305 Joined: Aug 30, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 11, 03:38 #23
Crow, I'll bet Serbian Americans are celebrating Novak Djokovic's tennis success. http://www.montrealgazette.com/Could+rthis+finally+Djokovic+time/41812 15/story.html http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70Q5A020110127

indrakc2009Threads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Jan 28, 11 ♂	Jan 28, 11, 04:32 #24
how fantastice

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Jan 28, 11, 05:39 #25
Awesome thread, Crow.

tygrysThreads: 2 Posts: 404 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Jan 28, 11, 06:19 #26
Crow: How Poles and other Slavs celebrate in USA; Let us see and enjoy with them nice, but if an American wanted to celebrate in Poland, he would be frowned upon

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Jan 28, 11, 08:34 #27

tygrys:

but if an American wanted to celebrate in Poland, he would be frowned upon

No ... I don't think so. Why do you have to think like this?

People might stand in crowed and stare at you with amusement! But is that not something natural? ... Maybe many Americans also stared at the Slavic festivals in USA! It is completely natural and even can be termed as "friendly".

Why do you have to think in a depressing way! Think good and be happy ... come Poland and celebrate... we will also see how it is among you!

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Jan 28, 11, 11:28 #28

Lodz_The_Boat:

Crow ... trust me I wish for the prosperity (and I think you know) ... but in today's world, love is the key to life ...

Are you teaching him PR? Oh dear! ;p

tygrys:

nice, but if an American wanted to celebrate in Poland, he would be frowned upon

Depends, if he had a Polish family back here maybe they would have frowned or they would be curious. Remember that Poles through ages liked to learn new thing and make their "own" style. Poland was once a place of extreme mixture of things :=)

Lodz_The_Boat:

No ... I don't think so. Why do you have to think like this?

Becaouse of how many Poles think about American food culture or general American culture. Many see it as not "real" culture.

It instignates a fight with nationalistic idea of culture and an idealistic or patriotical one

Lodz_The_Boat:

People might stand in crowed and stare at you with amusement! But is that not something natural? ... Maybe many Americans also stared at the Slavic festivals in USA! It is completely natural and even can be termed as "friendly".

True, true but he wasn't shooting in the air (that was quite... special Crow ;))

Crow:

my starting random selection :)

I must say I enjoyed it thank you ! :=)

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Edited by: Crow Jan 28, 11, 17:20 #29

isthatu2:

Crow,do you fire the shotguns away from or right at the church(I know they will be blank loads,hopefully) but it looked like right at the Church from the clip.

no. i don`t fire from the rifle or pistol at Christmas. i live in urban area, city of Novi Sad and only rarely people here shot from the pistol at Christmas. Sometimes i uses petards, as many people. Petards are usual in cities and guns are more in use in village areas.

Fairing from guns is very rare (and its not legal!), anywhere in urban ares in Serbia. Its rural (villages) custom and as anywhere, rural customs are considered to be more according to old tradition. i suppose, that is the main reason why Serbs in Chicago used to fire from shotguns at Christmas. They are urban people but simple due to nostalgia they turning to some Serbian rural customs.

and, no its not allowed on the Church`s property. Nor fairing from guns, nor petards. Later more on this custom

Mayors of Chicago and Belgrade (Serbian capital) meet

Belgrade Mayor Djilas visits Chicago - Gradonacelnik Djilas u Cikagu

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 11, 17:33 #30
Thanks crow. lol,I didnt expect theyd let you out on the streets of Novi Sad with shotguns...I did think that was probably more of a farmer/villager tradition :)

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