Why are Polish Americans mocked in the american media?

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Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Mar 30, 11, 02:42 #211
Bzibzioh: Opinions were split evenly. The problem is that too many people have red light go on when they hear the name of their country. And if it's something negative that red light shines on the whole perception of that situation. I would say in 99% cases it's not the intention to mock the country. The name of the country just happened to be said without further connotations.

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Mar 30, 11, 03:04 #212

Marynka11:

The problem is that too many people have red light go on when they hear the name of their country.

It's definitely getting some people's attention. I guess nobody likes to be portrayed in negative lights. Especially if they think they were already presented unfavorably.

To go bit off topic:
I remember some years ago Madonna started taking kabala classes but said that she's not going to switch to Judaism. One commentary in the press said "Jewish people are so relieved". I guess nobody likes nuts in their ranks.

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Mar 30, 11, 03:26 #213
Bzibzioh: I remember some years ago Madonna started taking kabala classes but said that she's not going to switch to Judaism. One commentary in the press said "Jewish people are so relieved". I guess nobody likes nuts in their ranks. I remember vaguely she got some tattoo in Hebrew that had some spelling mistakes in it or something like that.

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Mar 30, 11, 03:41 #214

Bratwurst Boy:

I have problems with that statement of yours MW.

Do you think Poles are perfect? Do you think a real life character has no flaws? Nothing negatives about Poles at all?

And what if you really achieve that...no Pole in TV will ever be shown a tiny bit "negatively".
Do you really think people don't look through that propaganda (because that's what it amounts to)?
Do you really think you are not just then INVITING jokes and contempt because of that behavior?

I don't get you!

I'm not sure what you mean by "people don't look through that propaganda".

But as for, are Poles/Polish Americans perfect? Absolutely not.

If a character of Polish ancestry on TV has negative qualities, then fine. As long as its within reason.

I just don't want to see a Polish character all of a sudden acting like he has subhuman intelligence and then incorporated into the theme of the show, is that he's acting like he has subhuman intelligence BECAUSE of his Polish ancestry. You know what I mean? Like a certain show in Germany. ;)

Like imagery of a Polish guy (we both know of) acting like he has subhuman intelligence, as in - he all of a sudden wants to live like an animal in a barn and act like an animal. All the while making it absolutely known he is POLISH POLISH POLISH POLISH or in the case of this one show, he's from "Polen". LOL

If the Polish American cop in this show has flaws like a Polish American Detective Andy Sipowicz in the old show NYPD Blue, then I guess that's OK.

Those negative qualities are at least understandable.

Detective Andy Sipowicz in NYPD Blue had problems with alcohol, had anger problems, problems with some disfunctional people in his Polish American family, he wasn't the best looking guy, etc. Those negative qualities, although obviously bad, at least have some plausibility. Not exactly things that make his Polish character look good. But at least they are within reason.

Polish American Detective Andy Sipowicz - NYPD Blue

Andy Sipowicz
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106079/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUjMs1JrhJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6nOBU4ipg

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Mar 30, 11, 03:46 #215
MediaWatch: Andy Sipowicz Mine main problem with detective Sipowicz is that he is so ugly. He is giving a bad name to all Polish men! ;)

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Mar 30, 11, 03:59 #216

Marynka11:

Mine main problem with detective Sipowicz is that he is so ugly. He is giving a bad name to all Polish men!

;)

LOL

Well there you go!

I thought overall the show portrayed him OK as a Polish American. But like I say, he had his fair share of negative qualities including his looks....he wasn't exactly the best looking guy LOL

So nobody can say..... I MediaWatch (and other Polish Americans).... will only accept Polish characters on TV if they only have good qualities.

Detective Andy Sipowicz had his fair share of bad qualities....but I still liked him overall. But that's just my opinion.

At least with the new Police show "Chicago Code", the Polish American detective is better looking

Chicago Code

Meet Jarek Wysocki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APnGpklsYRs&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplb-VK1cbI

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Mar 30, 11, 04:04 #217
Marynka11: Mine main problem with detective Sipowicz is that he is so ugly. He is giving a bad name to all Polish men! That's just him. What about Detective Jarek Wysocki from Chicago Code? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplb-VK1cbI Jared Padalecki Supernatural Paul Wesley (Paul Thomas Wasilewski)

MediaWatchThreads: 31 Posts: 1,305 Joined: Aug 30, 08 ♂	Mar 30, 11, 04:13 #218
Penn, Jared Padelecki is a cool guy. Here he is on the Bonnie Hunt show. Both he and Bonnie are half Polish and proud of it. She introduces him as a "nice Polish boy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch-9c4SV3QU

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Mar 30, 11, 04:17 #219
MediaWatch: Both he and Bonnie are half Polish and proud of it. She introduces him as a "nice Polish boy" I saw that clip. Funny how Detective Wysocki's name is pronounced, instead of Visotzki it's Wisaki like Japanese.

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Edited by: shewolf Mar 30, 11, 07:25 #220

isthatu2:

Oh, I do remember these from my teens, a classic american cop show...........honest ;)

The Unpronounceables is hilarious. I had never seen that before.

PennBoy:

Jared Padalecki Supernatural

PennBoy:

Paul Wesley (Paul Thomas Wasilewski)

Do they actually play Polish American characters? I thought Paul Wesley plays a hispanic character. It's always like that. The Polish characters are portrayed by non-Polish actors, like probably Wysocki in The Chicago Code.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Mar 30, 11, 15:26 #221
shewolf: It's always like that. The Polish characters are portrayed by non-Polish actors, like probably Wysocki in The Chicago Code. Or like Marika Dominczyk playing Bernadette in the 40 year old virgin.

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Mar 30, 11, 16:42 #222

Marynka11:

Mine main problem with detective Sipowicz is that he is so ugly. He is giving a bad name to all Polish men!

I loved this guy ,right untill he belted that prisoner across the face.....mind,still better than the ginger one :)

shewolf:

The Unpronounceables is hilarious. I had never seen that before.

Glad you liked it,its from an old 90s programe called The Fast Show....a bit of a cult, Jonny Depp asked to be in it once :)

shewolf:

Wysocki

Ok,maybe this is a different guy,buy, "sock" in Reaper,he's cool,part from the chasing his step sister bit ;)

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Mar 30, 11, 20:11 #223
Sandman: SandmanThre Just a reminder: Polish Proverbs (American style?)

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1,835 Joined: Dec 23, 06 ♀	Edited by: shewolf May 1, 11, 06:00 #224
Has anyone mentioned the movie V.I. Warshawski with Kathleen Turner? The lead character is part Polish. The movie was supposedly made from a series of books about the same character.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂	May 1, 11, 08:43 #225
isthatu2: shewolf: The Unpronounceables is hilarious. I had never seen that before. Glad you liked it,its from an old 90s programe called The Fast Show....a bit of a cult, Jonny Depp asked to be in it once :) A propos american cop shows, here is a piece from my favourite British stand-up comedian.

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