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FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2643 Joined: Jun 14, 06 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 11:52 #41
Yeah, that southern home cookin will put on the pounds :)

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 11:52 #42
Quoting: plk123 native: #2.. mexicans and other latinos come here regardless regardless of NAU.. we build fences and they find a way anyway.. why do you think that is? Many of them die on the way - it's all desert there. If you took the hazards out of the 5+ day journey across the desert and removed any concern (and the guns aimed at the Mexican side of the border) about who was crossing that border, the influx would be staggering!

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 11:52 #43
Quoting: NativeAmerican NAFTA is not the same as the NAU will be. BELIEVE ME! And as I said, Clinton wasn't perfect. right but it was the first step towards it.

RanjThreads: 29 Posts: 1329 Joined: Sep 29, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 11:52 #44
Quoting: NativeAmerican I would NEVER vote for Gore - his wife was behind a HUGE censorship campaign in the late 1980's and early 1990's and as an artist I am animately against censorship in any way. Completely agree with you! Quoting: NativeAmerican And Kerry was an unlikeable moron. That election was best described by Matt Stone and Trey Parker in the South Park episode Giant Douche and Terd Sandwich (or something like that.) Now that is funny!!!!:) I'll have to see if I can find that episode. I stand corrected. My apologies:)

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 11:53 #45
Quoting: NativeAmerican Many of them die on the way - it's all desert there. If you took the hazards out of the 5+ day journey across the desert and removed any concern about who was crossing that border, the influx would be staggering! but maybe they'd also go home more often?

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1161 Joined: Dec 23, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 11:56 #46
Quoting: NativeAmerican Many of them die on the way - it's all desert there. but many also pay people to drive them across the desert. They don't all walk.

RanjThreads: 29 Posts: 1329 Joined: Sep 29, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 11:57 #47
Quoting: shewolf It's probably the media over there that exaggerates it. I think the media over there (Poland) and Europe in general exaggerates about the USA. I will say the people I saw in Poland were definitely more fit as a whole as opposed to the US, and being one who works in the medical field, I can tell you that obesity is a nationwide epidemic......seems though that even BW was surprised at the number of thin people he saw here.....as I said, I guess he assumed everyone was going to be at least 50 lbs overweight with a Big Mac in one hand and an apple turnover in the other. :)

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 11:57 #48
Quoting: Ranj Completely agree with you! i'd rather have dealt with gore then the devil in there now. i'd rather see a little censorship then spying, suspension of habeas corpus, wars, misery, messed up economy, high gas prices.. etc.. etc.. etc..

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 11:57 #49
Quoting: Ranj Now that is funny!!!!:) I'll have to see if I can find that episode. stansdad.com/season8/episode8/ enjoy!

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1161 Joined: Dec 23, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 11:58 #50
Quoting: Ranj as I said, I guess he assumed everyone was going to be at least 50 lbs overweight with a Big Mac in one hand and an apple turnover in the other. :) that is so hilarious!

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 11:59 #51
Quoting: Ranj everyone was going to be at least 50 lbs overweight with a Big Mac in one hand and an apple turnover in the other. :) where the heck do you hang out?.. i bet i could count a hundred in 5 min. :D

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 12:00 #52
Quoting: plk123 i'd rather have dealt with gore then the devil in there now. i'd rather see a little censorship then spying, suspension of habeas corpus, wars, misery, messed up economy, high gas prices.. etc.. etc.. etc.. Then I hope that that's how you voted. Furthermore, I hope you savored the liberty of the vote you cast. We may no longer have it soon enough.

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1161 Joined: Dec 23, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 12:01 #53
Quoting: plk123 where the heck do you hang out?.. i bet i could count a hundred in 5 min. :D seriously? Where do you hang out?

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 12:03 #54
Quoting: shewolf but many also pay people to drive them across the desert. They don't all walk. Most of them don't have the money for the driver service (I'm not kidding, it costs A LOT MORE). If you don't know, people pay for guides across the border. Oftentimes, people are told that it's a 2 day trip through the desert and they only bring a gallon (4.5 ltrs.) of water each. They often die of dehydration.

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 12:05 #55
Quoting: shewolf seriously? Where do you hang out? in one of the fatter cities. lol

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 12:07 #56
1 gal = 3.78 L

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1161 Joined: Dec 23, 06 Gender: Female	Edited by: shewolf Sep 26, 07, 12:16 #57
Quoting: NativeAmerican Most of them don't have the money for the driver service (I'm not kidding, it costs A LOT MORE). If you don't know, people pay for guides across the border. Oftentimes, people are told that it's a 2 day trip through the desert and they only bring a gallon (4.5 ltrs.) of water each. They often die of dehydration. And even if they do have the thousands of dollars for a driver, sometimes they get left in the desert to die, locked inside the back of a truck. I always hear about that on the news. But obviously there is something about the US that people are willing to risk dying for.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2448 Joined: Sep 1, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 12:35 #58
As to America, your power should be moral power, of giving people freedom, after it you can take profit (McDonald invasion ;) ). But Iraq is wrong we are there with you but I think it is wrong war. That things shouldnt happen: What is interesting Iraqs citizens are happy there is no Saddam now, but the way you done it ... Now you will have to pay a lot to repire your reputation.

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 12:35 #59
Quoting: plk123 1 gal = 3.78 L My bad.

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 12:38 #60
Quoting: Lukasz As to America, your power should be moral power But whose morals? Who is to say what freedom is? Do you see why we can't?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2448 Joined: Sep 1, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Lukasz Sep 26, 07, 12:44 #61
All I think is that it was possible to win this war ... Do you know that Iraq citizens calls our soldier when sb is planing to atack our base, just because we trate them as equal human, for example they can come to our base and ask our doctor for advice, normal human things. At the beggining they had positve atittude towards you ...

RanjThreads: 29 Posts: 1329 Joined: Sep 29, 06 Gender: Female	Sep 26, 07, 12:45 #62
Quoting: plk123 where the heck do you hang out?.. To be fair, I work in a building that has a state of the art exercise facility, so I see fit people everyday.....but the place I was talking about was Broad Ripple......don't get me wrong, like you said, we live in a fatty state (#10 fattest out of the 50 states), and there is definitely a nationwide epidemic with obesity. Did we see obese people.....of course we did, but what is projected in Europe about the physical condition of Americans and what is actual reality are two different things.

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 12:57 #63
The war on terror is a war that can never be won. It is simply a way to generate more money for 1. The Federal Reserve Bank (which is not owned or operated by the US - it is a private bank) 2. For those who own stocks in certain kinds of companies (oil, war machinery, etc.) and to keep the American people afraid enough to let the government take away our rights (The Patriot Act). The Iraqi people are innocent bystanders in this war. We put Saddam in power and we needed someone to blame for 9/11 (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.) and since Saddam pissed the US off with the war in Kuwait, he got to be the scapegoat. Maybe they are happier without him, but he is one of America's many monsters. They should hate the US government - they should want to see everyone in power here dead for the war they rage against them; I just hope they realize that the government here has not represented the will of the people for quite some time (kinda like Poland joining the EU when the vast majority of the people voted against it) and that as people, we aren't so different. I don't know, it sickens me that this war ever started and it continues to make my stomach turn to think of how many innocent people are being killed (as I type this a military helicopter flies over me) in the name of an faceless enemy that can never be destroyed - especially when we keep fueling this enemy! ∞

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2448 Joined: Sep 1, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:02 #64
Quoting: NativeAmerican But whose morals? Who is to say what freedom is? Do you see why we can't? The moral power, to give the people the right to chose their future, and when I watch TV and see your discussion about cost of the war, or about atacks on petrol instalation there ... ehhh

koolaidThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Sep 26, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: koolaid Sep 26, 07, 13:05 #65
Quoting: NativeAmerican (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.) You are even more retarded than i thought, i bet your 'overwhelming evidence' is Loose Change or any other YouTube conspiracy crap, isn't it?

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:06 #66
Quoting: Lukasz What is interesting Iraqs citizens are happy there is no Saddam now, but the way you done it ... i'm not so sure.. some are but many aren't.. we cut the monster's head off but it has many heads now.

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:07 #67
Quoting: Lukasz As to America, your power should be moral power that's what got us into the troubles we face now. your morals are most likely not even close to mine.

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:10 #68
Quoting: NativeAmerican The Iraqi people are innocent bystanders in this war. We put Saddam in power and we needed someone to blame for 9/11 (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.) send them to me.. sadam had absolutely 0 to do with 9-11. i am not really all that sure what OBL did either. we have really no reason to be in IRQ except what you said.

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 13:14 #69
Quoting: koolaid You are even more retarded than i thought, i bet your 'overwhelming evidence' is Loose Change or any other YouTube conspiracy crap, isn't it? No dear, there are REALLY simple things that happened (there are actual records of) that were done like the bomb-sniffing dogs being called off duty for the two weeks before 9/11 and other things like a plane disintegrating upon impact but people being identified by fingerprints and dental records - I mean, what kind of fire disintegrates a plane but leave fingers and teeth intact?! So on and so forth. I actually hate conspiracy theorists but if you look at the facts - **** the media - look at the FACTS, it's hard not to believe that Uncle Sam wasn't behind it. And before you attempt to insult my intelligence again, I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2448 Joined: Sep 1, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Lukasz Sep 26, 07, 13:15 #70
Ok ... you should know we are one of the last countries beliving on you ... so just dont F*** it.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2448 Joined: Sep 1, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:20 #71
and remind some grate americans from the past. and think what you should do.

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 13:20 #72
Lukasz, give up now. There's no sense in believing in this administration. Maybe the next one will be better. And why do you think Regan was so great? Kennedy, King - fantastic Americans, but Regan? What did he do that was so 'great'?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2643 Joined: Jun 14, 06 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:39 #73
Should we change the topic title to "US politics and how it sucks"?

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:44 #74
Quoting: NativeAmerican but Regan? What did he do that was so 'great'? he put it to the commies camrad. the wall falling down is definitely due to his policies.

NativeAmerican	Sep 26, 07, 13:49 #75
I thought the wall falling had more to due with the fact that Poland decided to give up communism and other countries followed one by one. Don't get me wrong, I was very young when it happened and never cared to learn much about how communism ended. All I remember of it are the pictures on TV of people dancing around, hugging each other and my mother crying and explaining to me that 'This wall kept families apart and now they can be together again. It's a wonderful thing."

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4307 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 13:54 #76
in a way you are tright but it would have never happened if not for the pressure put on the rusians by the americans. bascially USA bankrupted CCCP and they weren't able to butt in anymore.

LightbulbThreads: 1 Posts: 45 Joined: Aug 30, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 26, 07, 23:20 #77
Quoting: NativeAmerican Yes, we contribute racists who say things like "The only thing a Negro can do for me is shine my shoes" - Elvis Presley Elvis never said that. Here you go: snopes.com/music/artists/presley1.asp Educate yourself. You might actually enjoy it. ;)

NativeAmerican	Sep 27, 07, 14:40 #78
Lightbulb, I hate to break this to you but Elvis WAS a racist jerk. My father (who is now 68) was a blues musician from Mississippi and had more than a few run-ins with him. If you like, I can ask him to tell me ALL those stories again, write them ALL down and email them to you.

osiolThreads: 71 Posts: 5029 Joined: Jul 25, 07 Gender: Male	Sep 27, 07, 14:57 #79
Quoting: NativeAmerican Elvis I always thought that the young Elvis was quite a simple man with a talent. He could sing in the style of the black singers he heard when he was growing up. I didn't think he was taking the p!ss - he loved music. Imitation as a form of flattery, or not?

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 27, 07, 21:39 #80
He bought songs from "neg**" and said they were his own - ne never gave them credit. This is why he seemed to imitate. He'd buy black peoples songs for $10.00 and make millions on them. Now this doesn't mean that he wasn't a nice, quiet young man that could sing... he probably was; but no matter what, he was a product of The South. A white man from Mississippi in those days was almost always a racist. You can Google KKK and see what the membership numbers were in 1950. You'll see, MANY people from all over America (but the majority were Southerners) belong to the organization that terrorized, beat and lynched blacks. Look up the story of a young man named Emmet Till if you want to know what people did to blacks in those days. His (horrific) murder was one of three sparks of the American Civil Rights Movement. A few years after Emmet's murder, my father worked for one of the murders. We worked on the mans farm until he found out that he was one of THEM. The guy changed his name and moved after the trial (I forget which one of them he worked for, sorry).

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