what do Polish people think of the USA

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LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Edited by: Lukasz Sep 26, 07, 12:44 #61
All I think is that it was possible to win this war ... Do you know that Iraq citizens calls our soldier when sb is planing to atack our base, just because we trate them as equal human, for example they can come to our base and ask our doctor for advice, normal human things. At the beggining they had positve atittude towards you ...

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Sep 26, 07, 12:45 #62

Quoting: plk123

where the heck do you hang out?..

To be fair, I work in a building that has a state of the art exercise facility, so I see fit people everyday.....but the place I was talking about was Broad Ripple......don't get me wrong, like you said, we live in a fatty state (#10 fattest out of the 50 states), and there is definitely a nationwide epidemic with obesity. Did we see obese people.....of course we did, but what is projected in Europe about the physical condition of Americans and what is actual reality are two different things.

NativeAmerican

Sep 26, 07, 12:57 #63

The war on terror is a war that can never be won. It is simply a way to generate more money for 1. The Federal Reserve Bank (which is not owned or operated by the US - it is a private bank) 2. For those who own stocks in certain kinds of companies (oil, war machinery, etc.) and to keep the American people afraid enough to let the government take away our rights (The Patriot Act).

The Iraqi people are innocent bystanders in this war. We put Saddam in power and we needed someone to blame for 9/11 (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.) and since Saddam pissed the US off with the war in Kuwait, he got to be the scapegoat.

Maybe they are happier without him, but he is one of America's many monsters. They should hate the US government - they should want to see everyone in power here dead for the war they rage against them; I just hope they realize that the government here has not represented the will of the people for quite some time (kinda like Poland joining the EU when the vast majority of the people voted against it) and that as people, we aren't so different.

I don't know, it sickens me that this war ever started and it continues to make my stomach turn to think of how many innocent people are being killed (as I type this a military helicopter flies over me) in the name of an faceless enemy that can never be destroyed - especially when we keep fueling this enemy!

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LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:02 #64
Quoting: NativeAmerican But whose morals? Who is to say what freedom is? Do you see why we can't? The moral power, to give the people the right to chose their future, and when I watch TV and see your discussion about cost of the war, or about atacks on petrol instalation there ... ehhh

koolaidThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Sep 26, 07 ♂	Edited by: koolaid Sep 26, 07, 13:05 #65
Quoting: NativeAmerican (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.) You are even more retarded than i thought, i bet your 'overwhelming evidence' is Loose Change or any other YouTube conspiracy crap, isn't it?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:06 #66
Quoting: Lukasz What is interesting Iraqs citizens are happy there is no Saddam now, but the way you done it ... i'm not so sure.. some are but many aren't.. we cut the monster's head off but it has many heads now.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:07 #67
Quoting: Lukasz As to America, your power should be moral power that's what got us into the troubles we face now. your morals are most likely not even close to mine.

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Sep 26, 07, 13:10 #68

Quoting: NativeAmerican

The Iraqi people are innocent bystanders in this war. We put Saddam in power and we needed someone to blame for 9/11 (which there is overwhelming evidence that it was done by the US government and if you want more info, just ask; I'll send you some links.)

send them to me.. sadam had absolutely 0 to do with 9-11. i am not really all that sure what OBL did either. we have really no reason to be in IRQ except what you said.

NativeAmerican

Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 13:14 #69

Quoting: koolaid

You are even more retarded than i thought, i bet your 'overwhelming evidence' is Loose Change or any other YouTube conspiracy crap, isn't it?

No dear, there are REALLY simple things that happened (there are actual records of) that were done like the bomb-sniffing dogs being called off duty for the two weeks before 9/11 and other things like a plane disintegrating upon impact but people being identified by fingerprints and dental records - I mean, what kind of fire disintegrates a plane but leave fingers and teeth intact?!

So on and so forth.

I actually hate conspiracy theorists but if you look at the facts - **** the media - look at the FACTS, it's hard not to believe that Uncle Sam wasn't behind it.

And before you attempt to insult my intelligence again, I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Edited by: Lukasz Sep 26, 07, 13:15 #70
Ok ... you should know we are one of the last countries beliving on you ... so just dont F*** it.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:20 #71
and remind some grate americans from the past. and think what you should do.

NativeAmerican	Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 26, 07, 13:20 #72
Lukasz, give up now. There's no sense in believing in this administration. Maybe the next one will be better. And why do you think Regan was so great? Kennedy, King - fantastic Americans, but Regan? What did he do that was so 'great'?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:39 #73
Should we change the topic title to "US politics and how it sucks"?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:44 #74
Quoting: NativeAmerican but Regan? What did he do that was so 'great'? he put it to the commies camrad. the wall falling down is definitely due to his policies.

NativeAmerican

Sep 26, 07, 13:49 #75

I thought the wall falling had more to due with the fact that Poland decided to give up communism and other countries followed one by one. Don't get me wrong, I was very young when it happened and never cared to learn much about how communism ended.

All I remember of it are the pictures on TV of people dancing around, hugging each other and my mother crying and explaining to me that 'This wall kept families apart and now they can be together again. It's a wonderful thing."

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 13:54 #76
in a way you are tright but it would have never happened if not for the pressure put on the rusians by the americans. bascially USA bankrupted CCCP and they weren't able to butt in anymore.

LightbulbThreads: 1 Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 30, 07 ♂	Sep 26, 07, 23:20 #77
Quoting: NativeAmerican Yes, we contribute racists who say things like "The only thing a Negro can do for me is shine my shoes" - Elvis Presley Elvis never said that. Here you go: snopes.com/music/artists/presley1.asp Educate yourself. You might actually enjoy it. ;)

NativeAmerican	Sep 27, 07, 14:40 #78
Lightbulb, I hate to break this to you but Elvis WAS a racist jerk. My father (who is now 68) was a blues musician from Mississippi and had more than a few run-ins with him. If you like, I can ask him to tell me ALL those stories again, write them ALL down and email them to you.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Sep 27, 07, 14:57 #79
Quoting: NativeAmerican Elvis I always thought that the young Elvis was quite a simple man with a talent. He could sing in the style of the black singers he heard when he was growing up. I didn't think he was taking the p!ss - he loved music. Imitation as a form of flattery, or not?

NativeAmerican

Edited by: NativeAmerican Sep 27, 07, 21:39 #80

He bought songs from "neg***" and said they were his own - ne never gave them credit. This is why he seemed to imitate. He'd buy black peoples songs for $10.00 and make millions on them.

Now this doesn't mean that he wasn't a nice, quiet young man that could sing... he probably was; but no matter what, he was a product of The South. A white man from Mississippi in those days was almost always a racist.

You can Google KKK and see what the membership numbers were in 1950. You'll see, MANY people from all over America (but the majority were Southerners) belong to the organization that terrorized, beat and lynched blacks.

Look up the story of a young man named Emmet Till if you want to know what people did to blacks in those days. His (horrific) murder was one of three sparks of the American Civil Rights Movement.

* A few years after Emmet's murder, my father worked for one of the murders. We worked on the mans farm until he found out that he was one of THEM. The guy changed his name and moved after the trial (I forget which one of them he worked for, sorry).

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Sep 27, 07, 22:47 #81

Quoting: NativeAmerican

Lightbulb, I hate to break this to you but Elvis WAS a racist jerk. My father (who is now 68) was a blues musician from Mississippi and had more than a few run-ins with him.

If you like, I can ask him to tell me ALL those stories again, write them ALL down and email them to you.

Anyone can claim anything they want on the internet, and that's fine. But I'll stick to verified sources, which tend to disagree. Thanks just the same, though.

I'm not a fan of Elvis's music, for the record, so I'm not interested in defending him in any case, and I could care less what anyone thinks of him. I simply don't like to see misinformation circulating - especially misinformation that can be disproved with no effort whatsoever (say, 3 seconds of your time and a google search). If you're willing to believe the worst about someone, you should be willing to perform due diligence - I try to live by that.

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Sep 27, 07, 23:44 #82
Quoting: Lightbulb Anyone can claim anything they want on the internet, and that's fine. But I'll stick to verified sources, which tend to disagree. Thanks just the same, though. yes, i agree with this. Elvis might have been or might not have been. really irelevent to the topic of what Polish people think of the usa.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 00:00 #83
Quoting: Patrycja19 Elvis might have been or might not have been. really irelevent to the topic of what Polish people think of the usa. kinda as he is saying that people in the US tend to be rather racist. and i surely have to agree.

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 00:45 #84
Quoting: NativeAmerican blues musician from Mississippi The Blues had a baby and they named him Rock and Roll... Muddy Waters Its where it all came from man:)

1st generation

Sep 28, 07, 16:03 #85

Lukasz, why don't you post a video of the Islamo-fascists cutting Americans throat. I love my country because it is a very Christian one compared to most of Western Europe.
I like Bush except for the debacle with immigration. The majority of Americans are tired of illegals taking everything.

He kicks butt when it comes to terrorists. I support my military and the brave Polish military who fought in Iraq. I think France is leaning our way. Don't listen to the liberal media, most Americans want to fight the war on terror.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 16:16 #86
sorry dude.. shrub got you snowballed and you are in the minority.. war on terror is a losing proposition. it will never be won. why are we in IRQ?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06 ♂	Edited by: FISZ Sep 28, 07, 16:41 #87
Quoting: 1st generation He kicks butt when it comes to terrorists. I hope you aren't talking about Bush. We begin a hunt for OBL and can't find him so we attack Iraq? Quoting: plk123 why are we in IRQ? To display GWB's terrorist butt kicking :) Stalemate....

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Edited by: Puzzler Sep 28, 07, 17:55 #88
re: grate americans - All of them?! As far as I'm concerned, only the last one has a grating effect on me. :)

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 151 Joined: Jun 20, 07 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 22:24 #89
Quoting: Puzzler re: grate americans - All of them?! As far as I'm concerned, only the last one has a grating effect on me. :) Actually puzzler if it wasnt for Ronald Reagan and Pope John PaulII Poland would still be under Soviet Control and the Berlin Wall would still be up.

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Sep 28, 07, 22:44 #90
Quoting: Kaczor Duck if it wasnt for Ronald Reagan ...there would be no Amnesty... I would not get a legal status, and I would have to marry some American dude in the 80's to get a green card, instead of marrying for love (which did not do me any good either). LOL. President Reagan is my hero anyway!

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