what do Polish people think of the USA

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 22:53 #91
Quoting: FISZ Stalemate.... are you telling me we're not winning? ;) :D

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 151 Joined: Jun 20, 07 ♂	Sep 28, 07, 22:54 #92
Quoting: Eurola President Reagan is my hero anyway! Halleluja!!

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Sep 28, 07, 23:14 #93
He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners.

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Sep 28, 07, 23:21 #94
Quoting: plk123 kinda as he is saying that people in the US tend to be rather racist. and i surely have to agree. not any different then anywhere else in the world as it exists in every country that holds a seperate nationality.

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Sep 29, 07, 08:51 #95

Quoting: krysia

He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners.

Krysia, wow, that airs it all out. I will have to say I agree, We had Binladen several times, but the way Liberals think that the world is all uner the same rules, they felt they did not have a legal precident to arrest him, What BS##, he bombed the Kole, his group was responsible for many US deaths before 9/11, unlike what a liberal may think, people who are not US citizens do not have the same rights afforded to by our constitution. I am so sick of this "can't we get along crap" They MURDERED our PEOPLE, WAKE UP AMERICA, they hate us and want you DEAD!!

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 11:14 #96
Quoting: krysia Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots and so his his wife..dont vote for Hillary:)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 11:19 #97
theres been a Bush or Clinton in the white house for the last 25 years sinse georgie 1 with Regan its time for a fresh face

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 11:35 #98
I vote for President Sledź!!!!!!

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 11:38 #99
Sledz for President! I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly!

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 11:43 #100
Quoting: Eurola I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly! lol!!!! Free piwo to everybody. It'll be on the (white) house!

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 11:57 #101
Quoting: sledz its time for a fresh face Yes, it time for a fresh face and i hope we get one. There are a couple of candidates I would not mind to see in the White House, but it's too early to say. I think the next year will be interesting. I'm setting aside some old towels, I'll need them to wipe off the mud dripping off my TV screen.

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 151 Joined: Jun 20, 07 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 16:19 #102
Sledz Sledz hes our man if he cant do it no body can!!! Yes forget ClintonCare we want Sledz Piwo!!!!! PIWO PIWO PIWO!! Free PIWO!!

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 17:44 #103
That will be my platform a piwo in every house :) Quoting: Eurola I'm sure the visa issue would be solved quickly! Yes indeed, amnesty for kobiety

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 151 Joined: Jun 20, 07 ♂	Sep 29, 07, 17:54 #104
Quoting: sledz That will be my platform a piwo in every house :) you got my vote!!!

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 23:19 #105
Quoting: sledz That will be my platform a piwo in every house :) And if you can't afford it, you get a goverment grant.

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Sep 29, 07, 23:59 #106
And if one grant is not enough, then you get two, or three, or four, or a few grants to meet your needs and wants... :) Yeah.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: krysia Sep 30, 07, 00:02 #107
Right, as long as there's piwo in every citizen's house. Glad I ain't running for president. I would make sure everyone has a dog in their home and if you're allergic, you get the mexican hairless.

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Oct 2, 07, 11:03 #108

Quoting: plk123

what do you think of America?

Its a nation started by opportunisitc bankers who took a good (bad) example from other Europeans and smote the natives into submission (American Indians). As a liberal free-market domain it is run by banks and big business, and the will of the people is either disregarded or manipulated so that they themselves don't know what they want (example: healthcare). The women are fat and the men are clueless and arrogant and they love telling dumb-Polak jokes even though most of them couldn't find Poland on the map. (just generalising). Also, interestingly Americans are convinced that they are the only free"democracy" on the face of the Earth and have a duty to spread this good word to the rest of the poor ignorant masses around the globe. But other than that, it's a swell place, great people, but I wouldn't really want to live there.

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Oct 2, 07, 11:10 #109

Quoting: 1st generation

most Americans want to fight the war on terror

Terror is a tactic not an enemy, and that's not liberal propaganda - it's simple logic, which I am a great fan of. Fighthing a war on terror is like fighting a war against bad haircuts. It's nothing more than an excuse to extend America's power and make a lot of money in the process. A loooooot of money. That's great that some Poles consider themselves "patriots" because Polish troop presence in Iraq gives them a boner. But if you don't see the parallels between the US invasion of Iraq and Hitler's invasion of Poland, then go open a history book (you don't even have to read between the lines...)

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Oct 2, 07, 11:44 #110

OMG... the reason Hitler invaded other countries was "Lebensraum" or "living space" in order to expand the German population abroad. At least that made sense in a twisted way. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion. WMD's ???
Nope!!! Terror training camps??? Nope!!! A way to make Halliburton Corp. rich beyond Cheney's wildest dreams??? ----- A personal vendetta against Saddam by Bush??? (after all he DID say he would not rest until Bush the 1st was dead)
Nobody here wants to move to Iraq.... this is NOT an expansionist campaign, just a really stupid war waged for greed and revenge.
Power and money- you are correct.
Parallel to Hitler--- No way...this is wayyy worse!!!
PS Bush is definitely gunna go to hell and Hitler is saving him a seat.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 07, 12:04 #111
Quoting: krysia He was one of the best presidents. Clinton was one of the worst liberal democrat idiots who screwed this country up and left it up to Bush in his next election to get it back on it's feet, after Clinton allowed the terrorists to enter the US by opening up the borders to foreigners. wow.. do you like snowballs?

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Edited by: plk123 Oct 2, 07, 12:06 #112

Quoting: Kaczor Duck

people who are not US citizens do not have the same rights afforded to by our constitution.

technically you may be right but if you don't then you're stooping to their level.. and that's not what america is all about.

and please.. they? who are they? they all don't want us dead.. you bought the shrubco bs hook, line and sinker too. please open your eyes and mind. you're giving america a bad name.

shrub is an idiot and one ofthe worst things to have happened to this great nation. it's going to take decades to fix all of this mess.

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Oct 2, 07, 12:12 #113

Quoting: Uncle Sam

OMG... the reason Hitler invaded other countries was "Lebensraum" or "living space" in order to expand the German population abroad. At least that made sense in a twisted way. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion. WMD's ???
Nope!!! Terror training camps??? Nope!!! A way to make Halliburton Corp. rich beyond Cheney's wildest dreams??? ----- A personal vendetta against Saddam by Bush??? (after all he DID say he would not rest until Bush the 1st was dead)
Nobody here wants to move to Iraq.... this is NOT an expansionist campaign, just a really stupid war waged for greed and revenge.
Power and money- you are correct.
Parallel to Hitler--- No way...this is wayyy worse!!!
PS Bush is definitely gunna go to hell and Hitler is saving him a seat.

nope.. it's the great menaceand it's very much the same in both cases.. shrub = hitler in more ways then one.

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Oct 2, 07, 16:52 #114

Quoting: Uncle Sam

Bush, on the other hand, doesn't even have a reason for the Iraq invasion.

He did have a reason. One of them was oil. If you don't believe me, even Alan Greenspan recently came out of the closet and said it publicly. Iraq is a huge oil producer and the first thing the US did after it invaded was secure the Iraqi oil ministry, while Baghdad sank into lawlessness. The oil ministry was immediately privatized and sold off in chunks to BP, Exxon-Mobil, etc. The other reason, of course, is that there are billions if not trillions to be made in reconstructing in rebuilding a country that you have just spent months fcuking up.

Now, if you want some coffee-sipping reading, here are the parallels hinted at:

Before Hitler invaded Poland, he spent weeks moaning in public to the Gemran people about how terrible the Poles and the Polish govt. were, and how terribly the German minority in Poland was being treated (Then on the eve of the invasion, he staged a fake Polish army attack in Gliwice as a pretext for invasion, but I'm sure you knew that already). Sound familiar?

Hitler's officer corps gave their various military operations lofty names such as "Operation Free Europe" "Operation Swift Justice" and other absurdities. Sound familiar?

Polish resistance fighters were refered to as "terrorists" in the German press. Sound familiar?

Most of Hitler's sidekicks and generals had business interests in the military-industrial complex (such as Krupps, IG FARBEN, etc) and they directly profitted by invading countries and then rebuilding them. Cheney, Bush, Rummy, Wolfowitz and company all have stakes in companies that are VERY active in Iraq. Sound familiar?

The parallels go on and on. Hitler, like Bush, had dilusions of grandeur and both men were convinced that they are not only fighting to better their countries, but to better the world. Of course if you are a fan of Reagan or Bush, it doesn't make you a bad person, nor does it make you ignorant or stupid. In a free country you can support whoever you like. In Hitler's Germany, lots of academics, scholars, business leaders and other notables were convinced he was a lovable genius until the Red Army was at their doorsteps. Another future parallel? The dollar is now worth less than the Canadian Loonie and China is America's main creditor. I would worry...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 07, 20:33 #115
you forgot: oilempire.us/graphics/reichstag911.jpg

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Oct 2, 07, 20:41 #116

Quoting: randompal

The parallels go on and on. Hitler, like Bush, had dilusions of grandeur and both men were convinced that they are not only fighting to better their countries, but to better the world. Of course if you are a fan of Reagan or Bush, it doesn't make you a bad person, nor does it make you ignorant or stupid. In a free country you can support whoever you like. In Hitler's Germany, lots of academics, scholars, business leaders and other notables were convinced he was a lovable genius until the Red Army was at their doorsteps. Another future parallel? The dollar is now worth less than the Canadian Loonie and China is America's main creditor. I would worry...

Such BS. Where are the concentration camps? Where are people transported in trains for mass murder? The ones that the US fights are the ones that want the American people dead. If the US did nothing, there would be more incidents like the 9/11.
You cannot compare one to another. It's Stupid.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Edited by: plk123 Oct 2, 07, 20:43 #117
Quoting: krysia Where are the concentration camps? guantamo bay and all the other secret detention zones all over the world. Quoting: krysia Where are people transported in trains for mass murder? abu ghraib he didn't say bush is hitler 100% but he maybe 90% hitler. sieg heil! :D

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀	Oct 2, 07, 20:46 #118
Quoting: plk123 abu ghraib military criminals who deserve to die, not innocent people, women and children. Criminals who are brainwashed with their religion and who if not locked up would join together and bomb everyone all over the world who are not their religion.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 07, 20:49 #119
please look in the mirror.. same could be said about americans. military criminals? is that why they AREN"T POWs? is that why shrubco has to hide behind "illegal combatant" label? what's a legal combatant then? i don't think there is even one of those in IRQ. does shrub talk to jesus? ... ... ...

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Oct 3, 07, 00:06 #120

Quoting: plk123

guantamo bay and all the other secret detention zones all over the world.

With the minor difference that no one dies. Killing millions for their race vs. inconveniencing a few hundred for "accidentally" showing up on a battlefield in Afghanistan... same thing, right? ;)

Anyway, I'll agree that the president is a stubborn guy, and will never admit that the war in Iraq sort of lost its basis once no WMD were found. However, even the UN weapon inspection team's leader Hans Blix told the British media that he expected us to find weapons once we invaded Iraq. Jumping to a false conclusion is embarrasing, but if we can effect some positive change in Iraq, we might still create a net benefit and trade partner there. The Philippines was much more difficult than Iraq, and nowadays it's great over there, and probably the most pro-American country outside our borders. People who call Iraq a bad situation would probably go into fits if they looked at the Philippines c. 1900 when we fought a 10-year fight against the insurgency there, and that was without airpower, against a motivated Muslim enemy. Nothing is lost yet, contrary to what most Democrats want to believe. :)

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