polish people in usa that wanted germany to win

polskisoldier88Threads: 9 Posts: 14 Joined: Feb 21, 10 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 17:07 #1
i have noticed alot of polish people in usa and not only poles but alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war has anyone heard them say that before? lol

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Jun 25, 10, 17:11 #2

polskisoldier88:

people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war

Maybe they're German immigrants?

polskisoldier88:

i have noticed alot of polish people in usa

Define "a lot"

polskisoldier88:

has anyone heard them say that before? lol

Never heard a Pole or anyone else for that matter wish that Germany had won the war, I od however, hear a lot of people say that they wish the war with Germany had never happened..

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 17:16 #3
Anyone ever see an American film about Germany winning the war and an ageing Hitler meeting JFK. Forgot the title as it was quite a few years back.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jun 25, 10, 17:53 #4
polskisoldier88: alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war Did you ask for reasons to back up that statement? and if so what was the reply? Polonius3: Anyone ever see an American film about Germany winning the war and an ageing Hitler meeting JFK. Forgot the title as it was quite a few years back. No, but it sounds interesting.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 17:55 #5
Polonius3: Forgot the title Fatherland. It's based on the book with the same name. >^..^< M-G (haec hactenus)

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 25, 10, 18:12 #6

MareGaea:

Fatherland. It's based on the book with the same name.

Rutger Hauer makes a damn fine Nazi! :)

Amathyst:

....I od however, hear a lot of people say that they wish the war with Germany had never happened..

I as a German get to hear that quite often too...but it's more about moaning in the same sentence about to many muslim/third world immigration to Europe/USA...Europe still being the world #1, GB still having it's empire and so on.

I then try to tell them that while it's true but then it wouldn't had been Hitler...he just couldn't help himself. He busted it fair and square! :/

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09 ♀	Jun 25, 10, 18:23 #7
That would mean that Polish people in America do not get a complete WWII education.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Jun 25, 10, 18:39 #8
polskisoldier88: i have noticed alot of polish people in usa and not only poles but alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war Say that on a saturday night here in Poland, and it's likely that you will get your ass kicked.

polskisoldier88Threads: 9 Posts: 14 Joined: Feb 21, 10 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 19:24 #9
the people that say that to me are at least in there 50s but 1 person that came here from poland said that and when they say that to me i just say even if they won u would still be living in usa so all the blacks and other races are here still u would have to move there

scottie1113Threads: 11 Posts: 873 Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 19:50 #10
vetala: That would mean that Polish people in America do not get a complete WWII education. Neither do Americans. Fortunately some of us know how to read are are interested in history. I think polskisoldier88 is out to lunch on this one.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 19:54 #11
Bratwurst Boy: Rutger Hauer makes a damn fine Nazi! :) He's a blond Dutchman after all :) And I'm a quiet supporter of Germany, but it applies to the World Cup, not wars (unless we would be allies, hehe).

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Edited by: joepilsudski Jun 25, 10, 20:20 #12

polskisoldier88:

i have noticed alot of polish people in usa and not only poles but alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war has anyone heard them say that before? lol

I am Polish-American, 57 years old...I have never heard a Polish-American say that...But, I once read a piece in a regional Polish-American paper, published out of New Jersey, that I thought at the time was 'anti-semitic'...I hadn't studied history then like I have now...I also had a Jewish wife...So, when I read this article I think 'What?!'

But article basically voiced complaints about getting blame for German built camps on Polish soil...It also detailed Jewish behavior in supporting installation of Communists and Soviet Union in Poland, and general Jewish Zionist/Communist agitation, subversion.

Yet, I never hear Pole saying 'Germany should have won'.

As far as some 'right wing revisionist' Americans, they have only a limited knowledge of Poland and Slavs in general...When they glorify Hitler, I tell them he should have stayed an artist...The world would have been saved immense suffering and killing...Remember, something like 12 million Germans died before and after WWII...This a leader?

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Jun 25, 10, 20:50 #13
If i should be honest... Something is wrong with the Polish americans in The US. They run around screaming White power and they hate jews. Don't tell me it's a lie since iv'e been in the US a couple of times, and seen it with my own eyes... Ps. The Brits are still bigger racists then the Poles!!!

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Jun 26, 10, 06:13 #14

polskisoldier88:

i have noticed alot of polish people in usa and not only poles but alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war has anyone heard them say that before? lol

what are you smoking??

scottie1113:

I think polskisoldier88 is out to lunch on this one.

something..

David_18:

They run around screaming White power and they hate jews.

sounds very much like poland to me.. hmm

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: joepilsudski Jun 28, 10, 19:38 #15
David_18: If i should be honest... Something is wrong with the Polish americans in The US. They run around screaming White power and they hate jews. Don't tell me it's a lie since iv'e been in the US a couple of times, and seen it with my own eyes... Ps. The Brits are still bigger racists then the Poles!!! You lie and a pus**, too.

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Edited by: delphiandomine Jun 29, 10, 00:19 #16

David_18:

Something is wrong with the Polish americans in The US. They run around screaming White power and they hate jews.

They don't scream White Power. Their dislike of Jews is simple - their grandparents were likely no fans of Jews and thus they have the same attitude passed down. Really, the US Polonia is just an example of Poland in 1930 - stuck in time.

Remember as well - the lot that emigrated in the 1920's/1930's weren't exactly the elite of Polish society.

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Jun 29, 10, 00:43 #17

David_18:

Something is wrong with the Polish americans in The US. They run around screaming White power and they hate jews.

Don't tell me it's a lie since iv'e been in the US a couple of times, and seen it with my own eyes...

That's true. The Poles that come to the US do change a lot. Now they are in America, a country where they always dreamed to be, they make dollars, their dreams come true and they look down at Poland, at their country, overstay their visas and don't return back to Poland, which not only is illegal and criminal, but also they become greedy and obnoxious not only in the US but towards other countries. If they do succeed on becoming US citizens, they give the US a bad rep by doing the things they do in Poland, such as stealing, not obeying the laws and lying.

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,955 Joined: Aug 6, 09 ♂	Jun 29, 10, 00:48 #18
When I was in Germany there were a lot of Germans wishing for Hitler to win the war but not all

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Jun 29, 10, 00:58 #19
SzwedwPolsce: Say that on a saturday night here in Poland, and it's likely that you will get your ass kicked. talking out of experience? ;p

RubasznyRumcajsThreads: 9 Posts: 283 Joined: Mar 29, 08 ♂	Jun 29, 10, 01:26 #20
SzwedwPolsce: Say that on a saturday night here in Poland, and it's likely that you will get your ass kicked. personally- i reckon germans as much more civilised than russians- and yes, if i would have to choose, I would rather be under german occupation. but, having to choose between them (i.e. Germans and Russians during 2ww) is like choosing between cholera and black death :\|

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Jun 29, 10, 01:26 #21
Marek11111: When I was in Germany there were a lot of Germans wishing for Hitler to win the war but not all I find that very hard to believe. >^..^< M-G (Germans usually are most embarrassed nowadays by Hitler cs)

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Edited by: zetigrek Jun 30, 10, 08:33 #22

tygrys:

If they do succeed on becoming US citizens, they give the US a bad rep by doing the things they do in Poland, such as stealing, not obeying the laws and lying.

Yeah funny that most of police officers in USA are ppl with Polish ancestry. Stop lying Tygrys! Polonia in USA isnt more rasist than white American protestants of English or Scotish ancestry and dont commit more crimes than any other nation in USA.

RubasznyRumcajs:

personally- i reckon germans as much more civilised than russians- and yes, *if* i would *have to* choose, I would rather be under german occupation. but, having to choose between them (i.e. Germans and Russians during 2ww) is like choosing between cholera and black death :|

No its like choosing death or communism. Mind that Nazi Germans wanted to exterminate something like 3/4 (I dont remember the number) of Polish population until 1952. The rest was supposed to be cheap labour force (slaves).

RonWestThreads: 3 Posts: 165 Joined: Jan 6, 10 ♂	Jun 30, 10, 08:39 #23
polskisoldier88: i have noticed alot of polish people in usa and not only poles but alot of people say alot sometimes i wish germany won the war has anyone heard them say that before? lol Never heard that.......what circle of people do you hang with????

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Jun 30, 10, 08:46 #24

MareGaea:

I find that very hard to believe.

M-G recently I've seen a doc about children of SS-mans. Those adult ppl were telling their memoirs about war time and after. And the son of Hans Frank said that when he was young adult he used to hitch-hike a lot. And when he was telling his surname ppl were asking is he is the son of Hans Frank. He would say yes and ppl were overwhelmed and cheerful that they were giving lift to son of Hans Frank. There was only a one case when he was thrown out from the car. Only one exeption!
Well I think its politically incorrect to be openly rasict in Germany (as in other European countries) so they hide their real feelings and opinions.
Who wanted the signature Arbeit machts frei from Auschwitz? Some Swed...

DannyJThreads: 1 Posts: 253 Joined: Oct 30, 09 ♂	Jun 30, 10, 09:00 #25
David_18: The Brits are still bigger racists then the Poles!!! Anything to back that up?

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,955 Joined: Aug 6, 09 ♂	Jun 30, 10, 19:50 #26
When I was in Germany some British units drove through a German farmer field and ruin the crops, so he was complaining to me and I said did you ask them why they did this he said yes and they told me to shoot up we won the war

enderThreads: 13 Posts: 528 Joined: Nov 7, 09 ♂	Jun 30, 10, 20:12 #27
MareGaea: I find that very hard to believe. Why not? some reason to consider: Lower taxes. Better roads. Strict immigration policy. No need the work permit in Germany. Free train ticket to Germany or Austria.

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Jun 30, 10, 20:17 #28

ender:

Lower taxes.
Better roads.
Strict immigration policy.
No need the work permit in Germany.
Free train ticket to Germany or Austria

Here's a few more:

- restriction and proscecution of all political opponents
- violence in the streets
- no freedom of speech
- being considered a rogue state abroad
- killing of disabled (yes also when it's your kid)
- disappearing of ppl overnight
- your kids being abducted and brainwashed by the HJ

and there is more.

>^..^<

M-G (still doesn't believe that the majority in Germany wants Hitler cs back)

enderThreads: 13 Posts: 528 Joined: Nov 7, 09 ♂	Edited by: ender Jun 30, 10, 20:28 #29
MareGaea: restriction and proscecution of all political opponents are you supporting my point of view or what? :-b

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 30, 10, 20:34 #30

Na ja...

MareGaea:

- restriction and proscecution of all political opponents - check

- violence in the streets - No, as nobody would dare. Crimes would be at a general record low

- no freedom of speech - check

- being considered a rogue state abroad - Not in mainland Europe with most countries being now either puppet-regimes of Berlin or allies...only a few would hold out and of course the US and they would need to bite in the sour apple and have some kind of diplomatic relationship with mainland Europe

- killing of disabled (yes also when it's your kid) - mental and inborn illness yes, disabled through accident or being a soldier at the fronts no

- disappearing of ppl overnight - check

- your kids being abducted and brainwashed by the HJ - no point if people don't see it as brainwashing

MareGaea:

M-G (still doesn't believe that the majority in Germany wants Hitler cs back)

No, they don't want to. It would destroy everything....again...

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