Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA?

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Edited by: joepilsudski Jul 15, 11, 21:24 #31

Rebirth:

Compared to Italian, Chinese, Japanese, and many other ethnic restaurants, Polish restaurants are relatively unknown. Why is this?

In Philadelphia, the few Polish restaurants have a rather dreary ambience, restricted hours for business, and a general lack of imagination/enthusiasm...They are too conservative when reaching out to a larger population.

urszula:

In Chicago where there are millions of Poles, the Polish restaurants are thriving

Quite true, as there is generally much more energy in the Polish community there.

jyjkhfa	Jul 15, 11, 21:25 #32
JonnyM: I'm not sure I'd describe Poland as an ethnic group, but what would you describe as uniquely Polish? Carp ;)))

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Jul 15, 11, 21:25 #33

This thread's titular claim is wrong. In my area there may be only two Polish restaurants, but both are thriving. There is the upscale Waszawa in Santa Monica, where I have dined several times, it is very successful and it features stunningly beautiful Polish waitresses. Waszawa is also admirable for providing food for the phone bank volunteers at KPFK, LA's listener supported Pacifica Radio station, during its pledge drives. The other Polish restaurant, whose name escapes me, was featured on the California's Gold television program and it too is very successful and beloved especially amongst Latino diners.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jul 15, 11, 21:27 #34
Des Essientes: only two Polish restaurants, but both are thriving Probably because there are only two. If there were "only two" Italian restaurants, they'd be bursting at the seams.

RebirthThreads: 7 Posts: 161 Joined: Jun 20, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 15, 11, 21:30 #35
JonnyM: If there were "only two" Italian restaurants, they'd be bursting at the seams. Very true. :-) Des Essientes: it is very successful and it features stunningly beautiful Polish waitresses. Oh really? Maybe that makes up for the awful food...

jyjkhfa

Jul 15, 11, 21:33 #36

JonnyM:

Probably because there are only two. If there were "only two" Italian restaurants, they'd be bursting at the seams.

Some nations are famous because of good taste and fancy food, some are not. Polish cuisine is not world-wide known and additionally is not sophisticated enough to gain such renome. However pierogi have some potential as a fast food. I also like zapiekanka (a kind of fast food popular in Poland)... of course with good quality ketchup!

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jul 15, 11, 21:33 #37
Monia: Stop trolling !!!!! I think he's actually got a point this time. Polish restaurant food is not particularly good.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jul 15, 11, 21:34 #38
Rebirth: There are a few Polish restaurants in my state none where I live but I do have to admit that they had few things I liked to eat in Poland. My favorites were bigos and golabki. I also kinda liked their kielbasa wiejska. What I hated to even look at, was flaki, it looked like a vomit to me and it smelt terrible too.

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Jul 15, 11, 21:34 #39

pgtx:

it's not bad... American market just isn't a good place for it... because if you "Americanize" Polish food, it won't be Polish anymore...

Your claim that Americans don't like fancy food is wrong though. It's obvious you're a foreigner trying to generalize us. The only reason Americans might not go to a fancy restaurant is because of the expenses.

all cuisines are "americanized" to fit an american taste and sell... so nothing original here...

No, not all. I dine at many Italian restaurants and the food is not "Americanized."

jyjkhfa	Jul 15, 11, 21:34 #40
JonnyM: Polish restaurant food is not particularly good. What kind of food do you like?

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Des Essientes Jul 15, 11, 21:35 #41
Rebirth: Very true. :-) Those who claim to know the "truth" regarding counterfactual statements are idiots. Rebirth: Oh really? Maybe that makes up for the awful food You have never eaten there so your claim regarding the quality its food is worthless and you are obviously jealous of the beauty and vitality of Poles, and Polish-Americans, hence your asinine attempts denigrate us on this forum.

jyjkhfa	Jul 15, 11, 21:36 #42
guesswho: What I hated to even look at, was flaki, it looked like a vomit to me and it smelt terrible too. Flaki are delicious but they must be prepared well. Don't even try to buy it ready in a shop!!!

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Jul 15, 11, 21:37 #43

Des Essientes:

You have never eaten there so you claim regarding the quality its food is worthless and you are obviously jealous of the beauty and vitality of Poles, and Polish-Americans, hence your asinine attempts denigrate us on this forum.

You have never been to Poland and certainly never eaten here, so your tendency for special pleading about something you have never experienced first-hand is beyond asinine.

Monia	Jul 15, 11, 21:38 #44
JonnyM: Polish restaurant food is not particularly good. You are the troll nb 2 and with Harry , you make 3 of you who need to be banned for good . All your comments are just to stir up hatred nothing else.

jyjkhfa	Jul 15, 11, 21:39 #45
Monia: All your comments are just to stir up hatred nothing else. Just because he doesn't like Polish food? :\|

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Jul 15, 11, 21:40 #46
Monia: You are the troll So are you denying that Polish restaurant food and service is not particularly good? So far you haven't commented on the topic of the thread - all you can do is troll.

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Jul 15, 11, 21:43 #47
Monia: All your comments are just to stir up hatred nothing else. Relax Monia. Not everyone has to like Polish food.

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jul 15, 11, 21:44 #48
JonnyM: Yes. Round the world there are many. Yeah, but be fair for a moment.. Only English people like an English breakfast. ;P

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Jul 15, 11, 21:44 #49
JonnyM: Polish restaurant food is not particularly good. but Polish food?somebody who eats badly prepared food, of course, won't like it... jyjkhfa: Don't even try to buy it ready in a shop!!! actually I did buy ready falczki in a Polish store and it was quite good, not as good and spiced up like my grandma's but still...

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Edited by: JonnyM Jul 15, 11, 21:46 #50

A J:

Yeah, but be fair for a moment.. Only English people like an English breakfast.

Most don't, but in the cafes that dot the streets of Tottenham when I spent a few weeks there recently, it tended to be Poles who were tucking into the gloriously heart attack-inducing platefuls.

Des Essientes:

posters on this forum obviously feel inadequate when they compare themselves to Poles

That's one of the funniest things I've read here. And amazingly it was written by somebody who has no direct experience of Poland!

pgtx:

but Polish food?somebody who eats badly prepared food, of course, won't like it...

That's the point! Home-cooked can be quite nice, but in restaurants something often goes badly wrong.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Jul 15, 11, 21:48 #51
Marynka11: Not everyone has to like Polish food. That is true, but this thread claims that Polish restaurants are not successful in America. Myself and other posters have proved it wrong and so the trolls respond with blanket claims about Polish food and restaurants in Poland itself. This thread is about Polish restaurants in the USA.

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Jul 15, 11, 21:51 #52

Rebirth:

All she's been doing is accusing me of being a troll. When I said crepes are a type of pancake (which is true), she called me a troll.

Don't worry about Moania and Dessie - all they do is whinge. Are you in the US? If so tell us about any Polish restaurants in your area. I've just gone to the UK for a week. There was one near where I am now but it went bust - the local Poles (more than 20,000) prefer Italian, British, Indian, Chinese etc and non-Poles tended to visit it once then not go again.

Marynka11Threads: 8 Posts: 1,447 Joined: Nov 3, 10 ♀	Jul 15, 11, 21:52 #53
A J: Only English people like an English breakfast. The breakfast scene in Trainspotting killed it for me. I don't think I will ever try English breakfast.

Monia	Jul 15, 11, 21:53 #54
Rebirth: I dine at many Italian restaurants You , in fact , wash dishes there and you are alowed to have 15 min break to eat something in a broom closet in that fast food restaurant where you wash . You keep forgetting about it too frequently . You should increase daily intake of lecithin.

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Edited by: A J Jul 15, 11, 21:53 #55
JonnyM: Most don't, but in the cafes that dot the streets of Tottenham when I spent a few weeks there recently, it tended to be Poles who were tucking into the gloriously heart attack-inducing platefuls. I don't believe a word of it! I mean, most Polish people I know won't even touch a Dutch dish, so why on earth would they order an English breakfast?? ;P

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Jul 15, 11, 21:55 #56
Topic reminder: Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA?

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Edited by: JonnyM Jul 15, 11, 21:55 #57
A J: I don't believe a word of it! I mean, most Polish people I know won't even touch a Dutch dish, so why on earth would they order an English breakfast?? Calories, sizzling bacon, low price etc. Especially the big portions. Restaurants in Poland tend to serve disappointing quantities - are they the same in Polish restaurants in the US? I can't imagine that would go down well.

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Jul 15, 11, 21:59 #58

JonnyM:

Calories, sizzling bacon, low price etc.

My stomach's acting up again. So if you'll please excuse me..

;P

pgtx:

Topic reminder: Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA?

I think it's because of the same reason Dutch restaurants aren't successful in the USA? (Or German restaurants??)

;)

Marynka11:

The breakfast scene in Trainspotting killed it for me. I don't think I will ever try English breakfast.

Well, I've actually *tried* it once. (With a *huge* emphasis on trying!!)

xD

urszula:

You are the worst moderator on here.

You're wrong. I am the worst moderator on here. (That's why I'm not a Moderator!)

;)

beckskiThreads: 19 Posts: 2,148 Joined: May 15, 07 MEMBER ♀	Jul 15, 11, 22:01 #59
Rebirth: Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? Location location location really matters. I don't want to have to drive 65 miles to the Los Angeles area, when I feel like dining in a Polish restaurant. A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!

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Edited by: Rebirth Jul 15, 11, 22:05 #60

JonnyM:

Are you in the US? If so tell us about any Polish restaurants in your area.

Yes, I live in Connecticut and I can tell you the Polish restaurants are not popular at all. Even in the New Britain area which has a significant Polish and Polish-American population.

There used to be a Polish restaurant in Hartford (the only one I'm aware of) but it went out of business because it was always empty. I'm not surprised either because the food was god-awful there. I remember one Saturday I wasted there when I ordered kielbasa. I was so angry at myself that I didn't choose to have a barbecue instead with some bratwursts.

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