REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH

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Dec 20, 09, 15:08 #1

I WENT TO DUBLIN US EMBASSY BEFORE I WAS MARRIED TO GO ON A HOLIDAY TO NEW YORK WITH MY THEN BOYFRIEND NOW HUSBAND AND I HAD AN APPOINTMENT TO SEE SOMEONE IN THE EMBASSY , I WAS TO BRING PASSPORT, LETTER FROM WORK TO SAY I WAS EMPLOYED AND RETURNING BACK , BANK STATEMENTS, BILL WITH MY ADDRESS, WHEN I WENT IN AN ARROGANT MAN, ASKED ME FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT HAD I FAMILY HERE AND IN U.S, , I SAID BROTHER WAS IN IRELAND AND I HAD 2ND COUSINS IN U.S THAT I NEVER SEE OR TALK TOO, HE JUST SAID NO YOU CANT GO , THATS IT,
I WAS VERY UP SET ,
CAN ANYONE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY GETTING A HOLIDAY VISA , NOW IM MARRIED IT MIGHT HELP THE SITUATION, ?

WOULD GETTING AN IRISH PASS PORT HELP? IF SO HOW DO I GO ABOUT THAT

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 15:12 #2
deeds sue them ! It maybe not help you to get a visa but will serve bastard right! Why do you feel that urge to go to country which clearly is discriminating against Poles! **** them!

polkamaniacThreads: 1 Posts: 514 Joined: Aug 2, 09 ♂	Edited by: polkamaniac Dec 20, 09, 15:35 #3
Why don't you come to Canada????. NO Visa Required !!!!!Canada has dropped the restriction to Poland.You could come to Niagara Falls,Ontario--which was one of the 7 wonders of the world and have your American friend come to Buffalo, New York.There you guys can meet.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,585 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 15:38 #4
Ironside: Why do you feel that urge to go to country which clearly is discriminating against Poles! You do it constantly to Ukranians and others. In fact, obtaining a Polish visa is nearly impossible in some Eastern European countries without paying a bribe. As for suing them - suing them for what exactly?

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: richasis Dec 20, 09, 15:38 #5
Say, why not just fly to Mexico City and simply drive, walk or swim across the border? Really, who needs a visa to enter the US anymore? ;)

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 15:45 #6
delphiandomine: You do it constantly to Ukranians and others. Nonsense. Ukrainans and Belorussian hadn't needed the visas to visit Poland before we joined EU. EU forced us to change that, anyway we managed to push up easier procedures for them in Brussels, so they can much easier get a Polish visa than German or British ones.

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Dec 20, 09, 16:09 #7

deeds:

CAN ANYONE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY GETTING A HOLIDAY VISA , NOW IM MARRIED IT MIGHT HELP THE SITUATION

My mate told me a few days ago, that her friend got a holiday visa to the U.S. Unfortunatelly people responsible for "letting people in" to America simply told that person:No, you're not welcome here( I'm sorry but I don't know how it works to be honest), and he had to go home. Paid a lot for plane tickets and this was the end of his trip to the U.S.
So now he's always applying for a working visa, since holiday visa for Poles means sh*t to Americans.

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 16:34 #8
delphiandomine: s for suing them - suing them for what exactly? for discrimination based on citizenship

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,585 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 16:36 #9
Ironside: for discrimination based on citizenship Aww. cute. How is visa refusal 'discrimination'? And if it is, you've been discriminating against Ukranians and Belarussians quite badly since Schengen game in.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,189 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 16:37 #10
Ironside: for discrimination based on citizenship I think they have quite complicated rules - not so much to do with the person applying as the percentage of people from that country who overstay their visa. I don't think suing them would get anywhere. Otherwise plenty of people would have done that.

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: richasis Dec 20, 09, 16:55 #11
Poland must not have allowed enough US missiles to be planted on their soil... One visa per missile seems to be fair diplomatic policy. [sarcasm]

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Edited by: Ironside Dec 20, 09, 17:14 #12

jonni:

I think they have quite complicated rules - not so much to do with the person applying as the percentage of people from that country who overstay their visa.

No so much for those who overstay their visa but for the percentage of people from said country who were refused visa.
Which is classic catch 22.
When pressed they start mumbling something about number of people from said country who overstay their visa but they are unable to provide any statistics, most likely those statistic or numbers do not exist.
That about sums it up!Bastards!

jonni:

I don't think suing them would get anywhere. Otherwise plenty of people would have done that.

Oh! I don't think USA government or US official could be acquitted in the court of law but if enough people refused visa would sue, that would have been a very bad publicity for US land of the fee,don't you agree?

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 17:19 #13
jonni: as the percentage of people from that country who overstay their visa. The base It on the % of visa refusals, so Poles are pften refused a visa because many Poles in the past were refused a visa... no kidding, But these are Yanks, what one could expect...

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 17:36 #14
Ironside: US land of the fee perhaps truer words have not been spoken :)

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Edited by: sledz Dec 20, 09, 18:44 #15

richasis:

Mexico City and simply drive, walk or swim across the border? Really, who needs a visa to enter the US anymore? ;)

You would one of those fools that they find dead in the desert:)

Its so easy go ahead and try it, or you can pay the coyotes to get you across but once they have your money whos to say they just wont shoot you ????

And they will ask you for a passport at the border,,,, so cram yourself underneath the hood like a Mexican..lol

polkamaniacThreads: 1 Posts: 514 Joined: Aug 2, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 18:50 #16
The best way to get around your problem is to have you brother in the U.S request that you visit him.This way he guarantees that while you are there he will look after you.In Polish it's called a "Zaproszenie" ----- this usually works .

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: richasis Dec 20, 09, 20:16 #17
sledz: Its so easy go ahead and try it 20,000,000+ successfully have... although few, if any, are Polish :)

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Edited by: sledz Dec 20, 09, 20:32 #18
richasis: although few, if any, are Polish :) Better check your facts again, there are thousands of Illegal Poles in Chicago. Thats why the government stopped giving them visas because they never return home when theyre supposed too, so blame your fellow Polocks for screwing it up for the honest ones.

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Edited by: scrappleton Dec 20, 09, 20:42 #19

polkamaniac:

The best way to get around your problem is to have you brother in the U.S request that you visit him.This way he guarantees that while you are there he will look after you

That might work. If not you've wasted a plane ticket for nothing.

richasis:

20,000,000+ successfully have

Yeah a hell of a lot die of deprivation or the elements trying it too. There is no welcoming tuba band and party for Mexicans, sorry. You want to risk that for a holiday visa? If you're so dead set on it try it through Canada, should you get caught you might be denied access for life.

Before you vilify US immigration people if you stay and do not return (which obviously happens) they could lose their jobs. This isn't the EU and having no job in the US often means you don't eat.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 57 Posts: 2,316 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 20:44 #20
This is why VISA system should be over. And we as Poles should begin ... Europe should follow. We must remove visa system for everyone entering our countries for atleast 90 days to begin with. Every country.

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Dec 20, 09, 22:05 #21

sledz:

there are thousands of Illegal Poles in Chicago.

any stats?
Because US government doesn't have any....

sledz:

why the government stopped giving them visas because they never return home when theyre supposed too,

Blah blah
How many others nationals do no return and they are not restricted by visa system?

scrappleton:

Before you vilify US immigration people if you stay and do not return (which obviously happens) they could lose their jobs

visas should be abolish for Polish citizens and in this magical way immigration people can hold onto their precious, bureaucratic, worthless jobs in which they are obviously not very good.

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Dec 20, 09, 22:10 #22

sledz:

Better check your facts again, there are thousands of Illegal Poles in Chicago.

Perhaps, but they didn't swim the Rio Grande to get here (which was the point).

scrappleton:

Yeah a hell of a lot die of deprivation or the elements trying it too

Could you please quantify "a hell of a lot"?

scrappleton:

There is no welcoming tuba band and party for Mexicans, sorry

Who's sorry? If you feel compelled to apologize, you should do so in the Spanish language.

scrappleton:

If you're so dead set on it try it through Canada, should you get caught you might be denied access for life

Agreed. That's why I always recommend the southern (US-Mexico) border.

scrappleton:

Before you vilify US immigration people

Who's vilifying anyone? Now, the government and its policies... that's different.

scrappleton:

This isn't the EU

That settles it, then... I'm moving to Europe. :)

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Dec 20, 09, 22:41 #23
richasis: I'm moving to Europe. :) .. buen suerte :- )

polishfan74

Dec 21, 09, 00:57 #24

polkamaniac:

!!!!!Canada has dropped the restriction to Poland

Canada sux the big one and is in need of white people to once again be considered a "white country"... Canada has no identity by trying to imitate their neighbors to the south...canadian big cities look like the united nations, arabs, muslims, africans, latinos, chinese, philipinos... throw in the white folks who dont want to speak english and you dont know WTF you are.... just a fact... and truly sad.

BrutalButcherThreads: 1 Posts: 623 Joined: Nov 10, 09 ♂	Dec 21, 09, 01:01 #25
scrappleton Buena suerte*** ;D

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Dec 21, 09, 01:05 #26
BrutalButcher: ;D Felicidades ... you know how to Google. :- D ... and complain ... :- D

AussieSheila	Dec 21, 09, 04:51 #27
i'm going to take my polish friend for round the world trip with Star Alliance and we planned to visit the US. I dont need visa for US but i'm worried for him since he is just a student with no job. :(

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂	Dec 21, 09, 05:07 #28
AussieSheila: i'm worried for him since he is just a student with no job. :( I think they worry more about if he had family here then he might stay or something. It shouldn't be that big of a deal to just visit.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,181 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Dec 21, 09, 05:45 #29
AussieSheila: I dont need visa for US but i'm worried for him since he is just a student with no job. :( Is it because you are Australian?

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Dec 21, 09, 13:44 #30

Ironside:

No so much for those who overstay their visa but for the percentage of people from said country who were refused visa.

What a surprise to see you lying again! Decisions about who does and does not get a visa to the USA are based solely on the individual application.

Whether a nation is permitted entry to the visa waiver program is based on the percentage of applications for a visa which are refused.

Ironside:

When pressed they start mumbling something about number of people from said country who overstay their visa but they are unable to provide any statistics, most likely those statistic or numbers do not exist.

Of course they do. All passports are scanned on the way in and again on the way out. Cross reference that with visa info and you have the list of people who overstayed and their nationalities.

Grzegorz_:

The base It on the % of visa refusals, so Poles are pften refused a visa because many Poles in the past were refused a visa... no kidding,

No kidding, just lying: precisely what we've come to expect from you Greg.

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