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crowinskiThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: May 22, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Administrator Nov 19, 07, 11:49 #1
For those who are interested, please join us in an organized protest this November the 24th, from 12pm-3pm. We are meeting at the Vancouver Art Gallery, organized by the Vancouver Polonia. Let's make our voices heard! Join the Robert Dziekanski Protest Group (Protest in Vancouver on November 24th, 12pm-3pm) - For more information, please join the following facebook group [for registered members only - A.]: facebook.com/group.php?gid=14191365421&ref=mf

CanadianguyThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Nov 16, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Canadianguy Nov 19, 07, 12:38 #2
people have lost interest already. Its human nature to be overcome with emotion and then the cause gets slowly forgotten, people find something else to rant about or people just lose interest thats reality.

crowinskiThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: May 22, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 13:14 #3
Lost interest? Really? Have you seen the amount of internet and media coverage over this since the video was released? This topic is as strong as ever, especially in Vancouver. This is a situation where the cause should not be forgotten, and people should actually organize to try and initiate change. The Vancouver Polonia has already over 300 confirmations for attendance on this day, so this issue is far from dead.

crowinskiThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: May 22, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 13:17 #4
http://news.google.com/news?q=robert+dziekanski&hl=en&rlz=1T4GFRC_enCA 207&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title

Grzegorz_Threads: 66 Posts: 5540 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 13:42 #5
Thanks.

plk123Threads: 16 Posts: 4300 Joined: Aug 29, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 14:54 #6
let us know how you like the tear gas or taser juice.. i am sure the mounties will be prepared. ;)

crowinskiThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: May 22, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 14:57 #7
lol, will do :) I'm hoping it will be a peaceful protest, but there is an awful lot of emotion that has been building over the last week. Facebook groups and events are spreading like wildfire for the Vancouver and Toronto protests on November 24th. If the RCMP get aggresive, I can guarantee you the protestors (atleast the Polish ones :) will push right back. I will post my experience here.

CanadianguyThreads: - Posts: 12 Joined: Nov 16, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 19, 07, 20:44 #8
Quoting: crowinski lol, will do :) I'm hoping it will be a peaceful protest, but there is an awful lot of emotion that has been building over the last week. Facebook groups and events are spreading like wildfire for the Vancouver and Toronto protests on November 24th. If the RCMP get aggresive, I can guarantee you the protestors (atleast the Polish ones :) will push right back. I will post my experience here. not RCMP jurisdiction so you dont have to worry....but municipal forces will have a good supply of teargas and tasers.......if that doesnt work..we bring in the army , and they have some real cool toys.. ;-)

malgosia	Nov 20, 07, 13:35 #9
Don't listen to that moron, Canadianguy. He posts all over the discover vancouver forum. He has a double digit IQ and that's on a good day. The rally in Toronto is taking place this Saturday at 12 pm at Queens Park. Don't be fooled by the politicians' statements about a full public inquiry. They only want to weaken us. Robert Dziekanski was murdered and we want the murderers prosecuted like common criminals because that's who they are. And those criminals were being covered up by the officials of the RCMP so that makes them criminals as well for aiding and abetting. Nice police force Canada. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

miranda	Edited by: miranda Nov 20, 07, 13:41 #10
Quoting: Canadianguy not RCMP jurisdiction so you dont have to worry....but municipal forces will have a good supply of teargas and tasers.......if that doesnt work..we bring in the army , and they have some real cool toys.. ;-) in your little world pal - RCMP probably didn't want you...... If you dreaming of another Oka - well, keep dreaming. Soldiers scared of Native women and children.

Foreigner4Threads: 10 Posts: 1150 Joined: Nov 18, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 14:24 #11
don't let canadianguy put you off. Yes, he has a point but only if people lay down for this kind of ****. I wonder if we can do something outside the embassy here in Poland?

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 16:08 #12
For all the ******** about Canada, sure a lot of Polish here. hmmmmmm. I can understand the anger, however the taser wasn't meant to kill. The guy was swinging a chair and acting like a complete idiot. He would have been shot in a lot of other countries. For all the RCMP knew he could have high off crack. I hear all this criticism that it's the RCMP's fault they couldn't understand him. Just a reminder, Polish is not OUR national language. I remember a couple of years back when that Polish (weapons smuggling) immigrant shot and killed an RCMP officer. Lucky for the Polish the rest of Canada decided not to organize for that. To all the Polish immigrants LUCKY enough to be here, remember this. these same people you are planning on marching against are the very same ones that put their lives on the line every day for us so YOU and I can enjoy the quality of life we have in this country. GOD BLESS CANADA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 16:11 #13
PS - if it wasn't for WWII Allies including Canadians, German would be the national language in Poland and the rest of Europe.

Grzegorz_Threads: 66 Posts: 5540 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 16:12 #14
Quoting: denim73 PS - if it wasn't for WWII Allies including Canadians, German would be the national language in Poland and the rest of Europe. Yawn...

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 16:14 #15
Actually they weren't scared of the woman and children, they were scared of the 'brave" natives using then as sheilds as they ran around with shotguns. The only casualty in that standoff was a Quebec police officer (and his family) who was killed for trying to do his job. To this day not one native has stood trial for his murder.

miranda	Edited by: miranda Nov 20, 07, 16:27 #16
Quoting: denim73 Actually they weren't scared of the woman and children, they were scared of the 'brave" natives using then as sheilds as they ran around with shotguns. you forgot to mention the barbwire. Please and don't tell me about the quality of life of Native people in Canada, Anywas, I was not commenting on your response originally and I am done with people like you on this board. enough said and this is about Mr Dziakanski, so keep it on topic.

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Puzzler Nov 20, 07, 16:47 #17
Quoting: denim73 Polish is not OUR national language Quoting: denim73 Lucky for the Polish the rest of Canada decided not to organize for that. Quoting: denim73 To all the Polish immigrants LUCKY enough to be here Quoting: denim73 these same people you are planning on marching against are the very same ones that put their lives on the line every day for us so YOU and I can enjoy the quality of life we have in this country Quoting: denim73 GOD BLESS CANADA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! Quoting: denim73 The guy was swinging a chair and acting like a complete idiot. Quoting: denim73 if it wasn't for WWII Allies including Canadians, German would be the national language in Poland and the rest of Europe Quoting: denim73 Yeah, "yawn" thats what Poland was doing when Hitler ran over your country like a speedbump - Harken yet again to the voice of real Canada - the voice of psychopathy, jingoism, self-conceit, boorishness, unheard of ignorance, and savage Polonophobia. No wonder Polish people are being murdered in that loony racist dump. Quoting: denim73 GOD BLESS CANADA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! - God curse this horrific racist dump built on the blood and bones of countless victims, such as Native Indians. I hope I live long enough to see the day of doom for the dump. Let's expose the dirty secrets of these self-complacent lying racists, bandits and hypocrites to the world. I know these secrets very well indeed and I will be divulging them whenever I can as long as I live. :) Any real Polish people living in that dump should leave it instantly, if they care at all about self-respect.

Grzegorz_Threads: 66 Posts: 5540 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 16:49 #18
Welocme back Puz :):)

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 17:00 #19
Quoting: Grzegorz_ Welocme back Puz :):) - Thank you. Imagine, Greg, that I was 'suspended' for a while, ostensibly for using derogatory language towards somebody (who?!), but in reality, I suspect, for my matter-of-fact statements about 'Canada.' I didn't even know about the 'suspension,' as I was away for a while. :)

HmmmThreads: 1 Posts: 92 Joined: Sep 18, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 17:17 #20
Quoting: Puzzler I didn't even know about the 'suspension,' as I was away for a while. Ha ha... Defeats the whole freaking purpose. Welcome back Puz! It's good to have you PF-ing!

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 17:42 #21
Quoting: plk123 let us know how you like the tear gas or taser juice.. i am sure the mounties will be prepared. ;) - Well, I wonder why on earth you have the pic of the Polish husar for an avatar if you're such a Polonophobe? Shouldn't you rather utilize a swastika or Canadian 'maple leaf'? :) Quoting: Hmmm Welcome back Puz! It's good to have you PF-ing! - Thanks, man. I feel good and moved that there are also people here who appreciate my posts. God bless you.

BubbaWooThreads: 45 Posts: 4473 Joined: Sep 26, 06 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 18:32 #22
Quoting: Puzzler ostensibly for using derogatory language towards somebody (who?!), most of your posts are riddled with derogatory language so take your pick twat

MagsThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: Nov 19, 07 Gender: Female	Nov 20, 07, 18:57 #23
where do you live puz?

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Puzzler Nov 20, 07, 19:49 #24
Quoting: BubbaWoo twat - Isn't this derogatory language? Would you suspend yourself, pal, or should I say: 'twat'? I can see you have a double-standard here: when Puzzler replies in kind to wackos that insult him vulgarly, you suspend Puzzler, but not the wackos. There are those who are equal and those who are more equal in this forum, aren't they? Where's your conscience, sense of justice, equal treatment for all, pal? What an Orwellian figure you appear to be indeed. Quoting: Mags where do you live puz? - My birthplace is Poland, but I've been travelling in Europe, most recently in UK and Ireland. Why are you asking?

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 21:01 #25
Quoting: miranda enough said and this is about Mr Dziakanski, so keep it on topic. Quoting: miranda If you dreaming of another Oka - well, keep dreaming. Soldiers scared of Native women and children. Yes I agree, lets keep this on topic, but while we're on the topic I don't need a reminder about the quality of life of the natives. I live next to a reservation and put up with their roadblocks only to be asked for spare change by them when I get to work.

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 21:01 #26
Quoting: z_darius z_darius :))

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: denim73 Nov 20, 07, 21:30 #27
Quoting: Puzzler Harken yet again to the voice of real Canada - the voice of psychopathy, jingoism, self-conceit, boorishness, unheard of ignorance, and savage Polonophobia. No wonder Polish people are being murdered in that loony racist dump. HAHAHAHA! Wow! What a tirade. Too bad most of your other countrymen don't feel the same way, they love it here. They flock off the boats every year by the thousands. Seriously though I can't blame them by talking to some of my Polish friends. In Canada if your work hard to succeed you will. From what I understand, Poland has the highest unemployment rate, cost of living and poverty rate in Europe. Ironically enough after joining the European Union. I don't blame them from not wanting to go back. You were almost better off sticking to your socialist roots instead of trying to imitate North American capitalism. As far as your quoting of my previous thread, toil in your own meager exisitence, your comments are neither prolific or substantiated. My comments are completely factual and unbiased. As far as your comments of racial intolerance, if I'm not mistaken Poland only started adopting Equal Rights Acts in the early 90's after adopting democracy. If I'm not mistaken, the Roma sects of your country are still not protected by this legislation. A little late in the game to be a hypocrite don't you agree? Then there is the matter of the decommisioning of Polish landmines still in exisitence. Poland keeps procrastinating on their commitment to abolish the production use and trade of these deadly weapons of terrorism. Are we making a little money on the side? You should come visit Canada, I'm sure we can find a hot dog cart you can work at.

PolishWings	Nov 20, 07, 23:15 #28
denim, you are an idiot. i love in canada, and this place is a huge piece of ****. regards, Martin PS: you know absolutely nothing about poland.

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1627 Joined: Mar 21, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 20, 07, 23:28 #29
Quoting: PolishWings PS: you know absolutely nothing about poland. - And hopefully he'll remain so. Amen. :)

MagsThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: Nov 19, 07 Gender: Female	Nov 20, 07, 23:39 #30
Quoting: Puzzler My birthplace is Poland, but I've been travelling in Europe, most recently in UK and Ireland. Why are you asking? just wondering. how long did u live in poland before leaving?

MagsThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: Nov 19, 07 Gender: Female	Nov 20, 07, 23:42 #31
Quoting: denim73 In Canada if your work hard to succeed you will. that claim is a bit romantic don't you think? I know plenty of people with university degrees that can't find a decent job here in Ontario.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2643 Joined: Jun 14, 06 Gender: Male	Edited by: FISZ Nov 21, 07, 07:39 #32
Quoting: denim73 He would have been shot in a lot of other countries I disagree. In other countries most of the police actually have a pair and would've taken him down with their own hands. It was 4 against 1. Quoting: denim73 I live next to a reservation and put up with their roadblocks only to be asked for spare change by them when I get to work. Well, if your ancestors were raped and killed off you may be in the same situation. ... A?It's too bad Canada breeds heathens like you. I'm a Native American, but I still feel bad for you. Just keep in mind that one day "keeping it real" can put you in a bad spot. Why don't you just live life for the future and not reach for the past...... cause that's all you're doing...reaching.

ZgubionyThreads: 22 Posts: 2062 Joined: Oct 20, 06 Gender: Male	Nov 21, 07, 08:24 #33
Quoting: denim73 Just a reminder, Polish is not OUR national language. Why would you even say anything like this. Most international airports can cater to anyone speaking another language. They thought he was speaking Russian!? Was there an attempt to do the logical thing and try to find a translator?

miranda	Nov 21, 07, 08:47 #34
Quoting: FISZ Just keep in mind that one day "keeping it real" can put you in a bad spot. Why don't you just live life for the future and not reach for the past...... cause that's all you're doing...reaching. yep

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 21, 07, 18:40 #35
Quoting: PolishWings denim, you are an idiot. No one is forcing you to stay, an incidentally so, only an "idiot" would stay in a country they hate to live in. I know enough about Poland to know I'm grateful to be Canadian. Typical immigrant ********, give them opportunity and they spit on you. Just like your friend "puzzler", jealously breeds hatred - end of discussion.

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 21, 07, 18:46 #36
Quoting: FISZ Well, if your ancestors were raped and killed off you may be in the same situation. ... A?It's too bad Canada breeds heathens like you. I'm a Native American, but I still feel bad for you. Exactly how does the atrocities commited against your ancestors equate to the current social circumstances. Same bullsh*t line all the time. native Americans are given every opportunity. No taxes, free health services, free education...the list goes on. Every social advantage you can think of and yet all you can do is wallow in you own crapulence. PS- Don't feel bad for ME, I live a good life with a good family, good freinds and a great future that I worked very hard for. I feel bad for those who's potential is limited by the 200 year old stick on their shoulder.

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 21, 07, 19:04 #37
Quoting: Mags In Canada if your work hard to succeed you will. Yes, in hindsight I will agree. I have a friend in the same situation. However the point that I was trying to make is that we have land full of opportunity for all for those who are willing to succeed. My family came from England when I was very young and I am so grateful they took that chance. I love my country, I love what it stands for and even it imperfections because it reminds me that it takes continual effort on that part of all concerned citizens to make this great country. I'm tired of the slander against it, especially from those who live here and benefit from our social ideology. However because we do value the freedom of expression most of us tolerate it. Canada never begged for the Polish (or any other nation for that matter) to send us it's refugees, less fortunate or those wanting a better life for themselves or their family, but welcomed them all the same. I went through the same tedious immigration process like everyone else did, I offered no excuses and accepted the things that I could not control or disliked about our system. Instead of ******** about things I did not like I contributed what I could to better myself. I'm very successful because of it. I'm absolutely no different than any Polish, Russian, Serbian, Japanese or other ethnic that came through those airport gates. Don't you agree?

denim73Threads: - Posts: 28 Joined: Nov 20, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 21, 07, 19:11 #38
Quoting: PolishWings PS: you know absolutely nothing about poland. I'm confused, was there something NOT factual I stated?

Foreigner4Threads: 10 Posts: 1150 Joined: Nov 18, 07 Gender: Male	Nov 22, 07, 04:32 #39
Quoting: denim73 how does the atrocities commited against your ancestors equate to the current social circumstances. Same bullsh*t line all the time. native Americans are given every opportunity. No taxes, free health services, free education...the list goes on. Every social advantage you can think of and yet all you can do is wallow in you own crapulence. Well try to imagine aliens taking over your civilization and killing off the majority of your people. Try to imagine being forced to live a completely different life. It's true that First Nations Peoples are given many "opportunities" but that's just the government throwing money at the problem. An entire race can't be smashed to smitherines and then the remnants be expected to just blend in problem free with the conquerors. Now are you and I the conquerors? No. Did you or I do anything wrong? No, unless being born white in NA is something we can be blamed for. Everyone has to look at the source of the problem and that is the government and its policies. And the extent to which the First Nations ancestral ranks were decimated (if not worse). Having said that, it wouldn't kill the First Nations people to recognize dishonest bellyaching for what it is. None of these blanket "white man" accusations and "lacking funds." Focus your attacks damnit.

true1	Nov 22, 07, 04:41 #40
Quoting: crowinski the cause should not be forgotten, yeah, what about the case of an US GI who came to Poland and got shut in some stupid azz disco in or around Warsaw area? I saw opinions here like "he deserved it" etc.. Now you guys expect me to feel for you...

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