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 Jan 8, 12, 16:26    #1
PolAm voters appear divided over their support for the two front-leading Republican hopefuls, as both candidates espouse strong pro-family views shared by msot PolAms. Santorum has plainly styated: ‘If the Supreme Court says you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything… It all comes from, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution... You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families... In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality.'
Romney also has the courage of his convictions and is not simply going bowing before the PC dictatorship and going with the liberal media flow when he staunchly states he opposes homosexual marriages. But he emphasises that is not tantamount to discriminating against homosexuals and even had one in his former cabinet. He said he treats them with dignity and respect, although he does not believe they should be legally allowed to marry.

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 Jan 8, 12, 16:47    #2
Polonius3:
In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality.'

It does now. And the world is no worse for that.
Polonius3:
not simply going bowing before the PC dictatorship

Whatever that means!
Polonius3:
homosexual

Polonius3:
homosexuals

You really have got a thing about that subject. You should take a cold shower.
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 Jan 8, 12, 16:50    #3
Santorum
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 Jan 8, 12, 16:54    #4
Lmfao...We British treated the Indians with "dignity and respect" too, means naff all when the one doing all this oh so gracious treating of people are the ones holding all the cards and still calling most of the shots and making the laws,passing down little scraps of semi freedom to the poor peasants.
How big of them eh, nobilise oblige brought to the 21st century.....weirdos with issues anyway,only in America are so called hetro exuals so obsessed with what goes on in other peoples private lives.......
One also has to wonder at just how much oxygen was starved from the brains of people who lump homosexual marriage and incest together.....surely,by definition a homosexual marriage could not involve any form of incest.......
But still the USA has the brass balls to try and tell the rest of the world that the USA is the pinicle of Freedom and Democracy...bag O sh!te......USA "freedom" is granted,everywhere else,freedom is assumed.
The pilgrim fathers didnt leave England and Holland because they were a persecuted religious minority,they left because they were not allowed to be the persecutors,well,they are still the ones on top in the good ole US of A, a bunch of bible mis quoting lunatics who feel a need to stick there noses in everyone elses buisness.whatever,just keep that sh!t your side of the Ocean and let the rest of the world in peace OK.
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 Jan 8, 12, 17:00    #5
isthatu2:
.weirdos with issues anyway,only in America are so called hetro exuals so obsessed with what goes on in other peoples private lives.

Even then, most don't get all worked up about it. Just the fanatics and religious fundamentalists.
isthatu2:
One also has to wonder at just how much oxygen was starved from the brains of people who lump homosexual marriage and incest together.....surely,by definition a homosexual marriage could not involve any form of incest....

Santorum is a classic case.
isthatu2:
a bunch of bible mis quoting lunatics who feel a need to stick there noses in everyone elses buisness.whatever,just keep that sh!t your side of the Ocean and let the rest of the world in peace OK.

The march of history and the growth in the far and middle Eastern economies is doing that for them without them even needing to try.
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 Jan 8, 12, 17:06    #6
Polonius3:
this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution


And this guy came in 2nd place in Iowa? Wow.

Anyway, Polonia can be pro-marriage all the want - as long as they keep their nose out of internal Polish affairs.
cyga  Jan 8, 12, 17:18    #7
Santorum has no clue about the world around him; he believes that Poland together with Islam is one of the greatest dangers in the world to the United States.

Romney replaced computers in his office at the end of his term as governor in an effort to purge the records of his governorship. Seems like this right to privacy does exist for some privileged group, courtesy of the taxpayer himself. LOL

Ah, the caliber of US Presidential candidates. God save us from those cowboys.
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Edited by: Moderator  Jan 8, 12, 17:22    #8
You're aware of the fact, that Polish society is even more pro-marriage than the US. Luckily Poland. which once was a bulwark agaisnt the invading Mongolians, Turks, Bolsheviks and Soviet communism, is now a bulwark of common sense and decency against 'anything goes' West European anarcho-libertinism. And thank God for that. There is always the hope that even the fat, flabby and dissolute West will evnetually wise up and see the light. 25 years ago the majority of people in the free world could not even conceive of the Soviet Empire collapsing, and look what happened. Who knows when the euro, the EU and its attandant personal immorality will also become a thing of the best.
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Edited by: Moderator  Jan 8, 12, 17:25    #9
Polonius3:
You're aware of the fact, that Polish society is even more pro-marriage than the US. Luckily Poland. which once was a bulwark agaisnt the invading Mongolians, Turks, Bolsheviks and Soviet communism, is now a bulwark of common sense and decency against 'anything goes' West European anarcho-libertinism.


That would be why (at least) 20% of the Sejm is pro-gay marriage - with some estimates putting the figure as high as 35%? It's almost certain that we will see legislation passed in this Sejm allowing civil unions.

Polonius3:
Who knows when the euro, the EU and its attandant personal immorality will also become a thing of the best.


It's okay Polonius, no matter what happens, you'll still be an American and you'll still have absolutely no influence on Polish affairs.
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 Jan 8, 12, 17:26    #10
Ah, the caliber of US Presidential candidates. God save us from those cowboys.

amen
Ron Paul 2012  Jan 8, 12, 17:34    #11
cyga:
Ah, the caliber of US Presidential candidates. God save us from those cowboys.

Ron Paul for President!!!
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 Jan 8, 12, 18:17    #12
delphiandomine:
That would be why (at least) 20% of the Sejm is pro-gay marriage


Palikotists are not a real political movement, they have no clue what to do (what have they done since the elections?) and will disappear after the next elections, SLD is slowly dying out. So much for "pro-gay".
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 Jan 8, 12, 18:22    #13
delphiandomine:

And this guy came in 2nd place in Iowa? Wow.

Only 8 votes. There is still hope for Iowa.
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 Jan 8, 12, 18:44    #14
Grzegorz_:
Palikotists are not a real political movement,

Polsh election results say otherwise.
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 Jan 8, 12, 18:53    #15
Democracy is not perfect... such "things" happen but they are corrected with time.
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Democracy is not perfect... such "things" happen but they are corrected with time.

PiS, Samoobrona and LPR were a classic example of that. They have already been 'corrected' into the dustbin of history. Ruch Palikota is a step toward a more developed democracy.
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 Jan 8, 12, 19:56    #17
JonnyM:
Samoobrona and LPR were a classic example of that.


That's true.

JonnyM:
Ruch Palikota is a step toward a more developed democracy.


Maybe for homo-narco-atheistic-feministic-internationalistic-eco fanaticts. Vast majority of normal people call it what it is, a feckin joke.
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 Jan 8, 12, 19:58    #18
Grzegorz_:
That's true.

PiS as well. They're also finished.
Grzegorz_:
Maybe for homo-narco-atheistic-feministic-internationalistic-eco fanaticts.

Not quite a big enough contingency to give them 20% of the vote at their first election.
Grzegorz_:
Vast majority of normal people call it what it is, a feckin joke.

See above.
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 Jan 8, 12, 20:01    #19
JonnyM:
PiS as well. They're also finished.


No, they aren't.

JonnyM:
20% of the vote at their first election.


Please explain.

JonnyM:
See above.


Go out and ask people on the street what they think about Paligłup.
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 Jan 8, 12, 20:04    #20
The voters decide. And as far as I can see, we're still on the Third not Fourth Republic.

The people have spoken. LOL
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Edited by: Moderator  Jan 8, 12, 20:36    #21
" Polish society is even more pro-marriage than the US."
Perhaps you could tell us why somebody who lives in the USA and visits this fine country once a decade should tell us what people here think?
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 Jan 8, 12, 23:50    #22
Some PF-ers seem hopelessly horse-blinkered and ahistorical by naively believing that development is unidirectional. Just recall Hitler's 1,000-year Reich or Stalin's communist wave of the future. Why should anyone believe that today's anarcho-libertine EU is any different than all the other historical episodes that have come and gone?!
There are many indications that, despite periodic ups and downs, the Judaeo-Christian ethic, now into tis 3rd millennium, has a good chance of outliving the fly-by-night formations such as Nazism, Communism and unprincipled hedonist consumerism.
P.S. A CBOS survey carried out in 2011 (none have been conducted so far in 2012), 65% of Poles were opposed to legalising same-sex partnerships (civil unions). More than two-thirds therefore support the Polish Constitution which defines marriage as a union only between a man and a woman.
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Edited by: Grzegorz_  Jan 8, 12, 23:54    #23
Harry:
Perhaps you could tell us why somebody who lives in the USA and visits this fine country once a decade should tell us what people here think?


It's called freedom of speech.

I guess then you never commented on societies in countries you don't live in, right ?
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 Jan 9, 12, 00:26    #24
Polonius3:
PolAm voters appear divided over their support for the two front-leading Republican hopefuls


Well that just proves how ignorant PolAms are and it would definitely explain the popularity of Polish jokes here in America.

Honestly, why do you give a **** if two people of the same gender get married? It doesn't affect you and it's absolutely sickening that PolAms are using their views on this issue to determine who they want to vote for.
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 Jan 9, 12, 00:28    #25
Harry:
Perhaps you could tell us why somebody who lives in the USA and visits this fine country once a decade should tell us what people here think?


Once a decade? that's generous...

Polonius3:
today's anarcho-libertine EU


Ah, Polonius - spoken as only an American can.

Polonius3:
P.S. A CBOS survey carried out in 2011 (none have been conducted so far in 2012), 65% of Poles were opposed to legalising same-sex partnerships (civil unions). More than two-thirds therefore support the Polish Constitution which defines marriage as a union only between a man and a woman.


But Polonius, why would you support this when it directly affects you?
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 Jan 9, 12, 01:34    #26
It's only a matter of time until the homophobic stance on marriage goes the same way as the sexist and racist views about not letting women or black people vote.

But it's always nice to see 'Polish'-Americans telling us about how things should be in our county.
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 Jan 9, 12, 01:43    #27
Harry:
It's only a matter of time until the homophobic stance on marriage goes the same way as the sexist and racist views about not letting women or black people vote.

Hey, Why would they vote ? I think that a right to vote should be a privilege, not pearls !

- marriage for homosexuals - I doubt that is a good idea.

Harry are you imagining yourself being a surfer on the tide of progress ?
Watch out for rocks !there goes one ......too late .
Angel-eyes  Jan 9, 12, 03:33    #28
marriage is between a man and a women! Civil partnerships are fine but not marriage.
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 Jan 9, 12, 04:43    #29
Angel-eyes:
marriage is between a man and a women!


Says you. Marriage doesn't take place in the Catholic church only. That's something you better remind yourself of as America is not a Catholic country but rather a nation in which you may practice whatever religious beliefs you want.
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 Jan 9, 12, 04:56    #30
Polonius3:
You're aware of the fact, that Polish society is even more pro-marriage than the US.


On that matter, there's a video I found today. Poles in Morąg (I believe) were asked what they would do if one of their close friends/family members told them they were a homo sapien. The responses are amazing. http://www.sadistic.pl/a-ty-jak-zareaguejsz-vt98515.htm

Interracial marriage used to be illegal, but it's fine now. This will come in time. Slowly, but it will happen.

Huntsman would be the only one I'd vote for, having been the ambassador to China.


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