Think you're Polish (and live in the USA)?

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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Jan 15, 11, 17:49 #151

guesswho:

Don't allow yourself to judge my parents because it's a long way for you to go to get where they have already been long time ago. You just wish you had parents like I do.

i was only putting two and two together i mean it would explain your somewhat blind patriotism.

guesswho:

At least I don't have to immigrate to another country to search for my "happiness" because I don't have any future here.

Its not really a case of having to, its just the choices we make, if you married a foreigner and he wanted to live in his home country for a while you might agree, no? it may also be a good idea if you had a skill set for profit in a developing country.

never say never, you never know what the future may hold.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Jan 15, 11, 17:57 #152
guesswho: Yeah, why don't they talk about China? China is **! Even if in 50 years it "catches up" to the States (some experts now believe this will never actually happen) it will be in overall GNP or GDP NEVER** per capita, which is how real wealth and standard of living in seen.

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Edited by: guesswho Jan 15, 11, 17:57 #153

Wroclaw Boy:

i was only putting two and two together i mean it would explain your somewhat blind patriotism.

It wouldn't explain anything as you don't know either one of us.
You can speculate, that's all.

Wroclaw Boy:

Its not really a case of having to, its just the choices we make, if you married a foreigner and he wanted to live in his home country for a while you might agree, no?

Might is the right word. I personally wouldn't. I'm not talking for everyone else but I personally couldn't live better anywhere else. As I've mentioned already on PF, I couldn't enhance my life in any other country I know and I know quite many.

PennBoy:

(some experts now believe this will never actually happen)

and they're most likely right because China's political system is enslaving their own people and as it was in the SU and in the entire eastern block, it will be abolished by its own people, sooner or later.

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,955 Joined: Aug 6, 09 ♂	Jan 15, 11, 18:45 #154
and they're most likely right because China's political system is enslaving their own people and as it was in the SU and in the entire eastern block, it will be abolished by its own people, sooner or later. I can say the same thing about corporations and all the governments on this planet.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jan 15, 11, 18:59 #155
Marek11111: I can say the same thing about corporations and all the governments on this planet. No you can't. Not in all countries are people being put in the concentration camps and not everywhere people work for "An average Chinese wage of $0.57 per hour -- or $104 per month -- is about 3 percent of the average U.S." http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/06/0502/art1.html

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Jan 15, 11, 19:13 #156

"An average Chinese wage of $0.57 per hour -- or $104 per month -- is about 3 percent of the average U.S."

gw your data is from 2006
But if you make $0.57 it is 100% more then not having job and that is where the economical problem is, no jobs no recovery.

"Beijing city is to raise its minimum wage 21 per cent next year, the second such rise in barely six months, amid rising inflationary pressure and growing concern over China’s widening wealth gap"
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/30f7f9e0-1277-11e0-b4c8-00144feabdc0.html#ax zz1B82UXXFi

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Jan 15, 11, 19:19 #157

Marek11111:

But if you make $0.57 it is 100% more then not having job

6. Unemployment

It sounds a paradox that the Chinese economy can grow at 8% and yet unemployment is still a problem. The reason is that there are still many state owned enterprises which are grossly inefficient. Therefore, in the process of privatization and modernization many surplus workers are being made redundant. There is also a lot of unemployment (and disguised unemployment) in the agricultural sector.

http://www.economicshelp.org/essays/problems-chinese-economic-growth.h tml

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Edited by: Moderator Jan 15, 11, 19:25 #158
guesswho: agricultural sector. This is China's trouble spot with unemployment, low wages and rampant poverty. This is where Chinese government should step up to the plate, sponsoring programs to help these poor people out so families can stay together and people can afford to have more kids. The topic: Think you're Polish (and live in the USA)?

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Jan 15, 11, 19:37 #159
PlasticPole: The topic: Think you're Polish (and live in the USA)? OK, I'm not. I'm leaving you guys alone here.

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Jan 16, 11, 21:50 #160

This is a crock of something whose smell does not resmeble daisies...in fact this whole thread about what makes a Polish-American is rather daft and off the wall.
90% or so of Polish Americans are US-born. They have betrayed nothing because they were born, lived, worked and will die in the good old USA. They have names such as Kołodziejczak, Mazur, Jankowski, Wójcik Zieliński, Kaczmarek and Król. To varying degrees they identify with their ancestral heritage (food, customs, Polonian festivals, etc.), whilst some do not. Only a tiny minority are fluent in Polish. Soem 9 million of them answered 'Polish' in the last US census when asked about their ethnicity. Others say they're American or 'my busia was Polish'.
Those are the facts. Interpret them as you may.
And here's one more fact: US-born Polonians do not need be ashamed of their parents or grandparents unlike many of the post-PRL-ians on this forum, because their families did not join the PZPR or otherwise collabroate with the alien, Soviet-imposed regime. Those were the real traitors! Case rests.

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