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Edited by: delphiandomine  Feb 3, 10, 16:13    #31
FUZZYWICKETS:
not really. Lech, Zywiec, Tyskie, Warka, Zubr, Okocim, Piast....all sub-par beers, and all basically the same in character/taste.

I'm guessing you can't tell the difference, because there is no way that they're similar in taste. None of them are particularly exceptional (though Lech Pils is a decent beer) - but none of them are truly awful either apart from Piast.

FUZZYWICKETS:
In Poland, I drink imports.

Ah, one of those types who pays twice the price for something is very similar in taste and character to a national brand. Carlsberg is suspiciously similar to a particular Polish brand...funny, that.

FUZZYWICKETS:
Polish beer isn't good and doesn't hold a candle next to the other "beer countries." Czech Rep., Slovakia, Belgium, Ireland, England, Netherlands, arguably Germany as well, all have better mass produced beer on the shelves.

Czech Republic - better
Slovakia - better
Belgium - Depnds
Ireland/England - you must be joking. If weak, tasteless water is your thing, then sure - but otherwise, Polish beer is vastly superior. There's a good reason why you see Brits drink Polish beer!
Netherlands - not a chance. Heineken is positioned as a premium product in Poland, when it's in reality an absolutely garbage product.
Germany - better.

It's no surprise that the countries known for their beer has superior beers, but Polish products are no worse than elsewhere. As for American beers? Laughable.

Incidentally, you really can't compare mass market products to microbrews, it's just not possible. If you compare the major brands of each country, then Polish beer is inferior to other countries known for strong beer, but beats the "coloured water" nations like the UK. Compare and contrast Tennents/McEwans to Lech/Tyskie for instance..

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 Feb 3, 10, 16:31    #32
Well, I went through your posts in this thread guys and to be honest, most of it you could pin on almost any country around the world, especially majority of the (West) European countries. Basically "same all same all" bs.
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 Feb 3, 10, 16:33    #33
delphiandomine:
Ireland/England - you must be joking. If weak, tasteless water is your thing, then sure - but otherwise, Polish beer is vastly superior. There's a good reason why you see Brits drink Polish beer!

Are you serious? Hundreds of real ales, the worst of them better than standard Polish beer.
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Feb 3, 10, 16:38    #34
jonni:
Are you serious? Hundreds of real ales, the worst of them better than standard Polish beer.

Compare like for like though, mass produced stuff is worse than Polish beer solely because most of it is dishwater weak. Isn't the micromarket Polish stuff supposed to be quite good too?

The interesting thing I find in Poland is that you see some places selling their own beers rather than the branded stuff - Brovaria in Poznan being an example. I remeber settling down for one drinking session there last summer and being pleasantly surprised at them only charging 7zl for a half litre of their own stuff - which isn't bad either.
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 Feb 3, 10, 16:55    #35
delphiandomine:
mass produced stuff is worse than Polish beer solely because most of it is dishwater weak

The mass-market lagers in UK are generally foul. Remember Ayingerbrau?

delphiandomine:
Isn't the micromarket Polish stuff supposed to be quite good too?

Excellent. But it tends to stay micromarket. There needs to be more of a middle ground between the big 5 and the smaller brands.
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Edited by: TheOther  Feb 3, 10, 17:18    #36
FUZZYWICKETS:
real opinions from experienced people

I am Australian and have lived in the USA probably longer than you are walking the earth. That's still not enough in your eyes to give you a "real opinion" (what the heck is that supposed to be anyway)? You're a bit confused, are you? ;)

'nough said - my last post in this BS thread.
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Edited by: Ironside  Feb 3, 10, 17:26    #37
Torq:
You have to speak English at a B2 level or higher to criticize USA?

What a brilliant idea, Fuzzywickets! Pure genius!

I propose to apply the same criteria to all the threads about Poland. If you haven't
lived in Poland for an extended period of time AND you don't speak POLISH at a B2
level (or higher) then we kindly ask you to refrain from making any comments about
our country :-) That should be a universal rule on this board and would put an end
to 99.9% of Poland-bashing here.

I congratulate you again on your excellent idea, FW.

well
said Torq !
come to think about it, ;) he is leading example of incompetence in action ;D its funny, sorry
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 Feb 3, 10, 17:27    #38
jonni:
The mass-market lagers in UK are generally foul. Remember Ayingerbrau?

I don't, but was it on the same level as the infamous Castlemaine XXXX or McEwans?

jonni:
Excellent. But it tends to stay micromarket. There needs to be more of a middle ground between the big 5 and the smaller brands.

Yup, agreed. There's Lech Pils here, which seems to fit that ground nicely - and I think Bosman also does a good job of it in/round Szczecin - but apart from that? Some of the Dolnoslaskie 'local mass market' beers are truly vile, though.
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 Feb 3, 10, 17:29    #39
convex:
The homeoffice doesn't seem to agree.

That's 07/08 i said 08/09 see link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8153392.stm

convex:
So was the knife, the club..the stun bolt.

Are they in the declaration?

scrappleton:
Yes.. and gun violence no matter how much your BBC

Why so defensive i only asked a question. Find on here where i have ever had a go at the US!

To Scrappy and Convex with regards the above why on earth should someone want/be allowed to own a military assault rifle at home, which i believe is allowed in some US states.
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 Feb 3, 10, 17:29    #40
delphiandomine:
the same level as the infamous Castlemaine XXXX or McEwans?

Worse. Truly the pits.

In Poland, I was thinking about some of the microbreweries near you. There's one just west of Poznań, near but not in Września, and another really good one in Zielona Góra.
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 Feb 3, 10, 17:38    #41
Delphiandomine, is it really that difficult to follow simple rules? you could choose ANY thread on this forum and post your senseless babble on it but you insist on posting here when I specifically asked you to stay away. you know what this thread is about, the criteria I requested and you know you don't satisfy them all.

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have never lived/worked in America, rendering your opinions on this thread useless. we don't want to hear it.

Maybe you just don't get it in English....sprobuje wyasnic w inny sposob:

no spadaj stad no! kurcze pieczone, to co, po prostu ciagle piszesz tu ale w ogole nie zwracasz uwagi na to co juz pisalem do ciebie?! Masz dziure w glowie? Prosze pana, wydaje mi sie ze dajesz mi sie we znaki.......bez powodu.

zobaczymy czy to dziala czy nie.......
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 Feb 3, 10, 17:41    #42
jonni:
In Poland, I was thinking about some of the microbreweries near you. There's one just west of Poznań, near but not in Września, and another really good one in Zielona Góra.

There are however good mass market Polish beers. Perla is one which knocks spots off all those fancy American microbrewed bits of rubbish.
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Edited by: jonni  Feb 3, 10, 18:07    #43
Harry:
Perla is one which knocks spots off all those fancy American microbrewed bits of rubbish.

I tend to buy Ciechan if I'm looking for something good. The only problem is its strength - about 6%. Żubr used to be excellent - almost a Pale Ale in flavour, but they changed the recipe.

Bottled beers are a good idea in PL - some bars keep the draught beers very poorly. I can think of one on ul. Wilcza where there's something amiss. Perhaps, just perhaps, the uniformity of Polish beers allows them to attach a cheaper barrel to the pumps.

I'll try Perła this week.
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Feb 3, 10, 18:13    #44
FUZZYWICKETS:
Delphiandomine, is it really that difficult to follow simple rules? you could choose ANY thread on this forum and post your senseless babble on it but you insist on posting here when I specifically asked you to stay away. you know what this thread is about, the criteria I requested and you know you don't satisfy them all.

When you can stay in Poland without being subject to immigration control, then we'll talk.

jonni:
Bottled beers are a good idea in PL - some bars keep the draught beers very poorly. I can think of one on ul. Wilcza where there's something amiss. Perhaps, just perhaps, the uniformity of Polish beers allows them to attach a cheaper barrel to the pumps.

It's not the barrel itself, but rather the lines to the barrel. I know someone who owns a bar who explained it all very simply for me - basically, you need to clean the lines once a week. This is costly - the bar in question was losing 10 litres a week per line, but it meant a way, way, way higher quality of beer. That's why sticking to bottles is the 'safe' bet in Poland - I very much doubt that most places are cleaning the lines even once a month! It's also a lot to do with the quality of chemicals used - once you've been to my friend's bar, you can really, really taste the difference.

Incidentally, the Ukranian Obolon isn't bad at all for a mass market beer, though it's tricky to find in Poland.
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 Feb 3, 10, 18:48    #45
jonni:
I can think of one on ul. Wilcza where there's something amiss. Perhaps, just perhaps, the uniformity of Polish beers allows them to attach a cheaper barrel to the pumps.

I doubt it. They'd get nailed to the wall by the brewery for trying that. Are you thinking about Lodi Dodi by any chance?

jonni:
I'll try Perła this week.

It's also 6%.


delphiandomine:
Incidentally, the Ukranian Obolon isn't bad at all for a mass market beer, though it's tricky to find in Poland.

Really? Even the Carefour express have them in Warsaw.
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 Feb 3, 10, 20:19    #46
time means:
Why so defensive i only asked a question.

Not really defensive, just think Europeans are given a distorted view of the US at times. No.. I think you're fair on here, Means.


time means:
why on earth should someone want/be allowed to own a military assault rifle at home,

Why?.. lots of times they're collectors. Why does somebody collect cars, knives, old coins? They're interested in them I guess. My friend has some assault rifles. He takes them out in the woods.. has fun. It's not really that despicable, you know. Plus, it's interesting to tear them down and see how they work, etc.
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 Feb 3, 10, 20:21    #47
Harry:
Really? Even the Carefour express have them in Warsaw.

No sign at all of it in Wroclaw or Poznan, except in overpriced speciality shops - and - nicely, available for 7zl a bottle in one pub.
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 Feb 3, 10, 22:12    #48
Not really defensive, just think Europeans are given a distorted view of the US at times.

yep, and it works both ways. the questions I get from Americans about Poland......embarrassing. I keep telling myself, "i couldn't have been THAT ignorant before I came."

It's all in how the rest of the world, or a select country for that matter, is portrayed through magazines, television programs/news programs, culture, kitchen table discussions, etc. If you're a 10 year old kid and you hear enough times how "France sucks, I won't buy their wine anymore," after a while some start to get the same mindset, even if they don't know why.
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 Feb 3, 10, 22:59    #49
FUZZYWICKETS:
and it works both ways. the questions I get from Americans about Poland......embarrassing.

Yes they are ridiculous. Chief among them thinking Poles are inherently stupid when on average their IQ's are some the higher in Europe.
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 Feb 4, 10, 02:26    #50
Ziemowit:
According to what you've said on similarities between America and us, Poland should be soon applying to join as a 51st state of the union.

Excellent idea!
ola243  Feb 4, 10, 02:35    #51
I dislike all the Poles who sold their souls and left Poland in order to follow a false dream to have money, money and more money, I hope it hasn't worked out.
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 Feb 4, 10, 02:39    #52
ola243:
I dislike all the Poles who sold their souls and left Poland in order to follow a false dream to have money, money and more money, I hope it hasn't worked out.

What makes u think its only money?
ola243  Feb 4, 10, 02:42    #53
dtaylor5632:
What makes u think its only money?

What else, fear of not being able to watch rubbish US TV some call this democracy.
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 Feb 4, 10, 02:45    #54
New life, cos the one they have in Poland is ****?
ola243  Feb 4, 10, 02:53    #55
dtaylor5632:
New life, cos the one they have in Poland is ****?

Then why are you living in Poland??? and all the others from other countries who love Poland so much.
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 Feb 4, 10, 02:58    #56
Well im not in Poland at the moment, but I will move back. Not everybody is as lucky as me, or others who live or have lived in Poland and can create a decent life for themselves.
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 Feb 4, 10, 08:05    #57
ola243:
I dislike all the Poles who sold their souls and left Poland in order to follow a false dream to have money, money and more money, I hope it hasn't worked out.

I thinks someone here is jealous.
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Edited by: FUZZYWICKETS  Feb 4, 10, 08:26    #58
ola243 wrote:

I dislike all the Poles who sold their souls and left Poland in order to follow a false dream to have money, money and more money, I hope it hasn't worked out.

yeah, you're right. because things like saaaaaaaayy....communism is a desirable thing. yeah, they should have stayed in Poland and continued to wait on line for hours for a loaf of bread and some vinegar. let freedom ring!

i hear working in mines was real lucrative as well. what were they thinking walking away from a job opportunity like that?

not to mention, are you suggesting that the MILLIONS of Poles that went to America and NEVER CAME BACK stayed there because the dream they thought existed......doesn't exist? it was all a "false dream"?

have you worked/lived in the USA, or are you another person wasting our time on this thread speaking from no experience? lay off the propaganda kool-aid my friend and don't type till you have legs to stand on.
ola243  Feb 4, 10, 08:33    #59
FUZZYWICKETS:
lay off the propaganda kool-aid my friend and don't type till you have legs to stand on.

lol, the truth hurts, unless your Polish you do not understand!
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Edited by: Torq  Feb 4, 10, 09:34    #60
ola243:
I dislike all the Poles who sold their souls and left Poland in order to follow a false dream to have money, money and more money, I hope it hasn't worked out.

I dislike all the fools (Poles or non-Poles) who think that they know anything about
the reasons why young Polish people left our country throughout the years and how
much it cost many of them, and who think that they have right to criticize them.

I dislike all the spineless, lazy onanists, who would rather stay in Poland, live in a block
of flats with their parents and moan constantly than take their fate in their hands and
go abroad in search for better life.


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